EnglishOxide Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 But I attend less than 5 home games per season these days, so what happens then, should I sit down for 2 and a half and stand for the rest, in order to not risk ejection and a football banning order? If someone could actually reasonably define this rule, then fans might actually abide by it, it's not as if 99% of folk standing don't follow most of the other rules, is it? A simple straight definition would save fans and the club a shedload of problems. No it wouldn't. You know full well that the regulation means to sit down. Theres no getting around it so stop trying to be a smart arse. The issue you should have is that the club choose to use it to their advantage at their discretion (letting hundreds get away with it, and singling out people). But you know that this discretion is necessary because full scale maintainance of the persistent standing rule in L1 and M (away) in particular would lead to massive crowd disorder.
Dan Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 My next home game'll be Ipswich, I'll be in SK1, was there for Boxing Day as well, god some of the looks I got were a bit sad. Eh? As a side note, when LCFC are going to implement rules using silly technicalities, then I think fans have a right to judge for themselves what 'moments of excitement' are as it's a matter of opinion.
Bert Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 The club can get away with 1% of the attendance being stood.
AndWhat? Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 The club can get away with 1% of the attendance being stood. Is that official?
AndWhat? Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 Well there's definitely more than 250 standing on a weekly basis. The rules are just made up! If standing is that dangerous why are those 250 allowed to stand?
Dan Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 The rules are so contradictory it's actually hilarious
Bert Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 It could even be the capacity, but even then its still only 325. I just know the words "we can get away with 1% standing" were mentioned.
1964FOX Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 high ranking football officials from the governing bodies go to games every week where thousands are stood and never report the club, they clearly don't care and when asked always say it's down to individual clubs to manage. Clubs however seem blame the governing bodies fearing sanctions that never happen. It is clearly a farce.
Kitchandro Posted 7 January 2014 Posted 7 January 2014 It could even be the capacity, but even then its still only 325. I just know the words "we can get away with 1% standing" were mentioned. They are talking bullshit. Who counts? They can get away with whatever they like, just like all clubs throughout the country.
Dan Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 What grounds are they going to punish clubs on if over 1% are stood? That it's unsafe? This is the kind of double standards that absolutely riles me - if it's a genuine safety concern, then why is it allowed to some extent? It's amateurish to say the least and ridiculous at best. Something big has got to change in 2014.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 I think it is pretty simple and basic. A terrace is for standing, and seats are for sitting on. It doesn't take much intelligence to understand that, does it?
Bert Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 Let me tell you Kitchandaro, this person was not talking bullshit regardless of what you say.
Dan Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 I think it is pretty simple and basic. A terrace is for standing, and seats are for sitting on. It doesn't take much intelligence to understand that, does it? It does not. But when the demand for standing (proven by the fact thousands up and down the country break the rules every week) is quite evident, then the option for both should be available.
Vlad the Fox Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 How about if the case for safe standing is pushed further by a league wide protest. Something like if one Saturday all supporters from all clubs stand after ten minutes of their respective matches for a minute. If this could be organised it would surely push the fight for safe standing further into the media spotlight and advance the cause by drawing a higher profile discussion on the merits of safe standing.
AndWhat? Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 How about if the case for safe standing is pushed further by a league wide protest. Something like if one Saturday all supporters from all clubs stand after ten minutes of their respective matches for a minute. If this could be organised it would surely push the fight for safe standing further into the media spotlight and advance the cause by drawing a higher profile discussion on the merits of safe standing. But I've paid for a seat! I expect to sit in it for every minute of the 90!
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 I think it is pretty simple and basic. A terrace is for standing, and seats are for sitting on. It doesn't take much intelligence to understand that, does it? Yeah I agree with that. With that in mind clubs it's obvious that if people want to stand they need to have a place to do so, otherwise there's always a possibility of there being problems during the game.
Vlad the Fox Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 But I've paid for a seat! I expect to sit in it for every minute of the 90! Ok, first minute of injury time.
Guest Bilo Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 I think it is pretty simple and basic. A terrace is for standing, and seats are for sitting on. It doesn't take much intelligence to understand that, does it? Terraces or standing areas aren't available in the top two divisions. What should fans who prefer to stand do?
lcfc"weasel" Posted 8 January 2014 Posted 8 January 2014 No it wouldn't. You know full well that the regulation means to sit down. Theres no getting around it so stop trying to be a smart arse. The issue you should have is that the club choose to use it to their advantage at their discretion (letting hundreds get away with it, and singling out people). But you know that this discretion is necessary because full scale maintainance of the persistent standing rule in L1 and M (away) in particular would lead to massive crowd disorder. The regulation tells me I must not persistently stand, I'm not trying to be smart about anything, but if the lady signing behavioural agreements on behalf of the club can't define the terms of the agreement then surely this means that the agreement is null and void as no one can agree on what the agreement actually means. The club have there hand forced with regards to letting certain areas stand, that's fair enough, they can't risk the mass revolt. They should however, for people who don't purchase tickets in said areas, be able to tell them what rules they are going to enforce, can I stand for what, 30/45/60/89 minutes? Let's face it there's not anyone within Leicester City who can define this term which they used to, maybe still do, print on each individual match ticket, have at the entrance of each turnstile and place in there good behavioural contract. This is what's absurd, they're making terms which they themselves can not define, if this happened in any other business then they'd be ****ed, but because it's only ever the nasty horrible football fans who complain, no one gives a shit.
1964FOX Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 Can anyone tell me why it's suddenly safe to stand during 'moments of excitement'?
Dan Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 It's magic. Every time Knockaert gets on the ball there's a magic force in the air that allows us all to perform the incredible task of standing up without suffering any broken bones. If he gives it away you've got five seconds to get back in your shield seat otherwise your knees get snapped.
darko2k7 Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 1% at every ground ? so it would be deemed safe and acceptable for 900 fans to stand at Wembley but dangerous and punishable if even half of that stood at the KP ?
Dan Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 1% at every ground ? so it would be deemed safe and acceptable for 900 fans to stand at Wembley but dangerous and punishable if even half of that stood at the KP ? Well obviously. Are you stupid? How could you not be sure when it's such a blatant safety risk!!!!!!!!!!
Corky Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 Why are they allowed 1% for standing? IT'S AN ALL SEATER STADIUM! YOU SIT ON A SEAT! THIS IS NOT A TERRACE!! Hooligans.
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