Col city fan Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Speaks volumes that hardly any of us can agree on the best squad/formation/right back to play. Not really chap. I suspect if you go back thru similar threads last season you'll find lots of different views on formations and best teams. I do agree though that this year seems even more so. The 4-4-2 doesnt appear to be the default formation anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Not really chap. I suspect if you go back thru similar threads last season you'll find lots of different views on formations and best teams. I do agree though that this year seems even more so. The 4-4-2 doesnt appear to be the default formation anymore. I can't agree with this (sorry I'm trying to be nice to you at the moment). Last year we had a settled XI for about 3 months straight, which is unprecedented in recent times and the side virtually picked itself. Also we didn't have anywhere near as many options. I struggle to believe that we had any threads (for instance) calling for 2 players with 0 appearances even on the subs' bench to be in the first XI (Powell and Lawrence) or that there was a genuine split on who should play right back. I've seen about 10 different permutations on who should play CM alone in this thread. Last year it was always Drinkwater/James by virtually unanimous consent. At most there were 4 permutations suggested for games when we weren't rotating the side, being King/James, Drinkwater/James, Drinkwater/King/James and Drinkwater/King. We've got loads of options this year and frankly nobody has any idea what our best combination is yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 I can't agree with this (sorry I'm trying to be nice to you at the moment). Last year we had a settled XI for about 3 months straight, which is unprecedented in recent times and the side virtually picked itself. Also we didn't have anywhere near as many options. I struggle to believe that we had any threads (for instance) calling for 2 players with 0 appearances even on the subs' bench to be in the first XI (Powell and Lawrence) or that there was a genuine split on who should play right back. I've seen about 10 different permutations on who should play CM alone in this thread. Last year it was always Drinkwater/James by virtually unanimous consent. At most there were 4 permutations suggested for games when we weren't rotating the side, being King/James, Drinkwater/James, Drinkwater/King/James and Drinkwater/King. We've got loads of options this year and frankly nobody has any idea what our best combination is yet. Nn need to be nice to me, you have your view I have mine.I think there WERE plenty of options last season. Were we playing Wasa or Moore? Would Jeff be left back, or Konch? Where did GTF fit in? Should Phillips start games? Was Wood good enough? Dyer or Mahrez? Etc... I think you are right, there was a patch where we had a very settled side, but that was down as much to injury as anything else if I recollect. Eg. Schlupp came in for Konch and cemented his place for some time. Dyer got injured and Mahrez got his chance. Where I think this season is different to last is mainly in the best formation. 4-4-2 was the recipe of the day, last year, and replacement players came in and slotted into that formation almost seamlessly. Now, I don't think Pearson knows his favourite formation. Or, he feels he needs to change it up to cope with the demands of the improved opposition. This, I think, is the biggest shame actually. Pearson needs to decide on his best formation and his best team and go out to impose OUR game onto the opposition. Instead, he seems to be referring to type (we've seen him do this before) and err on the side of defensive players and formations, giving too much emphasis to what the opposition might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Nn need to be nice to me, you have your view I have mine. I think there WERE plenty of options last season. Were we playing Wasa or Moore? Would Jeff be left back, or Konch? Where did GTF fit in? Should Phillips start games? Was Wood good enough? Dyer or Mahrez? Etc... I think you are right, there was a patch where we had a very settled side, but that was down as much to injury as anything else if I recollect. Eg. Schlupp came in for Konch and cemented his place for some time. Dyer got injured and Mahrez got his chance. Where I think this season is different to last is mainly in the best formation. 4-4-2 was the recipe of the day, last year, and replacement players came in and slotted into that formation almost seamlessly. Now, I don't think Pearson knows his favourite formation. Or, he feels he needs to change it up to cope with the demands of the improved opposition. This, I think, is the biggest shame actually. Pearson needs to decide on his best formation and his best team and go out to impose OUR game onto the opposition. Instead, he seems to be referring to type (we've seen him do this before) and err on the side of defensive players and formations, giving too much emphasis to what the opposition might do. Again, I don't think that the 5 or 6 selection issues you've highlighted (and I don't think it extends beyond what you've written, it's pretty comprehensive) remotely compares to the fact that we've probably got 22-23 players in the squad who you could make a case for starting in any given game. Already this season we've started 18 different players in the league (8 games), which is not far off our total for last season (46 games). It's assumed by many that Simpson will start on Saturday to make it 19. I'm not sure that the size of our squad is a good thing. A close group was clearly an important cog in our success last year. Problem is we don't have the loan window to fall back on so a bigger squad is a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Still early in the season. I think we will find a more settled first 11 in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Again, I don't think that the 5 or 6 selection issues you've highlighted (and I don't think it extends beyond what you've written, it's pretty comprehensive) remotely compares to the fact that we've probably got 22-23 players in the squad who you could make a case for starting in any given game. Already this season we've started 18 different players in the league (8 games), which is not far off our total for last season (46 games). It's assumed by many that Simpson will start on Saturday to make it 19. I'm not sure that the size of our squad is a good thing. A close group was clearly an important cog in our success last year. Problem is we don't have the loan window to fall back on so a bigger squad is a necessity. The squad size needed increasing of course. And it's still early in the season. However, my concern is that we haven't strengthened with players who are clearly better than what we had. If we had, within reason, the first team would have picked itself. The chopping and changing, I think, is reflective of the players being all of pretty equal ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 With the danger coming from the pace and width in Swansea's side I would be tempted to play: but it will probably be a 4-5-1. Schmeichel De Laet Morgan Moore Konchesky Albrighton Drinkwater James King Mahrez Ulloa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easilee Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 King needs some match time. When he has featured he has shown liveliness and commitment. He may not have had time to settle into the games he has featured in as well as he/we would have liked but it seems to me, he could do a really good job until James is 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamba's Babes Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Bin RDL. I have more confidence in Konch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard99 Posted 24 October 2014 Share Posted 24 October 2014 Schmeichel Simpson Moore Morgan Schlupp Cambiasso Mahrez James Drinkwater Albrighton Vardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Kop Corner Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 SchmeichelSimpsonMooreMorganSchluppCambiassoJamesDrinkwater MahrezVardy UlloaThis team has bags of pace, guile, steel and give us the best opportunity for victory today. I hope NP reads this message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Schmeichel Simpson Moore Morgan Schlupp Cambiasso James Drinkwater Mahrez Vardy Ulloa This team has bags of pace, guile, steel and give us the best opportunity for victory today. I hope NP reads this message board. Its a team i would love to see play - Schlupp but i doubt it will, Pearson will probably start r 4411 or god help us 451 again. but **** it everyone has wrote us of for the match (myself included) so why not go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 So it seems we have to decide each week between a stable midfield of Drinks James and Cambiasso with three up front or King/Nugent at the top of a diamond and two up. or Play with width utilising wingers albrighton and Mahrez and sacrifice a man in the middle. Is it that if we -play option 1, for it to work we need extremely pacy left/right back performances overlapping? Do we have the personnel for this? Schlupp & Simpson? *Unsure* If we play option 2 we have to drop James or Cambiasso which seems a little insane - it's rubbish with five in midfield and one up front...... I really don't know what our best side is anymore - I'm as glad as you all are that I'm not the manager, I'm just not seeing the picture the jigsaw makes or if we have the correct pieces at the moment. Pearson certainly has a Plan B and C though and we don't look out of our depth, just maybe not fulfilling our potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Just play Mahrez and Vardy else I'll start supporting Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Going by Konchesky's insta there's no simpson. He commented "all the best lad". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Going by Konchesky's insta there's no simpson. He commented "all the best lad". Thankfully NP has seen sense there. Regarding the team today, we have to get at a team that hasn't won in 5. They'll be scared and cagey. We can't expect to flood the midfield and Nick it because we don't currwntly have the quality from set pieces or finishing in general. Love to set up to get into them early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Vardy, nugent, Ulloa and Mahrez all start. 4231 I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 25 October 2014 Share Posted 25 October 2014 Vardy, nugent, Ulloa and Mahrez all start. 4231 I guess Brilliant. Didn't expect that. Let's get at em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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