Platini in sensible football suggestion shocker!

[Kitchandro]

Sometimes a keeper doesn't even get booked for giving away a penalty. There was one a couple of weeks ago, was it Sunderland?, where a keeper brought down a player, but it was a 50/50 ball, the keeper had to go for it, but there was obviously a huge risk of taking out the striker in doing so. The penalty was awarded by the ref, but very sensibly and decently, no further punishment was given to the keeper, even though other people might have sent him off (and technically the rules of the game would have allowed for this).

 

So I guess my problem would be with refs using a bit of common sense (rare.)

 

Do you mean Chelsea against West Ham?

 

That should have been a yellow. You can't fly into tackles, goalkeeper or not, and not expect to be booked if you don't get them right.

 

It wasn't a red because the Chelsea player wouldn't have got to the ball so it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity.

 

If it's deemed the Chelsea player would have got to the ball, then of course it should be a sending off. You can't have players denying people certain goals by hacking them and getting away with it. That would be a right joke.

[Father Ted]

No way would this ever happen. Too easy to abuse the system. Refs aren't consistent throughout. The difference between rugby and football being that often, penalties in rugby are often conceded with the player knowing what they are doing quite often. In football, it is more a misjudgement, bad timing or natural instinctive reactions. Plus with only 11 men on the field, a couple of quick fire sin bins and you're 11 vs 9! Football would become about how disciplined your team is, not how good they are at football. Shocking idea!

[leicsmac]

Nah. Not sure what's wrong with the yellow card system. What if it's the last 10 minutes? May as well send them off.

 

Yeh it's just same old Platini being a meddling twat IMO.

 

It's ineffective right now IMO, short of potential suspensions for getting too many and having to be a little careful for the rest of the game a yellow card isn't really a punishment. 

 

That said, as others have said there needs to be much more clear definition on what defines a yellow card offence before this could be implemented. 

 

No way would this ever happen. Too easy to abuse the system. Refs aren't consistent throughout. The difference between rugby and football being that often, penalties in rugby are often conceded with the player knowing what they are doing quite often. In football, it is more a misjudgement, bad timing or natural instinctive reactions. Plus with only 11 men on the field, a couple of quick fire sin bins and you're 11 vs 9! Football would become about how disciplined your team is, not how good they are at football. Shocking idea!

 

And? Part of being a good team is being disciplined, surely? And harsher penalties would encourage better football by inhibiting thuggish tactics, perhaps?

 

The above point about clear definition applies here though, too. 

[Les-TA-Jon]

One of the main problems at the minute, is that for Red Cards, the vast majority of offences are of the same severity or magnitude. But there's a massive differential between the least and most severe offences that can result in a yellow. 

 

Maybe we need a 3rd card somehow? One for all the niggly things, like shirts off, over-celebrating, time-wasting, etc. 

[RowlattsFox]

Would only use sin bin for those offences wich should be punished more than a usual yellow but not severe enough for a red.

A last man tackle when it's a genuine attempt to win the ball would be a sin bin for me.

[Ric Flair]

If this were to work then what is deemed a yellow card would need to be changed otherwise you'd end up with about 3 men each in some games. Until referees can be trusted and backed up with top quality linesman and off the field help then this would be a car crash.

 

Rugby Union is a completely different sport and what constitutes a booking happens a lot less than it does in football and that's not just because they're better disciplined, they're a bunch of cnuts as well.

[ScouseFox]

Nah, crap idea.

It works in rugby because they don't get booked very often.

There's quite regularly 2 or 3 cards per team in a football match and more often than not they're disputed because they're shit decisions.

[Strokes]

I bet keepers would pick up less bookings.

[MooseBreath]

I think a lot of the silly stuff that leads to a booking like dissent, taking shirt off, taking quick free kicks and anything that doesn't affect the game at hand should be noted by refs and then dealt with in a thorough post-match review where disciplinary measures are meted out retrospectively if required. That way you take away a lot of the stupid yellows and subsequent ridiculous reds.

The sin bin is an interesting idea but it seems like it would be trying to patch up poor rules by layering them with more rules. Better to fix the broken rules at source imo. Keep things as simple as possible to ensure that results are determined as much as possible by the quality of the football played.

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[darko2k7]

Maybe you could keep the yellow as is but then introduce another colour card ( blue for example )  to signal a sin bin for the more serious would be yellow card offenses . and also still keep it 2 yellows or blues = red    

[Finnaldo]

that's just how I read it!