Guest MattP Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 If we have a double election, who will most benefit? I'm tempted to think the Tories as they have the deeper pockets. Whoever isn't in the minority government before it.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The Greens have dropped their £72 basic income idea and legalising being a member of a terrorist organisation. Well for 2015 at least
Guest MattP Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Didn't take long. I don't think they are losing this dangerous lunatics tag for a while though. People have long memories.
Voll Blau Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The Lib Dems are basically relying on their incumbent MPs to have done enough as representatives of their constituency to retain their seats. I can't see a single floating voter backing them.
Webbo Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The Lib Dems are basically relying on their incumbent MPs to have done enough as representatives of their constituency to retain their seats. I can't see a single floating voter backing them. If you're a labour voter where the Libs have the best chance of stopping the tories you'll still vote Lib. I can't see that changing.
Guest MattP Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The Lib Dems are basically relying on their incumbent MPs to have done enough as representatives of their constituency to retain their seats. I can't see a single floating voter backing them. They'll still do a bit better than expected. They have an excellent ground game and are usually held in high regard locally. They held a by election against all odds in Eastleigh and voters aren't flocking other parties instead of them.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Didn't take long. I don't think they are losing this dangerous lunatics tag for a while though. People have long memories. It's scary how well they polled in that YouGov poll that asked voting intention if you knew a party had a chance of winning. 26% said they were likely ro vote Greens if that was the case. That was before Christmas but it's a frightening thought that there are actually so many closet Greens. Hopefully now realise their lunacy
leicsmac Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Interesting how when UKIP get pilloried for a single policy, it's all "but you should look at their other stuff too", but when the Greens put forward a (admittedly lunatic) policy of their own, that's all anyone focuses on.
leicsmac Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 They'll still do a bit better than expected. They have an excellent ground game and are usually held in high regard locally. They held a by election against all odds in Eastleigh and voters aren't flocking other parties instead of them. It is going to be interesting how many seats they do hold onto, and it'll have a pretty key bearing on the overall election outcome, I think.
Guest MattP Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Interesting how when UKIP get pilloried for a single policy, it's all "but you should look at their other stuff too", but when the Greens put forward a (admittedly lunatic) policy of their own, that's all anyone focuses on. The Greens aren't being pillored because it's a single policy, they are being pillored because of how dangerous it is. They actually wanted to legalise membership of ISIS. Just actually think about that. Nothing Ukip has ever done comes close to being as vile as that.
leicsmac Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 The Greens aren't being pillored because it's a single policy, they are being pillored because of how dangerous it is. They actually wanted to legalise membership of ISIS. Just actually think about that. Nothing Ukip has ever done comes close to being as vile as that. No disagreement, but it is still only one policy - which they have now rightly withdrawn because it is suicidally stupid. Just don't like the double standard. In any case, their pursuance of crackpot homeopathic crap at the expense of actual legitimate science (nuclear fusion, space exploration) means I wouldn't vote for them on that alone.
ADK Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 The thing with the Greens is they were a party that people were voting for based on policy. UKIP is more the Nigel Farage cult of personality party than anything else. It's a one man band. Maybe it just shows that the left is not quite so daft as the right?
Jon the Hat Posted 4 February 2015 Author Posted 4 February 2015 No disagreement, but it is still only one policy - which they have now rightly withdrawn because it is suicidally stupid. Just don't like the double standard. In any case, their pursuance of crackpot homeopathic crap at the expense of actual legitimate science (nuclear fusion, space exploration) means I wouldn't vote for them on that alone. Its almost like voters want their political parties to have a brain in the first place, not drop things when the sensible people point out their stupidity. Crazy stuff.
Guest MattP Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 No disagreement, but it is still only one policy - which they have now rightly withdrawn because it is suicidally stupid. Just don't like the double standard. In any case, their pursuance of crackpot homeopathic crap at the expense of actual legitimate science (nuclear fusion, space exploration) means I wouldn't vote for them on that alone. The main problem is she passionately defended this policy - it's only been dropped because of public outrage towards it.
leicsmac Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Its almost like voters want their political parties to have a brain in the first place, not drop things when the sensible people point out their stupidity. Crazy stuff. Populism has a lot to answer for, I agree. The main problem is she passionately defended this policy - it's only been dropped because of public outrage towards it. Doubly stupid, then.
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 They're all so bland these days. Some North Korean style rhetoric wouldn't go amiss. Would love to see Harman's face if someone called her "a crazy prostitute" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/27/north-korea-attacks-south-president-park-geun-hye-obama
Strokes Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 The thing with the Greens is they were a party that people were voting for based on policy. UKIP is more the Nigel Farage cult of personality party than anything else. It's a one man band. Maybe it just shows that the left is not quite so daft as the right?What? So are you the exception to the rule then?
Guest MattP Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 I just thought that was a wind up by ADK. I think it's pretty clear UKIP are receiving votes on the back of a tough stance on the EU and immigration. I'd be interested to know what specific policy Green voters are voting on. Disband the army? Let's defeat ISIS with hugs? Ban teeth?
Webbo Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 I just thought that was a wind up by ADK. I think that's usually the case.
MooseBreath Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Not surprised that the greens have backed away from the active promotion of home grown terrorism, but I'm shocked they've withdrawn citizen's income. Sheer lunacy though it was, as their flagship economic policy I would have thought they would've had a bit more faith in it. Doesn't say much for the robustness of the rest of their policies. I didn't think they could get much more whacky but u-turning all over the place under the slightest pressure hints at some serious instability and chaos behind the scenes, a total mess. The whole party could do with being sectioned by the looks of it.
Strokes Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Not surprised that the greens have backed away from the active promotion of home grown terrorism, but I'm shocked they've withdrawn citizen's income. Sheer lunacy though it was, as their flagship economic policy I would have thought they would've had a bit more faith in it. Doesn't say much for the robustness of the rest of their policies. I didn't think they could get much more whacky but u-turning all over the place under the slightest pressure hints at some serious instability and chaos behind the scenes, a total mess. The whole party could do with being sectioned by the looks of it. Not good for the Tories though moose, the voters will flock too ed Well maybe not flock as there weren't that many in the first place but could be significant.
SMX11 Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 I see the BBC have decided to favour women quota over political balance in tonights qt. Ukip representative sick, they offered male alternative. Told they want a women. Jesus wept.
Guest MattP Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 Not surprised that the greens have backed away from the active promotion of home grown terrorism, but I'm shocked they've withdrawn citizen's income. Sheer lunacy though it was, as their flagship economic policy I would have thought they would've had a bit more faith in it. Doesn't say much for the robustness of the rest of their policies. I didn't think they could get much more whacky but u-turning all over the place under the slightest pressure hints at some serious instability and chaos behind the scenes, a total mess. The whole party could do with being sectioned by the looks of it. They have been absolutely found wanting on the back of one ten minute Andrew Neil interview, no wonder Brighton Pavillion is in absolute chaos, it will be interesting to see if they've managed to import enough metrosexual hippies from London to the area to keep that seat in May. Not good for the Tories though moose, the voters will flock too ed Well maybe not flock as there weren't that many in the first place but could be significant. It's a tough call, you don't want Ed picking up votes but for the sake of the country the Green party can't be allowed anywhere near power, we can't turn a blind eye to such dangerous parties. I see the BBC have decided to favour women quota over political balance in tonights qt. Ukip representative sick, they offered male alternative. Told they want a women. Big protest planned outside tonight by the Jewish community against the appearance of an anti-semitic racist being allowed to appear on the show. Not Nick Griffin btw, George Galloway.
Darkon84 Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 Big protest planned outside tonight by the Jewish community against the appearance of an anti-semitic racist being allowed to appear on the show. Not Nick Griffin btw, George Galloway. How this cretin still manages to get airtime is beyond belief.
Guest MattP Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 How this cretin still manages to get airtime is beyond belief. He's am elected respresentative so I have no problem with him being invited to Question Time. I'm astonished how he's managed to get away without being prosecuted though for some of things he's been caught saying on camera, the recent Bradford is a Jew free zone surely wouldn't have been tolerated had it been a BNP politician talking about Muslims. I can't help but like him though, he's brilliant to listen to in the same way the Salmond's, Farage's, Murray's and Starkey's from all sides of the political spectrum are are brilliant to listen to, you also get the feeling they are actually telling you what they think unlike 95% of others.
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