Rincewind Posted 30 January 2015 Author Posted 30 January 2015 I'd probably drop the copyright to the very bottom of the page, you could then just put your name if you wished a couple of lines down from the last line of the poem. You will probably need to be careful about the copyright of images used. Have you got a good camera? The copyright is the sites doing not sure if I can move it and the picture is theirs so maybe that will do. Not my cup of tea personally but here are some constructive suggestions I think using a red rose with hearts might allow the wrong connotation. Purples and pinks are more in keeping with the marketing of the day. Think about using a serif font too as that would appeal more to the type of person who'd buy this sort of product Just use your surname, Ken Duddle isn't as 'poetic' as simply 'Duddle'. Finally, and very pinickity, had you considered using a feminine ending somewhere in your third quatrain around your retrospective perspective? not sure what you mean by the feminine perspective. It's a sonnet so needs to be in a certain format. I will see if I can change the picture and move the copyright. There were some pictures with pink flowers. I think my other poems I may have to use my own images or get permission for others. I have two in mind. One subject little children and the other faries (mythical)
MooseBreath Posted 30 January 2015 Posted 30 January 2015 A good try. 4/10 Don't know why you think I'd be negative about this. How about instead of assuming that you know what I think, you tell ken what you think? Be honest if you've got the balls.
MooseBreath Posted 30 January 2015 Posted 30 January 2015 I like it, a complimentary insult. Absolutely no insult there ken and to be honest I'm a bit baffled as to how you got that idea?
Rincewind Posted 30 January 2015 Author Posted 30 January 2015 Absolutely no insult there ken and to be honest I'm a bit baffled as to how you got that idea? Maybe I took your last sentence 'they'll lap that shit up' the wrong way' The rest was fine.
Rincewind Posted 31 January 2015 Author Posted 31 January 2015 Tried again. There is not a lot of choice with the fonts. Cannot remove the text at the top ut moved the copyright bit. Anyway the line at the top shows where the image came from. Changed the picture to pinkish flowers with a blue text. I will get a couple of cheapish frames to use as samples.Now I can sleep. Re the feminine perspective, the idea was that it could apply to male or female. I would have liked to have done a father one but my dad died in 1972 and I don't remember him being involved much in me and my siblings lives much. He was not one to show his affection openly. He sat in his armchair smoking and reading the racing pages whilst coughing his lungs up. If anyone can pass on any memories of what a father means to them I can try and incorporate it in a poem. Maybe another sonnet. I just need one or two ideas to get me going. Do it on here or in a PM if you prefer.
Darkon84 Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 I've skipped through most of this, but I think the sunset backgrounds etc are a bit over-done now. find some nice mellow, mixed, or misty colours, or colours that match the feeling of the poem. Certainly change the font to something more flowing and similar to handwriting to give it a more 'human' feeling, rather than just typed and computer etc, if that makes sense? I have a good friend who is heavily in to his poetry and has had a fair few things published. You need to keep in mind who you are aiming these things at too. Either way, good luck mate, it's worth a try and kudos for giving it a go. I've got a few more ideas etc I've picked up from my friend, and also from selling some lyrics myself in the past. PM me if you have any questions.
Merging Cultures Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 I think it is a great idea Ken. But, the pictures are awful. Go on Pinterest and look at some modern designs. Personally, I'd probably buy one or your poems if it was handwritten and signed on a thick bit of card and nicely mounted. I think that way, it is likely to be more valuable, but it is also more personal than a printout.
Nick Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Don't know why you think I'd be negative about this. How about instead of assuming that you know what I think, you tell ken what you think? Be honest if you've got the balls. No, I'll leave the role of being a big man on the internet firmly to you. I think this is a nice idea ken. I'll never say a bad word about people proactively trying to create opportunities for themselves. I think it's great. How about putting burger love against a picture of a burger and then going door to door selling it to independent fast food joints? They'll lap that shit up for sure. Like say Ken volunteering for a charity to create opportunities for himself and others? No, you've never said a bad word about that.
fleckneymike Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 The copyright is the sites doing not sure if I can move it and the picture is theirs so maybe that will do. not sure what you mean by the feminine perspective. It's a sonnet so needs to be in a certain format. I will see if I can change the picture and move the copyright. There were some pictures with pink flowers. I think my other poems I may have to use my own images or get permission for others. I have two in mind. One subject little children and the other faries (mythical) Feminine 'ending'. When you end with an unstressed syllable. It may help reinforce your reflective perspective when recalling your mothers actions. Shakespeare uses it to show contemplation, think Hamlet and the "to BE or NOT to BE; THAT is the QUESTion" it's a nice audible clue to the reader/audience. If you place it near the Volta in the third quatrain etc etc etc
MPH Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 As for working out how much to sell it for. .. surely there's no working out if you are selling it on ebay?
Webbo Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 As for working out how much to sell it for. .. surely there's no working out if you are selling it on ebay? You'd have to charge a fixed price for something like this. Surely there's a business studies student on here who could tell you what to charge.
Rincewind Posted 1 February 2015 Author Posted 1 February 2015 Yes I was thinking of a fixed price. I bought a couple of frames from a charity shop to try it out. The problem with the site where I used the image is that the font type is limited. GI can use an existing text or put it into a box. Going to see if I can copy and paste from another place like word otherwise I will have to find a site that allows you to use images and go from there. I don't know how to put the text on though. I have open office on the laptop that I am using.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2015 Author Posted 2 February 2015 Thinking about it I may be able to get around the problem of the right font on a picture.If I had something with a border, print it off then reprint the words onto it.I was thinking of something with pink,blue and yellow border design wrapped around the poem. I just need to find somewhere that will allow me to download for free. Also with open office I can load a picture and set it in the background which will enable me to place a text box over it. Tried it yesterday but for some reason I could not do it. Maybe because I was pasting the text. Still not in that great a rush yet.
Smudge Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Thinking about it I may be able to get around the problem of the right font on a picture.If I had something with a border, print it off then reprint the words onto it.I was thinking of something with pink,blue and yellow border design wrapped around the poem. I just need to find somewhere that will allow me to download for free. Also with open office I can load a picture and set it in the background which will enable me to place a text box over it. Tried it yesterday but for some reason I could not do it. Maybe because I was pasting the text. Still not in that great a rush yet. I have Photoshop Ken it's really simple tp do what you want. If you send me the pictures and tell me what font you need I'll do it for you. I'll pm my email address.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2015 Author Posted 2 February 2015 Thanks Smudge I've not found the right picture yet. As above it is a poem in a sonnet style script font called Mother so the picture needs to be something that goes with it. I have found some backgrounds in open office that cover the whole page. I can send the poem and you can play around with it if you like. I was thinking maybe a border with the poem central maybe in different colours.
Smudge Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Thanks Smudge I've not found the right picture yet. As above it is a poem in a sonnet style script font called Mother so the picture needs to be something that goes with it. I have found some backgrounds in open office that cover the whole page. I can send the poem and you can play around with it if you like. I was thinking maybe a border with the poem central maybe in different colours. OK, If any of the FT photographic fraternity have something they could donate, that would help with the copyright issue.
Smudge Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I'm not suggesting this is for everyone but I think that using a real person adds something that has emotion, well it certainly did for me. This lady was my mother. I'm sure with a colour photgraph the style could be dramatically different. Edit: - With border & sepia tone
Rincewind Posted 3 February 2015 Author Posted 3 February 2015 I like that.I was also thinking of offering to do it with personal photos but don't want to run before I can walk.I am not really business minded and don't know how much time I would have to spend on it. If I have everything ready and the process of sending the items off was simple It would be OK. Don't mind giving it a go though. On a side note. I wrote a poem relating to the Kings Head poker night. One of the players concept of the game is limited but he is the one that does the volunteering for Wishes For Kids. Anyway I called it All In Sean. The landlord liked it and gave it to a mate who has put music to it and there is now a video of him playing to guitar and singing it. Not on YouTube yet until he gives permission. It was only meant as a bit of fun and now I'm a song writer. I doubt it will get to number one in the charts though.
Smudge Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I like that.I was also thinking of offering to do it with personal photos but don't want to run before I can walk.I am not really business minded and don't know how much time I would have to spend on it. If I have everything ready and the process of sending the items off was simple It would be OK. Don't mind giving it a go though. On a side note. I wrote a poem relating to the Kings Head poker night. One of the players concept of the game is limited but he is the one that does the volunteering for Wishes For Kids. Anyway I called it All In Sean. The landlord liked it and gave it to a mate who has put music to it and there is now a video of him playing to guitar and singing it. Not on YouTube yet until he gives permission. It was only meant as a bit of fun and now I'm a song writer. I doubt it will get to number one in the charts though. That's fine, I will help you any way I can. Don't be afraid to ask for help since I have lots of time on my hands and I enjoy doing this.
Rincewind Posted 3 February 2015 Author Posted 3 February 2015 That's fine, I will help you any way I can. Don't be afraid to ask for help since I have lots of time on my hands and I enjoy doing this. OK I'll see what I can do over the next couple of days. This is the poem I wrote about the poker night. i was thinking of doing something similar. Centre poem with an image of the person of the title in the four corners like a playing cards. two inverted. I have a picture in mind but will need to be cropped. I was thinking of seeing if it can be raffled off for the charity. This is the picture but want it just head and shoulders and minturised. Edit. I've managed to do it.
MooseBreath Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The fire is red as blood. I watch the flames go up in the air as I taste the sadness of the people whose houses have burnt to the ground. I turn back, but all I hear is the bursting and explosion of flames.
Nick Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 The fire is red as blood. I watch the flames go up in the air as I taste the sadness of the people whose houses have burnt to the ground. I turn back, but all I hear is the bursting and explosion of flames. Deep.
MooseBreath Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Deep. It has been described as the "most terrifying poem ever". Seriously.
Nick Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 It has been described as the "most terrifying poem ever". Seriously. Are you the nine year old girl that wrote it?
Rincewind Posted 3 February 2015 Author Posted 3 February 2015 Poetry is a lot to do with imagery. 'The fire is as red as blood' That describes a lot. Who wrote it?
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