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10/1/14 - Derby game is a PLATINUM FIXTURE

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Or consistently improved pricing. If we go up we'd average at least 28k next year in my opinion (provided they didn't go totally overboard). In a few years I don't think £40 for Norwich at home is going to sell very well.

If we go up everyone is in for a shock re pricing. Arsenal. Chelsea, pay anything up to £75 to watch 90 minutes of football. Even bloody Peterborough in the first division pay £28 for a match ticket. So, in balance our pricing is about right so I do not know what people are moaning at?

Even if you made it fifteen quid it still would not sell out cos it's on the telly a Friday night and you vanwatch it in the warmth with a pint or two?

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If we go up everyone is in for a shock re pricing. Arsenal. Chelsea, pay anything up to £75 to watch 90 minutes of football. Even bloody Peterborough in the first division pay £28 for a match ticket. So, in balance our pricing is about right so I do not know what people are moaning at?

Even if you made it fifteen quid it still would not sell out cos it's on the telly a Friday night and you vanwatch it in the warmth with a pint or two?

 

If we failed to sell it out at £15 then that's appalling but I think we would.

 

I don't give a shit if they pay £75. I certainly won't ever be paying that for a game of football.

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At least Coventry were up for a rivalry, Forest and Derby just don't care

That's because forest and derby have history more important than ours!!

Brian clough took derby from nobody to champions of England, then left them and ended up taking first from nobody to European champions, they already had a rivalry anyway!

But they have more to shout at each other about than we do, we are just nearby... Coventry is our biggest rival...

I don't really care much for forest or derby personally...

But the fact out club see them as rivals much reflects in the pricing! It's a joke!

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That's because forest and derby have history more important than ours!!

Brian clough took derby from nobody to champions of England, then left them and ended up taking first from nobody to European champions, they already had a rivalry anyway!

But they have more to shout at each other about than we do, we are just nearby... Coventry is our biggest rival...

I don't really care much for forest or derby personally...

But the fact out club see them as rivals much reflects in the pricing! It's a joke!

 

Coventry City is not our biggest rival. Logically it should be, but rivalries don't often form from logic.

 

It's Forest, then Derby, then Coventry, for me. We happen to be the third in line in East Midlands rivalries but big deal, they still both hate us.

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Ungrateful.

 

 

They've just wiped all of our debts, and you criticize them for charging prices which they believe is in the best interest of the club....which is after all a business.

I quite agree with you. Some people have short memories. Selfish geezers.

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Just looked at the prices in sk2 where my lad and i sit £32 for me and £28 for him as an under 22.If we didn't have season tickets there's no way we'd pay those prices wether it's on the box or not! 

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Who cares what the fvck Coventry fans think?

 

Did they ever fill our away end? So much for being up for it. I believe we had a full house against Forest the other month. Never seen that against Cov.

 

First season they filled out. Midweek game wasn't it? They took the lead, made scenes, then we turned it around via Deane and Taggart. Won 2-1.

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Ungrateful.

 

 

They've just wiped all of our debts, and you criticize them for charging prices which they believe is in the best interest of the club....which is after all a business.

 

Football is business, that is correct. The owners got rid of our debt, I'm sure we're all grateful for that, but that doesn't mean they have to charge ridiculous amounts? They need to be attracting (potential) fans. After all, the fans will be here longer than the owners.

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Football is business, that is correct. The owners got rid of our debt, I'm sure we're all grateful for that, but that doesn't mean they have to charge ridiculous amounts? They need to be attracting (potential) fans. After all, the fans will be here longer than the owners.

I guess we'll see if the price was ridiculous or not after the attendance is announced.

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First season they filled out. Midweek game wasn't it? They took the lead, made scenes, then we turned it around via Deane and Taggart. Won 2-1.

Right game and was on sky. They didn't sell out the away end though. Not even close.
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Or consistently improved pricing. If we go up we'd average at least 28k next year in my opinion (provided they didn't go totally overboard). In a few years I don't think £40 for Norwich at home is going to sell very well.

 

Improved pricing will have minimal affect on our attendances! They haven't dropped with increased pricing and when we were doing tickets for a £5 we still only got 28k because we were playing Barnsely! Big Leagues = Big Attendances that is pretty much all.

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Improved pricing will have minimal affect on our attendances! They haven't dropped with increased pricing and when we were doing tickets for a £5 we still only got 28k because we were playing Barnsely! Big Leagues = Big Attendances that is pretty much all.

 

I had a great post about price inelasticity (I am an Economist) but I must have deleted it. I think at the time I was getting pretty bored with this thread!!

 

Being in the Premier league will cause a shift in the demand curve to the right, thus allowing similar or larger crowds even at higher prices.

 

For everyone who doesn't understand what Manwell is talking about please visit http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/inelastic.asp

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This is all very interesting.

 

I'm doing my dissertation on the various factors that affect football attendances etc... It doesn't sound interesting but it's as interesting as I fell I can make my economics degree  lol

 

The demand for live football (ie watching it at the KP) is highly inelastic. That is, a change in price is likely to bring about a tiny change in demand (attendance) but nothing more. This is because there are a lot of other factors affecting attendance - for example local rivalry, whether it's on TV or not, whether the game is midweek or at the weekend and the closeness of the contest between the two teams (ie league position). It's all very long and there are lots of wildly exciting papers (although on other aspects of football you get things like refereeing bias which is intriguing) etc.. etc..

 

But.

 

The main point is when thinking in terms of a business (I think we all forget that's what football clubs essentially are nowadays) raising prices as such has very little effect on consumption of the 'product' (eugh) that the club are selling. This is mainly down to "brand" (eugh) loyalty being so high within football. Rarely, if ever, do people choose to support or regularly watch another team. There's an amusing quote by someone who says "you don't see ASDA customers singing 'loyal customers' as they leave the shop". Thus, lowering prices is of no massive benefit to the club as it is unlikely to highly affect attendance or "brand" (eugh) loyalty.

 

Anyway, it's a shame football has come to this but if one plays devil's advocate it's not exactly just one party to blame for this situation. Sure, SKY and rich owners have increased prices but the nature of fans and the inelasticity of demand has enabled them to do so. If you complain and then go ahead and buy the ticket then I'd say you have no argument as you're clearly willing to pay that much and value the match that much. The only way things will change is if masses boycott matches. Even then I reckon many clubs could play with no crowd - it's a bit sad when things like this are becoming true. TV revenue is far higher for clubs nowadays than attendance revenue

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