qwerty123 Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Afternoon I'm sure I heard on RL last night that Danny Drinkwater has made over 1000 more passes than any other player in the Championship. To me this seems unbelievably - Also it was said Drinkwater had made more tackles that Wes Morgan. I think they said he'd made 90 tackles and Wes had made 70ish? Does anyone have anywhere we could confirm these sort of stats? Would Mike McCarthy who works for RL be able to help? Does he use this forum? Thanks
jammie82uk Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 He said Danny had made 600 more passes then anybody else in the league before last nights game and 90 tackles compared to Wes who had done 77
artursteppe Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Afternoon I'm sure I heard on RL last night that Danny Drinkwater has made over 1000 more passes than any other player in the Championship. To me this seems unbelievably - Also it was said Drinkwater had made more tackles that Wes Morgan. I think they said he'd made 90 tackles and Wes had made 70ish? Does anyone have anywhere we could confirm these sort of stats? Would Mike McCarthy who works for RL be able to help? Does he use this forum? Thanks Can't see the 'passes' bit as believable, but the tackling could be. Surprisingly few tackles actually made by players, can usually be counted on one hand per game. Most midfield players will make about 80 passes in a match, so for Drinky to have made 3500 to 4000 passes so far this season and be 1000 in front of anyone else, doesn't seem to make sense to me.
qwerty123 Posted 23 April 2014 Author Posted 23 April 2014 He said Danny had made 600 more passes then anybody else in the league before last nights game and 90 tackles compared to Wes who had done 77 Thanks Where do they gets the stats from? It would be interesting to see how he compares to other players
artursteppe Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 600 passes seems just about believable - 13/14 more than anyone else per game would be incredible, but then Drinky is the best in the Championship!
ScouseFox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 on a slightly related note i want to know if matty james has ever been tackled? like ever?
RowlattsFox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Drinkwater gets about 20 passes a game though the short one-twos whilst he waits for something to open up.
Dan Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 That is absolutely crazy though I'd like to see how many passes exactly he's made in total. That's Barcelona-esque stats.
dbtcity Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 I'd like to no how many clearances he's made from set pieces, always seems to be him on the edge of the 6 yard box that gets rid
jammie82uk Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Thanks Where do they gets the stats from? It would be interesting to see how he compares to other players He said The stats come from Opta
fleckneymike Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 You can find stats here http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/7/Seasons/3859/Stages/7800/PlayerStatistics/England-Championship-2013-2014
C-man Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 There's at least once or twice a game where he plays 3/4 passes to and from either a full-back, Knockaert or Mahrez just for the stat-work. Fair fvcking play, I would.
ScouseFox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Loved him and Mahrez playing about 3 or 4 one-twos just to take the piss when we were "ole"ing last night.
One Legged Beaver Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 You can find stats here http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/7/Seasons/3859/Stages/7800/PlayerStatistics/England-Championship-2013-2014 Looking at other stats on their, we're the team that receives the least fouls. Fair play to all the lads because most teams come to kick us off the park half the time yet most of them just stay on their feet and try and play on.
Captain... Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Looking at those stats Drinkwater's passing is a little misleading, whilst he may have made a lot more passes than some, he has played a lot more games, Barton has a marginally lower average passes per game, but has played a lot less games over all so it is a slight massaging of figures, not to say that DD hasn't been excellent this season, but lets not blow fake smoke up his arse. The only stat that really counts is this one: 96 points.
Vlad the Fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 How many one on one's has Kasper saved? No one seems to get passed him.
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Looking at those stats Drinkwater's passing is a little misleading, whilst he may have made a lot more passes than some, he has played a lot more games, Barton has a marginally lower average passes per game, but has played a lot less games over all so it is a slight massaging of figures, not to say that DD hasn't been excellent this season, but lets not blow fake smoke up his arse. The only stat that really counts is this one: 96 points. Why would that make a difference? If you've played 50 games or 5 games and you average, say, 50 passes in either of those groups of games, what difference does the number of games make? As the number of passes goes up or down, so does the number of games by which it is divided to get the average. It would make a difference to the total, though, so the 600 figure might be misleading compared to Barton, but the average stat takes away that problem.
Captain... Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Why would that make a difference? If you've played 50 games or 5 games and you average, say, 50 passes in either of those groups of games, what difference does the number of games make? As the number of passes goes up or down, so does the number of games by which it is divided to get the average. It would make a difference to the total, though, so the 600 figure might be misleading compared to Barton, but the average stat takes away that problem. That is what I am saying, the average stat puts drinkwater just ahead of Barton, the total passes puts him miles ahead. So we should be looking at the average stat and not trying to manipulate the stats to make him look better. One person said that it is 13/14 passes more per match than any other player, but that is not true he plays 0.3 per match more than Barton. His pass success rate puts him 34th, behind James, King, Lloyd and Knocky. Key passes, he is in 45th behind Knocky, James, Nugent and Lloyd This is not a criticism of DD, just saying that no stat tells the whole story and making 600 passes more than anyone else in the league isn't that great if they don't always find their man, and don't create many chances.
fleckneymike Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 That is what I am saying, the average stat puts drinkwater just ahead of Barton, the total passes puts him miles ahead. So we should be looking at the average stat and not trying to manipulate the stats to make him look better. One person said that it is 13/14 passes more per match than any other player, but that is not true he plays 0.3 per match more than Barton. His pass success rate puts him 34th, behind James, King, Lloyd and Knocky. Key passes, he is in 45th behind Knocky, James, Nugent and Lloyd This is not a criticism of DD, just saying that no stat tells the whole story and making 600 passes more than anyone else in the league isn't that great if they don't always find their man, and don't create many chances. Err that's where you look at pass completion stats. I think you'll find he's quite good at that too.
jammie82uk Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 That is what I am saying, the average stat puts drinkwater just ahead of Barton, the total passes puts him miles ahead. So we should be looking at the average stat and not trying to manipulate the stats to make him look better. One person said that it is 13/14 passes more per match than any other player, but that is not true he plays 0.3 per match more than Barton. His pass success rate puts him 34th, behind James, King, Lloyd and Knocky. Key passes, he is in 45th behind Knocky, James, Nugent and Lloyd This is not a criticism of DD, just saying that no stat tells the whole story and making 600 passes more than anyone else in the league isn't that great if they don't always find their man, and don't create many chances. Well ain't you a cheerful soul
itsaknockeart Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Attempted passes (from whoscored, who use Opta): Drinkwater 2843 Forsyth (Derby) 2235 Clayton (Huddersfield) 2183 Greer (Brighton) 2140 Spearing (Bolton) 2115 includes last night's games
davieG Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 It depends a lot on how good the players receiving the pass are and how used to playing with the passer. Knocky & Mahrez seem to be a level above most in terms of controlling a pass even more so one that is slightly wayward.
Captain... Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Well ain't you a cheerful soul My disposition has nothing to do with it just actually looking at the stats rather than wanking over the fact that we have a player at the top of a probably the most meaningless stat. Attempted passes really means nothing, successful passes, key passes and assists are a lot more meaningful. I am a big fan of DD and despite others being ahead of him in the key stats still think he is probably up there with Vardy, another man whose stats don't really indicate his influence, as our player of the season Err that's where you look at pass completion stats. I think you'll find he's quite good at that too. 34th in the Champ and 5th at the club, quite good, but nobody is starting a thread about that.
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