Charl91 Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 Rubbish!" He has taken QPR to the Premiership, which is what he is paid to do. Hrdly"awful" The real problem with posters on here, is their dislike of 'Arry and QPR. Tht's the truth of the matter. I don't dislike Harry at all, I even quite liked him at Tottenham. Similarly, I don't particularly dislike QPR anymore than I dislike any other club. The reason he's done a bad job is that his although the club has spent a ridiculous amount of money, they play awful football, do not look like a team in the slightest, were miles of even being close to competing for automatic promotion (which was their aim), and luckily scraped through the play-off final, even though they were the worst team for almost the entire game (and I say this as someone who has no love for Derby). They owe their keeper a hell of a lot (who essentially got them promoted), but not Harry. The problem isn't that I "hate" Harry, it's that some people on here seem to think he can do no wrong, and can't accept that he hasn't done a sterling job. The fact that even QPR fans were discussing whether he should go or not seems to suggest that he hasn't been as great as you think.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I don't dislike Harry at all, I even quite liked him at Tottenham. Similarly, I don't particularly dislike QPR anymore than I dislike any other club. The reason he's done a bad job is that his although the club has spent a ridiculous amount of money, they play awful football, do not look like a team in the slightest, were miles of even being close to competing for automatic promotion (which was their aim), and luckily scraped through the play-off final, even though they were the worst team for almost the entire game (and I say this as someone who has no love for Derby). They owe their keeper a hell of a lot (who essentially got them promoted), but not Harry. The problem isn't that I "hate" Harry, it's that some people on here seem to think he can do no wrong, and can't accept that he hasn't done a sterling job. The fact that even QPR fans were discussing whether he should go or not seems to suggest that he hasn't been as great as you think. This season, their ONLY remit was to go up, by hook or by crook. If QPR fans are upset because they haven't done so by playing 'entertaining football' then more fool them. They have achieved their aim. NOW, they can rebuild. They have money to do so and will spend. To say that Redknapp has done anything other than succeed this season is childish. I accept it was tougher than many said. But there are some good sides in the Championship. No-one was going to let them win games.
indierich06 Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 This season, their ONLY remit was to go up, by hook or by crook. If QPR fans are upset because they haven't done so by playing 'entertaining football' then more fool them. They have achieved their aim. NOW, they can rebuild. They have money to do so and will spend. To say that Redknapp has done anything other than succeed this season is childish. I accept it was tougher than many said. But there are some good sides in the Championship. No-one was going to let them win games. I know plenty of QPR fans who are completely bewildered by the actions of Harry Redknapp - his thoughtless and scatter-gun approach to signings (signs about 50 midfielders and left with no strikers when Austin gets injured), his substitutions and tactics were at times totally bizarre - most of the QPR fans I know feel that they have succeeded in spite of Harry Redknapp, not because of him, and I'm inclined to agree. You only had to look at him on the touchline during that playoff final. He didn't have a clue how to change that game and he admitted himself that he couldn't see them getting anything out of the game. That talent in that squad at the start of the season was unreal - and fair play to Redknapp for assembling it - they had a great mix of experience and youth, a squad full of players who could arguably still make the first teams of lower PL sides. It was like when Newcastle came down a few years ago and romped this league because their squad was, quite simply, different class. I personally think QPRs was better than that Newcastle side, but they struggled to make any kind of inroads all season. On paper, it's perfectly clear that Redknapp succeeded in his job this season - he got them back up. Would I be impressed at the job he did if I was a QPR fan? Absolutely not. Would I be relishing the thought of Redknapp leading my team in the PL? Again, probably not.
Charl91 Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 This season, their ONLY remit was to go up, by hook or by crook. If QPR fans are upset because they haven't done so by playing 'entertaining football' then more fool them. They have achieved their aim. NOW, they can rebuild. They have money to do so and will spend. To say that Redknapp has done anything other than succeed this season is childish. I accept it was tougher than many said. But there are some good sides in the Championship. No-one was going to let them win games. No - what is childish is to call anyone who's opinion doesn't agree with yours "childish". It would be terribly poor of any manager to not go up with that squad, let alone Redknapp. What he should have been doing is starting the rebuilding process BEFORE they went up. They still look like a team of players who are playing with each other for the first time. He achieved the minimum of aims, which was to get promotion, and he did that with a lot of luck and by the skin of his teeth. I would be very worried if I was a QPR fan - getting promoted does not mean you are equipped to survive in the premiership. Being 20 points of the leaders in the championship is not a good sign. I have my doubts about whether we'll survive, and we're a much better side than QPR are. Getting promoted doesn't mean you've done a good job. See Holloway with palace last season. Edit: Actually, Indierich06 put it a lot better than I did ^
Corky Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 This season, their ONLY remit was to go up, by hook or by crook. If QPR fans are upset because they haven't done so by playing 'entertaining football' then more fool them. They have achieved their aim. NOW, they can rebuild. They have money to do so and will spend. To say that Redknapp has done anything other than succeed this season is childish. I accept it was tougher than many said. But there are some good sides in the Championship. No-one was going to let them win games. There is a difference to achieving something and actually being impressed by it. If Redknapp had done a similar job to Newcastle and gone up playing flowing football, scoring plenty of goals then I'm sure he'd be getting plenty of praise, and rightly so. I, and many others, expected more from a talented squad and a manager who we are told plays fantastic football. 60 goals in 46 games doesn't inspire, I'm afraid. Yes, Redknapp achieved promotion, and that is what was required. But it was hardly a glorious season, they picked up 54 points from 36 games from October. They delivered when it really mattered, and that was impressive, especially in the semi-final. If he keeps them up next year I'll give him a lot of credit, before you start saying we're all totally biased against him.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 No - what is childish is to call anyone who's opinion doesn't agree with yours "childish". It would be terribly poor of any manager to not go up with that squad, let alone Redknapp. What he should have been doing is starting the rebuilding process BEFORE they went up. They still look like a team of players who are playing with each other for the first time. He achieved the minimum of aims, which was to get promotion, and he did that with a lot of luck and by the skin of his teeth. I would be very worried if I was a QPR fan - getting promoted does not mean you are equipped to survive in the premiership. Being 20 points of the leaders in the championship is not a good sign. I have my doubts about whether we'll survive, and we're a much better side than QPR are. Getting promoted doesn't mean you've done a good job. See Holloway with palace last season. Edit: Actually, Indierich06 put it a lot better than I did ^ I'm sorry but you ARE being ridiculous.We all know how the Championship is. It's rough and tough. Teams will stop you playing, particularly if they see you as a 'big team'. In the same way as many have said on here, myself included, that City had no 'God given right' to get promoted, well neither did QPR. Do you not get the paradox? The same people that are shouting from the rooftops about QPR's 'journeymen', 'big-time charlies' and 'expensively assembled' are the same people who are then saying 'QPR should have walked the division.' Well either these players ARE disinterested, disruptive and not bothered, or they aren't? There is a strong argument that Redknapp has actually done very well to gain promotion with such a bunch of 'misfits'. Somehow he's got this so called bunch of 'mercenaries' (it would seem, in the eyes of many) straight back up. Of course, you wont want to explore that possibility because, in your eyes, promotion for QPR should have been nailed-on. I like to think a bit deeper and consider just what a shitty job Redknapp has probably had in getting that lot back up. Hell, he's even kept Joey Barton in relative check! Think more broadly... Now we can see whether QPR will finish lower than us in the Prem. I personally have no idea. This leads me to conclude that, in the eyes of many on here) Arry quite literally could not win. Unless he'd got his misfits to have completely romped the league. Even that would have been seen as no less than was expected. We had something to say about that though didnt we.. oh and so did Burnley.
Guest MattP Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I think the fact (reading that QPR fans site) most of them still want the guy to be sacked says it all about what he has served up this season. They literally have to build a whole new team apart from Austin. Be good to see if 'Arry keeps his word regarding finances now and tries to build on the cheap. Think we all know he'll spend no more than five minutes in the office before trying to chuck 100k a week on Cole and Ferdinand.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I think the fact (reading that QPR fans site) most of them still want the guy to be sacked says it all about what he has served up this season. They literally have to build a whole new team apart from Austin. Be good to see if 'Arry keeps his word regarding finances now and tries to build on the cheap. Think we all know he'll spend no more than five minutes in the office before trying to chuck 100k a week on Cole and Ferdinand. I'm pretty sure he'll go for Ferdinand. I wouldn't chuck 10 grand a week at Cole, let alone 100.
foxfanazer Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I'm pretty sure he'll go for Ferdinand. I wouldn't chuck 10 grand a week at Cole, let alone 100. Ashley or Joe?!
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 Ashley or Joe?!Joe! Ashley Cole is still an exceptional player.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 Phew I thought you'd lost it Many believe I have done mate!
Guest MattP Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I'm pretty sure he'll go for Ferdinand. I wouldn't chuck 10 grand a week at Cole, let alone 100. I think 'Arry will be in for them all, I don't think he's got the interest to go scouting again, he hasn't for years so i did him starting again now, it will be old ex players, expensive signings from the championship or phone calls to Spurs and West Ham again. It's a huge job looking at it though, he literally has to build a whole team looking at the squad. They still should stay up though.
One Legged Beaver Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 Yeah we still have to go there and see off their marshmallow man. Niko Kranjcar was only there on loan I believe.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I'm sure you are happier about him getting promoted than us. Now you're being silly! Sour grapes eh?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 I don't dislike Harry at all, I even quite liked him at Tottenham. Similarly, I don't particularly dislike QPR anymore than I dislike any other club. The reason he's done a bad job is that his although the club has spent a ridiculous amount of money, they play awful football, do not look like a team in the slightest, were miles of even being close to competing for automatic promotion (which was their aim), and luckily scraped through the play-off final, even though they were the worst team for almost the entire game (and I say this as someone who has no love for Derby). They owe their keeper a hell of a lot (who essentially got them promoted), but not Harry. The problem isn't that I "hate" Harry, it's that some people on here seem to think he can do no wrong, and can't accept that he hasn't done a sterling job. The fact that even QPR fans were discussing whether he should go or not seems to suggest that he hasn't been as great as you think. I can understand what you are saying, but the fact remains that he got them promotion, which is what he was paid to do. We start next season on equal terms, but let's hope they will end up below us.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 May 2014 Posted 28 May 2014 There is a difference to achieving something and actually being impressed by it. If Redknapp had done a similar job to Newcastle and gone up playing flowing football, scoring plenty of goals then I'm sure he'd be getting plenty of praise, and rightly so. I, and many others, expected more from a talented squad and a manager who we are told plays fantastic football. 60 goals in 46 games doesn't inspire, I'm afraid. Yes, Redknapp achieved promotion, and that is what was required. But it was hardly a glorious season, they picked up 54 points from 36 games from October. They delivered when it really mattered, and that was impressive, especially in the semi-final. If he keeps them up next year I'll give him a lot of credit, before you start saying we're all totally biased against him. A leaky old bucket, that post, geezer.
Socks Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 QPR are just the opitimy of everything thats wrong about the modern game They were mainly shite all season apart from a few games. As soon as they start dropping points they bought more players Redknapp and Barton are a couple of arseholes I hate to see in the game I'm still fuming they pinched it, they dont deserve to go up. Cheating bastards Even O'Neil admitted afterwards that he blatantly cheated
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 QPR are just the opitimy of everything thats wrong about the modern game They were mainly shite all season apart from a few games. As soon as they start dropping points they bought more players Redknapp and Barton are a couple of arseholes I hate to see in the game I'm still fuming they pinched it, they dont deserve to go up. Cheating bastards Even O'Neil admitted afterwards that he blatantly cheated Bit like us under Sven. Did you think the same? Or were you clamouring for promotion whilst we were paying Yakubu an alleged 50k per week?Bit of a journeyman the Yak.. Or Fat Johnno 25 k? Or Gallagher 15k? #thelevelofhypocrisyonhereremainsastounding
Dan Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Has it never occurred to you that a lot of people's cynicism towards clubs like QPR comes from the fact we've seen a very similar style fail right in front of our own eyes?
MC Prussian Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Bit like us under Sven. Did you think the same? Or were you clamouring for promotion whilst we were paying Yakubu an alleged 50k per week? Bit of a journeyman the Yak.. Or Fat Johnno 25 k? Or Gallagher 15k? #thelevelofhypocrisyonhereremainsastounding Did you ever think of all the Leicester fans who actually got sober after the Eriksson Endeavour and who took all the criticism to heart and managed to see beyond the public image of the times? Can you also imagine the Sven era as being our very own base to start from scratch again, healthier and better than ever? Maybe it wasn't all so bad, after all. Btw, do you have QPR in your blood or where does that vehement defense of 'Arry and is troupe stem from?
Corky Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Bit like us under Sven. Did you think the same? Or were you clamouring for promotion whilst we were paying Yakubu an alleged 50k per week? Bit of a journeyman the Yak.. Or Fat Johnno 25 k? Or Gallagher 15k? #thelevelofhypocrisyonhereremainsastounding I wanted us to get promotion, yes, but was still uncomfortable with the money being thrown about. Even our fans knew we were trying to "buy the league", we weren't oblivious to what was going on. The QPR fans wanted promotion, it doesn't mean they are entirely happy with the way the club is being run or the team is playing. Yeah, Yakubu was a bit of a journeyman, still scored 11 in 20 games though. We made some crap signings, thankfully we learned our lesson and are now being sensible with signings, fees paid and wages offered. There you go Col, WE LEARNED OUR LESSON. We changed, we're doing things differently now. Maybe QPR will do the same, I don't know. For their supporters sake, I hope they do, good club with good fans.
Dan Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Leicester were at it for a year and we've since done a hell of a lot to reverse that year, QPR have been at it for years now (with a spell under Warnock when they weren't so bad for it) and the fact they've scabbed promotion (and it is the scabbiest promotion you will ever, ever see, I am adamant) will lead to them doing absolutely nothing to buck the trend. They won't change anything and hopefully their luck runs out one day. Accuse me of not liking QPR? Correct. I can't stand them. They're a joke.
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