Rincewind Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 There is still a true Liberal party. Think its LiberalUK. They disassociate themselves from the LibDems.
Brizzle Fox Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 Jacob Rees Mogg is a fine MP Ken, a real rebel who often votes against his own party if he does agree with what they do. Man of principle and Eurosceptic, we need far more people like him in parliament. Just because he's posh, has a nanny and speaks in received pronunciation doesn't make him a bad person. And why shouldn't the Lords have champagne? They sell it for a profit and that helps pay for the catering, surely that's better than charging the taxpayer even more? Slightly eccentric but one of the few truly independent thinkers currently in parliament. ....I do love a bit of lazy reverse snobbery from leftists. Tut tut
Guest MattP Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 Slightly eccentric but one of the few truly independent thinkers currently in parliament. ....I do love a bit of lazy reverse snobbery from leftists. Tut tut It's shame so many people are prepared to judge him just by the way he talks. He's one of my favourite speakers in the house, always erudite, articulate and has a knowledge base that never ceases to amaze. I'd have him in the cabinet like a shot but unfortunately we live in an day and age where someone like him couldn't be pushed into public life to any sort of mass extent.
Jon the Hat Posted 28 January 2015 Author Posted 28 January 2015 That would depend greatly on your definition of the poverty line Ken, and hardly anyone would agree with the one she is using. 13 Million people my arse.
Buce Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 That would depend greatly on your definition of the poverty line Ken, and hardly anyone would agree with the one she is using. 13 Million people my arse. What's your definition?
Guest MattP Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 It's like Poverty Lottery these days. The Lib Dems step up to tell it's about 500,000 in poverty, Labour usually doubles that, then we get to the Greens and it's 3million and then across to the real nutters at the Stop the War coalitio/Respect/Socialist Worker etc and it's 13 million Makes UKIP's immigration predictions look carefully considered.
Guest MattP Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 Tories now ahead of Labour (only by 1%) in the last four national polls.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election
l444ry Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 However, Junior Health Minister Alex White, who is also running for the leadership, said he "abhors" Sinn Fein's policies but would not rule out a coalition with the party as an "article of faith". This comment is from a Irish Leadership election against Joan Burton 7 months ago and nothing to do with the recent talks between Miliband and McGuiness, which were apparently about the peace talks. Incidentally Alex White was thrashed 78% to 22% but don't let that get in the way of an ill-informed rant.
The Railway Man Posted 29 January 2015 Posted 29 January 2015 This comment is from a Irish Leadership election against Joan Burton 7 months ago and nothing to do with the recent talks between Miliband and McGuiness, which were apparently about the peace talks. Incidentally Alex White was thrashed 78% to 22% but don't let that get in the way of an ill-informed rant. Why on God's green earth would a opposition leader about to be humilated into not being able to defeat a Tory government widely despised by it's opposition and even it's own hardcord support be enterting into 'peace talks' that has not now and will never have anything to do with him?
l444ry Posted 29 January 2015 Posted 29 January 2015 Why on God's green earth would a opposition leader about to be humilated into not being able to defeat a Tory government widely despised by it's opposition and even it's own hardcord support be enterting into 'peace talks' that has not now and will never have anything to do with him? Hard to answer an opinion dressed up as a question but maybe this link explains. Who knows.....? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-30932356
davieG Posted 29 January 2015 Posted 29 January 2015 Another hung parliament? Four scenarios that could follow http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30902524
leicsmac Posted 29 January 2015 Posted 29 January 2015 Interesting stuff. I think if there is a hung parliament and a minority coalition as a result, it won't hold. Even forming that coalition might take a while.
Jon the Hat Posted 29 January 2015 Author Posted 29 January 2015 I agree - neither Milliband nor Cameron will survive a minority Government for long, and we will see a second election this year.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Cameron claims to be a Christian. Sorry but I do not think he is a good example and I am glad I am a secularist. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-constituency-office-calls-police-on-food-bank-campaigners-bishop-of-oxford-and-reverend-keith-hebden-9274303.html Is he indicating by refusing to read the letter that the church leaders of the faith he supports are wrong and lying? Or could it be he only wants the publicity when it looks good for him?
Jon the Hat Posted 2 February 2015 Author Posted 2 February 2015 Cameron claims to be a Christian. Sorry but I do not think he is a good example and I am glad I am a secularist. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-constituency-office-calls-police-on-food-bank-campaigners-bishop-of-oxford-and-reverend-keith-hebden-9274303.html Is he indicating by refusing to read the letter that the church leaders of the faith he supports are wrong and lying? Or could it be he only wants the publicity when it looks good for him? Are you drunk Ken? This is from April last year. Perhaps he was suggesting that leaders of the Church are political. You are also confusing "Christian" with "Buys into all the church of England crap" Never mind.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 He seems to buy into the Church of England crap when it suits his viewpoint and helps him politically.
Jon the Hat Posted 2 February 2015 Author Posted 2 February 2015 He seems to buy into the Church of England crap when it suits his viewpoint and helps him politically. No shit. If others who buy into it are stupid enough to think that is a good thing then more fool them.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 The letter they were trying to deliver was for all parties and Cameron has been on record as saying that he believes in Christian values and carrying on where Jesus left off. Well according to the bible Jesus fed the hungry and cared for those less well off. Does it not smell of double standards to you ignoring the fact that he is a Tory and looking at him just as an ordinary bloke?
Strokes Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 The letter they were trying to deliver was for all parties and Cameron has been on record as saying that he believes in Christian values and carrying on where Jesus left off. Well according to the bible Jesus fed the hungry and cared for those less well off. Does it not smell of double standards to you ignoring the fact that he is a Tory and looking at him just as an ordinary bloke? Its not like you to be elitist. The argument can go round in circles ken, giving people things doesn't always help them, sometimes you have to nudge them into getting/earning it for themselves. To build a self sustaining society you have to teach people how to feed themselves, is it that hard to understand?
Rincewind Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 No. I agree but stripping resources to the minimum gives little scope to improve.
MooseBreath Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 No. I agree but stripping resources to the minimum gives little scope to improve. And you know this from your vast experience of managing budgets and performance within public sector departments?
Guest MattP Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Labour back a couple of points in the lead in the polls over last few days. The Bennett interview going viral appears to have affected the Greens, back down to 5-6%. Ukip appear to have dropped a point or 2 as well. More and more I think we're heading for a minority government. The Labour SNP coalition looks just too risky long term for Labour and the Lib Dems could be struggling to hold the balance of power.
leicsmac Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Labour back a couple of points in the lead in the polls over last few days. The Bennett interview going viral appears to have affected the Greens, back down to 5-6%. Ukip appear to have dropped a point or 2 as well. More and more I think we're heading for a minority government. The Labour SNP coalition looks just too risky long term for Labour and the Lib Dems could be struggling to hold the balance of power. Quite possible, though if this happens there will be two elections in 2015 practically guaranteed.
ADK Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 If we have a double election, who will most benefit? I'm tempted to think the Tories as they have the deeper pockets.
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