foxfanazer Posted 25 February 2014 Author Posted 25 February 2014 Christ, the thread was simply asking if any of the players remind you of past players (i.e. in their playing style), it wasn't saying that if they were mentioned it meant the poster thought they were automatically as good as them. I swear some people just want to start arguments on internet forums over nothing. Thanks
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 O'neills team won trophies played in the Prem and Europe so cannot be compared with our current team which is still growing and maturing, I think the original post was about any of our players now that are similar to players from the MON era, I only said Waghorn/ Fenton and Was/ Hill. We certainly don't have any who remind me of Guppy Parker, Pontus or Izzet etc, not yet anyway.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 But are all those players who aren't as good as ours all playing for the same team? I see you skirted my question about whether you said the same about The MON team that won promotion so I will ask it again. DID YOU SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE MON TEAM THAT WON PROMOTION????? It's a simple question
hackneyfox Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 I see you skirted my question about whether you said the same about The MON team that won promotion so I will ask it again. DID YOU SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE MON TEAM THAT WON PROMOTION????? It's a simple question What an AGGRESSIVE INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE. I didn't skirt it, I just didn't bother to answer. It was so many years ago that I can't remember. There wasn't tinternet then so things like this weren't discussed in such depth, probably thought that we'd struggle but I was younger and more positive in those days and certainly had more belief in the manager.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 What an AGGRESSIVE INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE. I didn't skirt it, I just didn't bother to answer. It was so many years ago that I can't remember. There wasn't tinternet then so things like this weren't discussed in such depth, probably thought that we'd struggle but I was younger and more positive in those days and certainly had more belief in the manager. Stop being so negative then, things are looking better than they have since the MON days. Next season will take care of its self IMO we should follow the example set by Hull(If we go up) buy a few quality players but stick with the core of players that have been successful this season Anyway I don't wanna fall out with anyone, we all support the same team after all
hackneyfox Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 Stop being so negative then, things are looking better than they have since the MON days. Next season will take care of its self IMO we should follow the example set by Hull(If we go up) buy a few quality players but stick with the core of players that have been successful this season Anyway I don't wanna fall out with anyone, we all support the same team after all I wouldn't call it negative, to me I'm being realistic but then we all think we're that. For me it all depend on what the owners are willing to spend, after writing off 103 million so easily I can't imagine that they will be tight with funds next season thus me thinking that we may see a fair few new players coming in. It's that scenario that makes me wonder whether they will keep NFP. What a position we find ourselves in, 15 games to go and we can realistically start discussing how many players will still be here next season, not many other fans have ever been able to do that. Cue defeat this Saturday.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 I wouldn't call it negative, to me I'm being realistic but then we all think we're that. For me it all depend on what the owners are willing to spend, after writing off 103 million so easily I can't imagine that they will be tight with funds next season thus me thinking that we may see a fair few new players coming in. It's that scenario that makes me wonder whether they will keep NFP. What a position we find ourselves in, 15 games to go and we can realistically start discussing how many players will still be here next season, not many other fans have ever been able to do that. Cue defeat this Saturday. Yeah we've bound to of jinxed it now
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 I think our current squad is far better than the one that won promotion in 93/94 under Brian Little. Martin O'Neill's team of 95/96 had some quality in it especially the midfield of Lennon izzet and Parker but it was during the close season that the team that went on to be so successful really took shape, there were some very good signings that summer. There are a lot of similarities between us now and the 95/96 team, Martin O'Neill was very shrewd in the transfer market and Nigel Pearson seems the same. I am sure if we go up there will be 3 or 4 quality additions to the squad which was exactly what happened in 95/96. Comparing the 2 teams I would say- Kasper and Poole very similar De Laet is slightly better than Grayson ( I was never a fan of his) Konchesky and Whitlow similar Morgan better than Watts Moore potentially better than Walsh but go for Walsh at the moment Drinkwater not yet up to Lennon standard James not yet up to Parker standard Knocky not as good as Muzzy Dyer or Scott Taylor different positions so not sure Vardy or Claridge this seasons form it would have to be Vardy Nugent not as good as Heskey My team from the 2 teams would be- Schmeichael De Laet. Morgan. Walsh. Moore Taylor. Lennon. Parker. Izzet Vardy. Heskey
dmayne7 Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 None of them remind me of any of our ex players
Guest MattP Posted 25 February 2014 Posted 25 February 2014 I wouldn't call it negative, to me I'm being realistic but then we all think we're that. For me it all depend on what the owners are willing to spend, after writing off 103 million so easily I can't imagine that they will be tight with funds next season thus me thinking that we may see a fair few new players coming in. It's that scenario that makes me wonder whether they will keep NFP. What a position we find ourselves in, 15 games to go and we can realistically start discussing how many players will still be here next season, not many other fans have ever been able to do that. Cue defeat this Saturday. If they genuinely did get rid after this season I'd be fuming to the point where I would find it hard to go next season and I couldn't support the owners anymore. It would be madness. You would think surely they have learnt by now it's not about money and rather about how money is spent, Nigel has picked up a couple of maybe future England players for a pittance and built a side on little that is romping this league, it would be madness to get rid and go for another chequebook manager. I suppose Sven is avaliable again, in fact hang on until after the play offs and I'm sure Arry will be about looking for a new job.
LC/FC Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 I think for me the real comparison isn't the players abilities that compare to the MON era but the attitude and ethos of the team that somehow seem similar to that which we had back then. Everyone pulled for each other and the manager and we played good football but you could sense that from front to back Heskey, Izzet, Guppy, Lennon, Walshy, Elliot and Taggs we had a hard working, never say die attitude that has been lost somewhat in the last decade and a half. I think last years heartache has made them finally understand the never say die attitude that our "Foxes Never Quit" motto means to us. The final goals in the final minutes of playoff finals and cup finals. That consolation goal in Europe. The best comparison I can give is knowing that after so many years I have a team in which I can finally say "Here's my starting 11. Beat that if you can cause they're always up for it!"
deanolegend1989 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Id say Izzet, Lennon, Elliott, Walsh, Heskey and Cottee are all far far better than what we have now currently. I would say I see similaritys in Lennon and James but the difference in this position(defencive controlling the show central midfielder) is that the main difference between a 'top' and a mediocre player is the brain. Lennon read the game brilliantly and proved he was a top player. James has potential technically but we need to see how he copes with smarter midfields around him. Drinky the same but doesnt score enough to call himself on Izzets level. Remember Izzet ran the show in the 02/03 season and as Micky Adams said 'were an average team without Muzzy'..espeically in central midfield where we have 3 CM's much better than anything in that team(mckinley,summerbee etc). Up front, again vardy is fit fast and compared to Cottee rips teams apart. The difference with Cottee is again smartness..Would Vardy score 2 goals at Old Trafford against a CL winning defencive line? its hard to compare...you can look amazing against certain players but then be showed up in reality when proper class is put up against you. As for Wood and Heskey - thats the worse comparison Ive ever seen! . Heskey is an absolutely class player for us..good in the air, strong hold up play, vision, passing ability, link up play, powerful shooting. in fact the all round top centre forward other than he wasnt clinical enough. Wood for me is the exact opposite..a good finisher, pretty clinical tbh however his all round game is poor for me. About our team as a whole, some people thinking our current squad could be better than MON's side! Thats insulting to players that proved to be top class premiership players. However then others say how this squad would get torn a new a** in the prem next year..again thats rubbish I think, especially considering how average the prem is from 10th and below the last few years, I could see us suprising people and being around where Hull are now next year. Wer a good team with potential, not a dominant team who will be miles safe and top 10 4 years running but not Derby 07/08.
Oxfordfox83 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 I think for me the real comparison isn't the players abilities that compare to the MON era but the attitude and ethos of the team that somehow seem similar to that which we had back then. Everyone pulled for each other and the manager and we played good football but you could sense that from front to back Heskey, Izzet, Guppy, Lennon, Walshy, Elliot and Taggs we had a hard working, never say die attitude that has been lost somewhat in the last decade and a half. I think last years heartache has made them finally understand the never say die attitude that our "Foxes Never Quit" motto means to us. The final goals in the final minutes of playoff finals and cup finals. That consolation goal in Europe. The best comparison I can give is knowing that after so many years I have a team in which I can finally say "Here's my starting 11. Beat that if you can cause they're always up for it!" Yes. The fight in the team is great to see, and I think it's started to rub off on the fans. It's difficult to work out whether it's success that brings patience in the majority of fans (ie not those currently whinging about Dyer or Nuge), but I think it's a settled squad which has shown resilience (see QPR, Leeds, Forest). Hopefully that will bring a bit more out of us, and those who have a tendency to boo at half time, jeer mistakes or other associated twà ttery. Our fans under MON were respected the country over, it was a club to be proud of and I still find grudging affection from fans of longstanding Prem clubs. Foxes Never Quit, on the pitch or off...
FoxInTheBox89 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Wood as decent link up play he held the ball up in the build up for his goal. Doest have the pace as Heskey and yeah hes more clinical. Just thought them who are the only who decent big strong strikers I can think weve had. I meen strikers not defenders playing as striker. But yeah to be honest we cant compare our players really to a premiership leicester team as we dont know how this crop would handle it
weller54 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Present player's good enough to make the HUGE step up.... Kasper, DeLaet, Moore, James, Drinkwater, Knocky??, Vardy, Mahrez???,...... That's it!!!!....
indierich06 Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 Present player's good enough to make the HUGE step up.... Kasper, DeLaet, Moore, James, Drinkwater, Knocky??, Vardy, Mahrez???,...... That's it!!!!.... Mahrez? Who's played about an hour of Championship football, if that? Yeah, good call.
Littletoe Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 What I thought would actually be a decent thread. People are now talking about replacing the very players that are pushing us into the premier league. I understand completely we would need to strengthen the squad, but surely all of our players who have contributed to this season are worth atleast a chance! WTF???
weller54 Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 What I thought would actually be a decent thread. People are now talking about replacing the very players that are pushing us into the premier league. I understand completely we would need to strengthen the squad, but surely all of our players who have contributed to this season are worth atleast a chance! WTF???
weller54 Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 Least a chance.. = relegation!!.... Get real!.. And as for Mahrez, he's been bought to be part of our future.. So he will be part of the Premiership team /squad... Unlike many who are either just too old in the tooth or not good enough to make the massive jump!.. That's the truth of the matter!
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 We went up under MON with a decent team and had to make some clever signings to survive in the Prem, before that under Little we only really made 1 big signing (Draper) and came straight back down. I think our team now is better than the team of Little and similar to MON team, so I would expect at least 4 new signings coming in should we go up.
weller54 Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 We went up under MON with a decent team and had to make some clever signings to survive in the Prem, before that under Little we only really made 1 big signing (Draper) and came straight back down. I think our team now is better than the team of Little and similar to MON team, so I would expect at least 4 new signings coming in should we go up.
weller54 Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 Arghh.. Premier league is slightly stronger than the MON days.. Don't you think???
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