Guest Kopfkino Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Holy shit, a question time audience not full of loons for once! Even debating mixed funding NHS without hissing. Diane Abbott made up for that though
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Basic problems is there isn't a decent party out there They are all corrupt They are all in it for themselves They are all liars
Voll Blau Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Basic problems is there isn't a decent party out there They are all corrupt They are all in it for themselves They are all liars Generalisations are brilliant aren't they.
SMX11 Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Diane Abbott made up for that though Haha. Yes she certainly defaulted to a typical labour MP.
Jon the Hat Posted 23 January 2015 Author Posted 23 January 2015 Basic problems is there isn't a decent party out there They are all corrupt They are all in it for themselves They are all liars And football fans are all violent hooligans out for a fight and to cause trouble.
davieG Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Basic problems is there isn't a decent party out there They are all corrupt They are all in it for themselves They are all liars Not all but I guess they pretty much reflect on the make up of society in general.
hairy Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 It seems that last years media heroes UKIP and this years media villians by the general coverage so far this year
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 I don't think it's helped that everyone has such a short attention span now that most of us make judgements based on pretty much f*** all. Hey, a biscuit
ADK Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 We've actually got the power to elect who we want. It's a curious situation, either people actually respect politicians more than they let on or people are incapable of organising themselves to elect people that truly represent their views.
Buce Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 We've actually got the power to elect who we want. It's a curious situation, either people actually respect politicians more than they let on or people are incapable of organising themselves to elect people that truly represent their views. That's simply not true. The latest polls have the Greens on 10%; we will not see 65 Green MPs elected. Fptp is the establishment's way of maintaining the status quo, and preventing us being represented by who we might actually want to represent us.
ADK Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 But presumably more than 10% want a labour or Tory government. I'm not a fan of FPTP either but there's nothing to stop a party becoming popular enough to do well.
Sir Fynwy Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Debates with a panel of 7 bullshitters who don't answer the question asked will be absolutely farcical.
SMX11 Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 The proposed 7 person debate sounds a complete mess. How long will it be. 1 hour wouldn't be enough for a proper debate. Then again I think Mr C wants it that way.
Buce Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 I think the empty chair is a great idea: it would have more honesty and integrity than any politician..
Vlad the Fox Posted 23 January 2015 Posted 23 January 2015 Cameron was brave to do them last time and it probably backfired against him. Ideally I'd like the debates but if they're going to help Labour we're better off without them. Anything that has milliband talking to the nation for any length of time isn't going to help labour.
Rincewind Posted 24 January 2015 Posted 24 January 2015 This is from the Daily Mail and the sort of thing that puts me off politicians. How anyone can say they are not out of touch with the ordinary working man is beyond me. A Story about Lord Rees Mogg. He even has a nanny who he took electioneering with him.And he has a couple of servants to hold books behind his head to shield him from the sun. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2922162/Let-drink-bubbly-Lords-highest-quality-champagne-Parliament-privilege-peerage-says-Tory-MP.html
SMX11 Posted 24 January 2015 Posted 24 January 2015 Jacob Rees-Mogg is one of the better politicians! He doesn't hide the fact that he is toff but at least he has principles and doesn't bow to tory whips.
Lionator Posted 24 January 2015 Posted 24 January 2015 That's simply not true. The latest polls have the Greens on 10%; we will not see 65 Green MPs elected. Fptp is the establishment's way of maintaining the status quo, and preventing us being represented by who we might actually want to represent us. Added on to that, voting Green will more than likely lead to a Tory government. Where's the fairness in that?
leicsmac Posted 24 January 2015 Posted 24 January 2015 There's a lot of people who can see that FPTP is a broken system when it comes to representation, but people are afraid of change more. That's why the AV campaign fell flat on its arse a while ago. Well, that and the campaign itself being shit. That being said, a hung parliament this time could have some interesting consequences on that score if no coalition can be formed quickly.
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 Interesting and amusing piece on Newsnight outlining some of the possible scenarios that the GE might throw up. All of them had no overall for either party and all suggested that the SNP would likely be key to forming the next government. Really hammered home the issue of legitimacy too. At least one of the smaller parties will be in a strongish bargaining position and may well be able to exert a lot of pressure on the government. That, combined with the fact that the PM will likely have a small share of the vote, will make it tough for the parties in office to convince people that they have a mandate to govern.
act smiley Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 A live debate would be great for Farage as there is nothing to use against UKIP other than the "racist" argument which isn't going to work at this point. Depends - if someone goes in on him backing TTIP and the clauses in that which would allow American multinationals to sue the government if they change any laws that would affect their profits, then it could get interesting. Doubt Clegg or Milliband would have the balls to do that, though.
SMX11 Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 Depends - if someone goes in on him backing TTIP and the clauses in that which would allow American multinationals to sue the government if they change any laws that would affect their profits, then it could get interesting. Doubt Clegg or Milliband would have the balls to do that, though. Well he doesn't back TTIP so I think that is a non starter.
act smiley Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 They originally backed the whole dispute resolution section and their current policy is to aim to get a ringfence to protect the NHS, and to accept it for everything else (although they've had some senior individuals want it all). Better than the Tories and the Lib Dems, I'll admit, but not exactly resounding opposition; it's a softer stance than Labour, the Greens and uhhh, the EU.
SMX11 Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 Genuine free trade is greatly beneficial but as many suspect it smells like vested interests behind the scenes are trying to cut deals hence why these talks have gone on for ages. A genuine free trade deal wouldn't take very long to negotiate.
Guest MattP Posted 27 January 2015 Posted 27 January 2015 Full Natalie Bennett interview here, starts on about 4.30. Pretty incredible stuff on most things, with regards to economic competence you could be forgiven for thinking it's a pisstake sketch show of politics. It's quite scary a leader can know so little about their own party.
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