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Rather play the likes of the big boys and give em a game than going back to another season of wolves,reading,ipswich n co....

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Every time I hear pearson talking he's just dismissive about the whole situation either he's simply trying to brainwash us all into thinking were really going to stay up or he's just bullshitting to himself theres no concern whatsoever I'd rather have a manager kicking every ball and even a bit of panic rather than the one we have who looks like he couldn't give a @@@@

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Every time I hear pearson talking he's just dismissive about the whole situation either he's simply trying to brainwash us all into thinking were really going to stay up or he's just bullshitting to himself theres no concern whatsoever I'd rather have a manager kicking every ball and even a bit of panic rather than the one we have who looks like he couldn't give a @@@@

Nope - he's just a calm fella, who probably realises that if he gets sacked he's still got a loving family. People were saying it was a strength last season that he wasn't getting carried away and kept our feet on the ground. And when he does get emotional AKA F off and Die, he gets slated........

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I think he thinks that apart from the O'Neill halcyon years the rest has been a shit-fest. City fans tend to have the optimism beaten out of them by occasional success followed by prolonged dissapointments.

Kenton and Mayberry in CM for the next game, please

 

I don't know, my Dad's 66. Ten years ago he was thinking that, in his 50 years supporting the club he'd seen Leicester in the top flight for 32 years of them. His expectations are likely to be very different from fans who've only know the post-O'Neill or post-Adams eras.

 

And I think there's no harm in having those sorts of expectations. If having lower expectations means that when you're in the top flight with a great chance of survival, but a manager who looks hopelessly out of his depth, you hang on to him because he might be alright once he gets you relegated (though he'll most probably be useless if you ever come up again), then that can't be healthy.

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Two games we needed to win and we scored ................... Er , well we didn't

some teams have difficult games infront of goal but they don't concede so they walk away with a point. we can't keep pointing to luck as the explanation.

I just can't see a way out of this. Every season, the teams near the bottom pick up form over their last half dozen games. We can't expect the teams above us to keep on failing to win. we pretty well need to win half our remaining games, assuming we don't draw any.

Shame - let's hope if the worst comes to the worst that our championship squad can do it all again next season. At least we have that positive to clutch!

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Nope - he's just a calm fella, who probably realises that if he gets sacked he's still got a loving family. People were saying it was a strength last season that he wasn't getting carried away and kept our feet on the ground. And when he does get emotional AKA F off and Die, he gets slated........

 

I think the f*** off and die is what tells us that he's not 'just a calm fella'. And of course he got slated, he behaved like a child rather than a professional, and his actions were unlike anything I've ever seen from a City manager or any other manager in a relegation struggle. Neither have I ever known a City manager refuse to speak to local media because he doesn't think much of the interviewer, normally there's a sense of respect for the fact that local radio is a means of communicating with the fans. To be honest, his jubilation after the Manchester United victory and his slating of Burnley a few games later also indicated that he's not a very 'calm fella'.

 

And while I'm pleased for him that he's got 'a loving family' to fall back on, that's of no use to Leicester City. If it takes a manager to absolutely hate his family for him to stay awake at night, putting in the extra hours to plot our survival (I remember Pearson saying that, unlike some managers, he doesn't take his work home with him, and I know for a fact that our team gets more days off than other Premier League sides), then I'd rather have that.

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I think the f*** off and die is what tells us that he's not 'just a calm fella'. And of course he got slated, he behaved like a child rather than a professional, and his actions were unlike anything I've ever seen from a City manager or any other manager in a relegation struggle. Neither have I ever known a City manager refuse to speak to local media because he doesn't think much of the interviewer, normally there's a sense of respect for the fact that local radio is a means of communicating with the fans. To be honest, his jubilation after the Manchester United victory and his slating of Burnley a few games later also indicated that he's not a very 'calm fella'.

And while I'm pleased for him that he's got 'a loving family' to fall back on, that's of no use to Leicester City. If it takes a manager to absolutely hate his family for him to stay awake at night, putting in the extra hours to plot our survival (I remember Pearson saying that, unlike some managers, he doesn't take his work home with him, and I know for a fact that our team gets more days off than other Premier League sides), then I'd rather have that.

Spot on , so would I it seems his attitude towards a lot of things doesn't do him any favours , it was a similar attitude on transfer deadline night well I won't be staying up until that time it's not my job , I'm feeling a tide is turning here I didn't hear many positive response on RL tonight on the phone in , I'm wondering what the owners are thinking now as they fly out of the ground in the helicopter back to London

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It's all well and good saying 'we're only 3 points away' but we've been this close all season and not once when we've had the chance have we looked like getting out if it.

Realistically with the run of fixtures coming up and game we'll be behind because of the Chelsea postponement means we'll be routed to the bottom until March 4th minimum. Who knows how many points we'll be behind by then?

Spot on. We've been saying for months we're still in it and technically we are but time is running out and we aren't getting any better and we keep losing the 'must win' games as well as the ones against the 'Big' teams. I've up to now held on to the run in being winnable but the trouble is we might be too far adrift and probably more damning is we aren't beating them anyway! Two wins at home all season is shocking and one of those was a 'freak' result we couldn't repeat.

The other thing at the back of my mind is how many teams fade following relegation? When you look at the team now I don't expect them just to be able to roll back last season in the Championship. A relegation season causes rifts where 'blame' is at the back of minds. We were relegated ten years ago with possibly a better team than now and that team split up and ten years and a (very enjoyable but not wanted) trip to league one ensued before a promotion party was to be had. It's not a nailed on certainty, just look at the current Championship.

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It's a shit league and somehow we are bottom, I can only see this being the fault of pig head Pearson, out of his depth, poor tactics and team selection all season. Totally out if his depth in the Prem yet his supporters will blindly follow him back down into the Championship,

Reality check please

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It's a shit league and somehow we are bottom, I can only see this being the fault of pig head Pearson, out of his depth, poor tactics and team selection all season. Totally out if his depth in the Prem yet his supporters will blindly follow him back down into the Championship,

Reality check please

OK, this is the first season we've been in the Premier League out of 10 there's your reality check Lawro.

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Was my reaction at full time and I'm generally quite optimistic, however I don't feel relegation is as catastrophic as some fans make it out to be, we're in a good position as a club. 

 

You're wrong, relegation is always catastrophic. It's a negative thing, the opposite of what a club should hope to achieve. Accepting relegation is anti-sport, it completely defeats the point of why we follow football.

 

Being 'in a good position as a club', financially, I assume you mean, is fairly meaningless in that argument. The whole point of the club's existence is to try and succeed and not fail in the league system.

 

Relegation is failure.

 

I cant believe I'm having to explain the concept of sport to people.

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You're wrong, relegation is always catastrophic. It's a negative thing, the opposite of what a club should hope to achieve. Accepting relegation is anti-sport, it completely defeats the point of why we follow football.

 

Being 'in a good position as a club', financially, I assume you mean, is fairly meaningless in that argument. The whole point of the club's existence is to try and succeed and not fail in the league system.

 

Relegation is failure.

 

I cant believe I'm having to explain the concept of sport to people.

 

Of course. There are people out there who seem keen to embrace relegation, as if we were a Blackpool, a Burnley, a Swindon, a Barnsley, or a Bradford, and always knew we weren't cut out for this sort of thing. We're where we want to be, where we've been for half of the last 60 years, and we have to do everything in our power to stay here. If we go down, we have to make sure that when we do finally go back up, it's with someone who can keep us there. The idea that relegation is completely acceptable for a club like ours, or that losing to pretty much anyone is alright because they're probably better than us, smacks of a hopeless lack of ambition.

 

Our last relegation from this league saw us in the wilderness for a generation, and drop into the third tier for the first time ever. The one before that saw the club financially fold. The one before that preceded a seven year absence, when we also nearly went down to the third tier. Don't we learn anything, ever?

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Of course. There are people out there who seem keen to embrace relegation, as if we were a Blackpool, a Burnley, a Swindon, a Barnsley, or a Bradford, and always knew we weren't cut out for this sort of thing. We're where we want to be, where we've been for half of the last 60 years, and we have to do everything in our power to stay here. If we go down, we have to make sure that when we do finally go back up, it's with someone who can keep us there. The idea that relegation is completely acceptable for a club like ours, or that losing to pretty much anyone is alright because they're probably better than us, smacks of a hopeless lack of ambition.

Our last relegation from this league saw us in the wilderness for a generation, and drop into the third tier for the first time ever. The one before that saw the club financially fold. The one before that preceded a seven year absence, when we also nearly went down to the third tier. Don't we learn anything, ever?

You missed the 94/95 relegation but aside from that decent point.

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Of course. There are people out there who seem keen to embrace relegation, as if we were a Blackpool, a Burnley, a Swindon, a Barnsley, or a Bradford, and always knew we weren't cut out for this sort of thing. We're where we want to be, where we've been for half of the last 60 years, and we have to do everything in our power to stay here. If we go down, we have to make sure that when we do finally go back up, it's with someone who can keep us there. The idea that relegation is completely acceptable for a club like ours, or that losing to pretty much anyone is alright because they're probably better than us, smacks of a hopeless lack of ambition.

 

Our last relegation from this league saw us in the wilderness for a generation, and drop into the third tier for the first time ever. The one before that saw the club financially fold. The one before that preceded a seven year absence, when we also nearly went down to the third tier. Don't we learn anything, ever?

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You're wrong, relegation is always catastrophic. It's a negative thing, the opposite of what a club should hope to achieve. Accepting relegation is anti-sport, it completely defeats the point of why we follow football.

 

Being 'in a good position as a club', financially, I assume you mean, is fairly meaningless in that argument. The whole point of the club's existence is to try and succeed and not fail in the league system.

 

Relegation is failure.

 

I cant believe I'm having to explain the concept of sport to people.

Relegation happens to 3 teams every year in this league, the world doesn't end, we move on and we try for success again. We'll still be discussing LCFC in here next year regardless of what league we're in. Of course I want us to stay up but I'm resigned to going down and it's football, it's not the end of the world. 

 

The point about being in a good position as a club, both financially and with a good infrastructure and management from top to bottom, means we're better equipped to challenge for the title again next year if we do go down than say Wigan, who due to not being on sound financial footing, are now languishing in the relegation zone due to their worse position as a club at the time of relegation. Therefore I think the good position as a club is far from meaningless. 

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Gonna be very tough. Taking an average from the last 5 seasons we would need approximately 38 points to survive (another 21 points so that's 7 wins or whatever combination of draws and wins)

We have 14 games left:

Arsenal (A)

Everton (A)

Chelsea

Man City (A)

Hull

Tottenham (A)

West Ham

West Brom (A)

Swansea

Burnley (A)

Newcastle

Southampton

Sunderland (A)

QPR

Its all good saying we are only 3 points behind but you have to bear in mind other teams still have as much a chance as we do of picking up points. You have to look at the bigger picture. It's of course still possible but it's also hard to see where we would get our wins to make up the points. I'm gonna try my best to stay optimistic!

It won't take 38 points this season

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You can't lose at home to palace, west Brom and Stoke without scoring, and fail to beat Sunderland and burnley of you want to survive. Home games are pivotal and we haven't took advantage.

I won't give up but I'm not far away. We need a bit of luck and need to hope we are still within touching distance by the time we've played Man City to have any chance.

 

This.

Our homes games against Palace, Stoke, Sunderland, Villa & Albion have yielded just one goal.

34 points will probably keep us up but quite frankly with the exception of home wins against Hull & QPR and an away win at Burnley (possibly) where are the other eight points coming from. Let's see where we are after the Man City game but I suspect we may well be more than three points adrift and whilst it remains three we can hope but any more than that is unrealistic for me.

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I think it's this simple. .Our run in isn't too bad. But we MUST enter that run in having enough points at that time to give us a chance.

The further off 17th we get, the more difficult it becomes.

If we start that run in of the final 6 or 7 games well off 17th, it'll be over anyway.

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We're not down yet but it will take a very unusual set of results to keep us up.  We now have little chance of making 35 points plus this season, even with a change of form and fortune.  Our only realistic chance of survival is if our relegation rivals have a poor run of results through to the end of the season and end up around the 30 point mark.  It's unlikely but not impossible.

 

We can claim bad luck and poor refereeing decisions until we're blue in the face, these are factors but successful teams manage to find ways to scrape points in adversity, failures lose matches they should have won.  We just haven't performed well enough thus far this season.

 

I haven't lost hope but I have lost the expectation that I had in September that we would accumulate enough points to survive.

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Hopefully the few that were still in denial can now accept it and the whole club (fans, players, manager) can focus on our very real opportunity to win the FA cup this season.

 

So survival in the Premiership is a pipedream but winning the FA Cup which contains nine other top flight clubs in the last sixteen including Man Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool is a distinct possibility?

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