premiership not all its cracked up to be

[DB11]

Don't bother going to games. At least you can stream every game in the Prem

[Stevie Synex]

Spot on DT.

All this 'we'd be better off in the Championship' is actually a bit pathetic.

Where is our bloody ambition!

 

Col

 

Our ambition has currently arrived at the bottom of the premier division

[Matt]

So I can't wait for this season to end, it's soul destroying, depressing, winding me up every week and i'm getting very angry with this whole shite experience.

 

IMO we're already relegated, these players are not good enough, they are not going improve enough to save us.

 

As i've said I can't wait for this season to end, not because I want to be back in the Championship, I don't, but it's happening, I think i'm trying to talk myself into it, fool myself.

 

If we're still in with a chance of staying up on the last game of the season of course i'd want us to stay up, but i'd want a whole new team in the summer - which is a dangerous strategy in itself.

 

That scenario will not be happening though, we'll be long gone before the last game.

[foxes_rule1978]

I haven't been impressed with any team we've played so far, as poor as we've been over 17 games, no team has really looked good.

It's no wonder the England team is going backwards if this is what Hodgson has to pick from, the likes of Sterling, Henderson and Hart..average footballers.

Okay, what about the Chelsea players like Costa and hazard and man city players like Aguero, Kompany and Toure guess they are all sh** too... or don't they count as part of the league because they don't back up everything English is sh** argument you have...

[Donut]

Dont know whether im being controversial or not, but is there just some sort of "coolness" factor people like about slating the Premiership?

 

Like its a "look at me, im anti establishment, im anti capitalist, im a noise making minority who wants to be heard" kind of vibe people put over where the denounce everything about the top flight as being shit?

 

Its like......the vibe at the moment is when you reach the Premiership you might as well pack up being a fan.

[GaelicFox]

Everyone makes some good points ,

I suppose the idea is to strive to be the best and play the best , but there is something quite mucky and Murdock driven about the EPL ,

I'm fascinated by its growth and explosion but honestly it's becoming a bit homogenised and some old same old in quite a few arena

In reality I want to stay up , feel part of the party , the glitz etc.... Right now I feel our team is like the stinking piky relatives that no one likes to see , West ham have apparently ONE cat C game this year and it was US , I was grateful for the £25 ticket and I'm Contradicting myself here a little but at least we were a big fish in the championship pond

And unless Nidge pull's his finger out and gets some quality in I don't see us being in with the cool gang anytime soon

I'm hoping anfield gives me a boost and a different perspective on the league

[LCFC Rennie]

Spot on DT.

All this 'we'd be better off in the Championship' is actually a bit pathetic.

Where is our bloody ambition!

Our ambition went when we got outplayed by Palace and West Brom.

[AyewJoking]

Would you rather we be alsorans in the Championship each season because any good team at that level aspires to reach the "boring over priced Premier League.

 

 

Would we even be discussing this if we were winning more often and were well placed in the table?

 

Maybe you should find a non league team and get real football and cheaper pies.

[GaelicFox]

Would you rather we be alsorans in the Championship each season because any good team at that level aspires to reach the "boring over priced Premier League.

 

 

Would we even be discussing this if we were winning more often and were well placed in the table?

 

Maybe you should find a non league team and get real football and cheaper pies.

Sad thing is Royston I would likely get better football at a non league team , when that changes your right buddy we might all be a lot happier in this SKY/BT top 4 focused , infested cash cow

[Dr The Singh]

Would you rather we be alsorans in the Championship each season because any good team at that level aspires to reach the "boring over priced Premier League.

 

 

Would we even be discussing this if we were winning more often and were well placed in the table?

 

Maybe you should find a non league team and get real football and cheaper pies.

I like your style!

[Donut]

Sad thing is Royston I would likely get better football at a non league team , when that changes your right buddy we might all be a lot happier in this SKY/BT top 4 focused , infested cash cow

 

With all due respect, when people trot this out, it just sounds bitter and sad.

[Donut]

The premiership is a bit of a let down

1, No local derby to enjoy

2 Tickets over priced

3, Stadiums all sterile and all much of a much

4, The atmosphere is shocking in some of these grounds

5, The City away following seems to becoming institutionalised to being reserved and they are a little under performing like the quaint and hospitality driven mainstay teams in the premiership

6, Impossible to park near premiership ground

7, Price of beer and pies crazy

8, Programmes are silly money

9 The half and half scarfs are fecking everywhere and driving me mad

10, We are on TV less ( I think)

11, And most importantly we loose every week

Let's celebrate our likely relegation like a prodigal son returning to a long lost championship mothers embrace

 

My personal thoughts:

 

1. Dont care. Id rather be playing against a genuinely big team the majority of weeks with a chance to turn them over, than playing against Forest or Derby in a league below where no one outside the midlands cares.

 

2. Agreed on ticket prices. But football on the whole is overpriced. Championship clubs like Ipswich and Leeds charge extortionate ticket prices for a very second rate product.

 

3. Stadiums are miles better in the Premiership. Anfield, Old Trafford, Etihad, St James' Park, Emirates, Villa Park.......sprinkled with a few old school stadiums like Goodison Park, Upton Park, Loftus Road. Championship stadiums are half and half modern and old, but usually half empty.

 

4. Atmospheres in general arent as intense in English football as other countries. Not a Premiership thing exclusively.

 

5. Dont know what that means. Anti establishment comment when you consider the loyalty displayed by big clubs away from home.

 

6. Take an alternative mode of transport to the game.

 

7. Im sure you can manage 90 mins of time without feeling a compulsion to buy what you feel is overpriced food or drink.

 

8. The majority of the content is on the internet anyway. Unless you buy them to collect, in which case their value will grow.

 

9. This seems to wind people up and be a new insult. Not really bothered about them. Dont own one, probably will never meet a big enough team competitively for a long time or an occasion big enough to warrant one

 

10. We are on TV less and yet you dont like SKY. Good logic

 

11. If we had done better transfer deals and had a more competitive team, we wouldnt lose every week, people wouldnt be moaning that the Premiership was evil, threads would never appear.

 

My answers in a nutshell

[GaelicFox]

With all due respect, when people trot this out, it just sounds bitter and sad.

I'm very sad my sugar coated ring friend

Anyone who isn't sad isn't a true supporter , it's a very sad sight at present , watching your team on life support

Bitter not at all , if I was bitter I'd refuse to pay , but my TV/online bill for football is over a grand a year , my away day expenses as we all know are rocketing , but I still go , the point I was making to Royston is at present we are watching decent pro's being found out and playing a constipated form of football , NOT what we witnessed last year and half the year before and as such there are probably many non league teams that might offer a more exciting spectacle

[Donut]

I'm very sad my sugar coated ring friend

Anyone who isn't sad isn't a true supporter , it's a very sad sight at present , watching your team on life support

Bitter not at all , if I was bitter I'd refuse to pay , but my TV/online bill for football is over a grand a year , my away day expenses as we all know are rocketing , but I still go , the point I was making to Royston is at present we are watching decent pro's being found out and playing a constipated form of football , NOT what we witnessed last year and half the year before and as such there are probably many non league teams that might offer a more exciting spectacle

 

Of course im sad, I agree with you, i had high hopes for this season and theyve so far ben painfully dashed, im with you on that one.

 

There are only  a handful of teams across the country delivering a consistently exciting spectacle. The rest are toiling away..........but at much lower levels than us.

[GaelicFox]

My personal thoughts:

 

1. Dont care. Id rather be playing against a genuinely big team the majority of weeks with a chance to turn them over, than playing against Forest or Derby in a league below where no one outside the midlands cares.

 

2. Agreed on ticket prices. But football on the whole is overpriced. Championship clubs like Ipswich and Leeds charge extortionate ticket prices for a very second rate product.

 

3. Stadiums are miles better in the Premiership. Anfield, Old Trafford, Etihad, St James' Park, Emirates, Villa Park.......sprinkled with a few old school stadiums like Goodison Park, Upton Park, Loftus Road. Championship stadiums are half and half modern and old, but usually half empty.

 

4. Atmospheres in general arent as intense in English football as other countries. Not a Premiership thing exclusively.

 

5. Dont know what that means. Anti establishment comment when you consider the loyalty displayed by big clubs away from home.

 

6. Take an alternative mode of transport to the game.

 

7. Im sure you can manage 90 mins of time without feeling a compulsion to buy what you feel is overpriced food or drink.

 

8. The majority of the content is on the internet anyway. Unless you buy them to collect, in which case their value will grow.

 

9. This seems to wind people up and be a new insult. Not really bothered about them. Dont own one, probably will never meet a big enough team competitively for a long time or an occasion big enough to warrant one

 

10. We are on TV less and yet you dont like SKY. Good logic

 

11. If we had done better transfer deals and had a more competitive team, we wouldnt lose every week, people wouldnt be moaning that the Premiership was evil, threads would never appear.

 

My answers in a nutshell

1 only thing we will turn over at this rate is ourselves in training

2 yip your right on that

3 I like the raw ones better , but that's subjective so I will take your point

4, I have been to lots of games in Germany , Italy , Spain and Holland , have to disagree on that

5, yes just a whining lefty moan

6 control freak , don't trust train drivers or coach drivers all psychopaths

7 nah I'm a fat git

8 fair point

9 pointless things and sellers obnoxious in your face gits

10 I hate sky but love football so I pay begrudgingly , if we were on more would mean I could moan less about the Murdock EPL monopoly

11, yip Your right again , I'd 100% be able to moan LESS , not stop just less

For a pointless thread you sure so give it some fine thinking and responses

[GaelicFox]

Of course im sad, I agree with you, i had high hopes for this season and theyve so far ben painfully dashed, im with you on that one.

 

There are only  a handful of teams across the country delivering a consistently exciting spectacle. The rest are toiling away..........but at much lower levels than us.

We usually hire the managers of them teams and turn them into idiots ,,,,,, fair point

[Donut]

We usually hire the managers of them teams and turn them into idiots ,,,,,, fair point

 

Were gonna get through this. Even if it means another temporary spell down there in the championship, we will get through this, and have a great premier league club.

 

im hurting every bit like you mate trust me. Our time will come.

[fox in the sox]

I haven't been impressed with any team we've played so far, as poor as we've been over 17 games, no team has really looked good.

It's no wonder the England team is going backwards if this is what Hodgson has to pick from, the likes of Sterling, Henderson and Hart..average footballers.

How is that possible? We have gone from winning regularly to struggling to pick up anything. There must be a huge gap. Unless you are saying the Premier is bad and the Championship is really bad?

[Dan]

I was fully braced for it not being all it's cracked up to be as a match going fan simply due to the appalling pricing, the absolutely garbage atmosphere at nearly every ground and the likelihood of seeing fewer wins, so in some departments I'm just left with no real feeling as it's what I expected anyway.

 

I didn't expect it to be this bad though. I appreciated it would be a struggle but to be honest this has been downright humiliating.

 

The day we win again (and it will happen) will be fantastic. I just know for a fact I won't be there. I've been to every single away game except Stoke how is it actually possible to be that unlucky?

[GaelicFox]

Were gonna get through this. Even if it means another temporary spell down there in the championship, we will get through this, and have a great premier league club.

 

im hurting every bit like you mate trust me. Our time will come.

I agree , I'm impatient , 10 years waiting and I'm being unrealistic

[Dan]

How is that possible? We have gone from winning regularly to struggling to pick up anything. There must be a huge gap. Unless you are saying the Premier is bad and the Championship is really bad?

 

We've gone backwards, without a doubt. We have sacked off everything that made us good last year in exchange for.... for what?

 

It's undoubtedly a significant step up from the Championship but I don't leave these games feeling like we've been truly blown away by excellent sides. Do people genuinely rate the likes of West Brom, QPR, Burnley, Newcastle (they're back to being shit), Aston Villa, Hull etc...? I don't. I think they're just less poor than us.

 

This league is as weak as I've ever seen it. I'm absolutely ashamed we're bottom of this.

[MattGamble92]

All the points made by the OP sound like the whole time I've been supporting Leicester

[maxwelld_]

The premiership is a bit of a let down

1, No local derby to enjoy

2 Tickets over priced

3, Stadiums all sterile and all much of a much

4, The atmosphere is shocking in some of these grounds

5, The City away following seems to becoming institutionalised to being reserved and they are a little under performing like the quaint and hospitality driven mainstay teams in the premiership

6, Impossible to park near premiership ground

7, Price of beer and pies crazy

8, Programmes are silly money

9 The half and half scarfs are fecking everywhere and driving me mad

10, We are on TV less ( I think)

11, And most importantly we loose every week

Let's celebrate our likely relegation like a prodigal son returning to a long lost championship mothers embrace

Dude if we were sitting in 8th and playing well would u have started this thread ?

[The Year Of The Fox]

I dunno. Having this conversation with the lads last night. I've said from Day 1 the best thing about promotion was the celebrating the actual promotion season. I can't stand the PL brand in all honesty. Unless you're able to do a Southampton (who have yet to go as far as Leed's did in the 2000s- and we know how they've ended up) surviving anything more than one season in the PL does seem pointless IMO. You're not gaining anything from it are you? Ticket prices are generally higher, the atmosphere once the novelty had worn off down the KP has petered out to nothing better than most other seasons I've seen us play in the Championship. Beating United was the peak of this season and even if we stay up for another 5 seasons beyond this- it'll still be the peak/highlight.

 

I don't want us to go down but I can't see the point in wanting to be in the PL every season flirting with relegation and losing 70-80% of most games either. It's probably the reason why I'm not renewing whether we stay up or go down.

[Happy Fox]

I dunno. Having this conversation with the lads last night. I've said from Day 1 the best thing about promotion was the celebrating the actual promotion season. I can't stand the PL brand in all honesty. Unless you're able to do a Southampton (who have yet to go as far as Leed's did in the 2000s- and we know how they've ended up) surviving anything more than one season in the PL does seem pointless IMO. You're not gaining anything from it are you? Beating United was the peak of this season and even if we stay up for another 5 seasons beyond this- it'll still be the peak/highlight.

 

I don't want us to go down but I can't see the point in wanting to be in the PL every season flirting with relegation and losing 70-80% of most games either. It's probably the reason why I'm not renewing whether we stay up or go down.

 

Would you prefer to yo-yo between the top flight and the championship? now we are in the prem I want us to settle here, and who knows maybe in a couple of seasons we could challenge for a Europa League place, our stadium may get expanded.