willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson
Trav Le Bleu Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson Do you mean "Pearson is more reactive than proactive?" Because that sentance makes more sense. People keep saying "Pearson always picks his favourites", but I would find it hard to say who they are, because he changes the team too much. I'd rather he had a fixed XI that he only deviated from by necessity.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Why do people think we're going to be significantly worse off if we do get relegated? It's a view a lot of people have but no-one has an explanation for, it's just assumed to be true. I find it rather ridiculous to suggest that a season in the PL can make you worse off - that can't be it. The thing that makes you worse off is bad club management i.e. jumping on the managerial merry-go-round, wholesale changes etc.
Finchy Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson Yeah cheers Pearson for getting us here in the first place.
weller54 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yeah cheers Pearson for getting us here in the first place. ...whoopy.. For one season!!!!
Fox92 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson You mean "cheers Pearson" the man who guided us here after those certain ten years. We haven't blown it at all, we aren't relegated yet ffs it's February. It's not over until it's mathematically impossible. Support the club, the team, the management instead of constantly moaning.
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Well one of Pardew's subs was clearly forced. Without doubt the other, Sanogo, made a difference. However, were Palace that much better in the second half? We wasted as many, if not more, chances in the second half as we did in the first half. Yesterday was down to missed opportunities, pure and simple. I'm not going to hail Pardew when really the win was more down to luck than it being a good away performance (much like our wins at Stoke and Hull).
StanSP Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 ...whoopy.. For one season!!!! Which is more than any other manager could manage in the 10 seasons before. What more could Pearson have done last season?! Enlighten me, please!
weller54 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Which is more than any other manager could manage in the 10 seasons before. What more could Pearson have done last season?! Enlighten me, please! Last season?.. It's not what he could of done better last season.. It's what he SHOULD have done better THIS season!... Team selection, substitute decisions, buying the right quality players in the summer transfer window and perhaps keeping his cool on the touchline would also help??
EnglishOxide Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson So we get to half time. We have dominated the first half. As a manager, what would you have done to start the second half? Bear in mind that Pearson isn't a ****in mind reader and that he can see that Palace are going to bring on two players.
DennisNedry Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Pearson only normally makes changes when we go behind which is frustrating. You just knew that Kramaric was never going to get a sniff as soon as Palace put every man behind the ball. He did the same against Stoke.
Gerard Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 My criticism of Pearson is that he doesn't know his best team. We could field two XI's and there wouldn't be a lot of difference between the two. In fact you could argue that we haven't got one player who would be a definite pick for the first XI. Under O'Neill half our team was top quality, the other half was decent but we had no depth. At least with a squad like this it was easy to identify where improvements should be made but O'Neill failed to buy the right players with mediocre to poor buys with the likes of Fenton, Gunnalagsonn, Sinclair, Impey, etc. Not taking £5mil for what is now without question our 4th choice striker is also a mistake. Especially as he's 28 and not performed at this level. With speed being his biggest asset he will start to deteriorate in the next 2-3 years. I also think Krameric is a very good player but not suited to us, he would thrive at a club like Arsenal. Ulloa and Krameric won't compliment each other which means we will have a substitute that costs the best part of £10mil. For me there is no real strategy for tactics and team development.
Webbo Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Why do people think we're going to be significantly worse off if we do get relegated? It's a view a lot of people have but no-one has an explanation for, it's just assumed to be true. I find it rather ridiculous to suggest that a season in the PL can make you worse off - that can't be it. The thing that makes you worse off is bad club management i.e. jumping on the managerial merry-go-round, wholesale changes etc. The psychological blow of relegation, the better players moving on, the fringe players knowing that if we are promoted again they won't be playing in the prem, the pressure of expectation of promotion, a losing mentality. Do you need anymore?
ADK Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yeah, when you are creating chance after chance you should totally make 2 subs at half time. That's clearly the right thing to do. I couldn't believe Pearson didn't make the changes as soon as we looked like scoring.
willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Author Posted 8 February 2015 That was an example. I am relating to the whole season! we wait for something to happen before a change is made! more times than not its then too late. We took too long to make any changes, the majority of the fans could see what was needed ! Please tell me a game where we have made a change in tactics/subs during a game that has changed the course of the game in our favour? PEARSON is not a premiership manager, it’s so obvious to see! If we cannot beat Palace, stoke at home we don’t deserve to stay up. Same old story game after game... play with heart, "try hard"... "fine margins" etc. It’s a result business! And we are bottom! The worst team in the league FACT! Remember Pearson’s saying " We are better than Burnley in every way" ..... REALLLY?
Babylon Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I have never left a game so frustrated then i was yesterday. Chance after chance after chance!!! What I don’t understand is Pearson’s decision making, always waits for something to happen before he makes a change. The difference yesterday were the 2 subs palace made at half time, totally changed the game. Pearson is too reactive then proactive! That’s why we are getting relegated this season, not because of the squad but the fact we have no plan B. I actually think we have the squad to stay up this year but to many team selections that have been wrong!! Going to enjoy the rest of the season now as it may be another 10 years before we are back in the premiership! we had a great opportunity and we have blown it!! Cheers Pearson So we dominated the first half and should have been a couple up... the obvious answer would be... to change our formation and players?? Come on. Even after the Palace changes we still had more than enough chances to win the game.
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 That was an example. I am relating to the whole season! we wait for something to happen before a change is made! more times than not its then too late. We took too long to make any changes, the majority of the fans could see what was needed ! Please tell me a game where we have made a change in tactics/subs during a game that has changed the course of the game in our favour? PEARSON is not a premiership manager, it’s so obvious to see! If we cannot beat Palace, stoke at home we don’t deserve to stay up. Same old story game after game... play with heart, "try hard"... "fine margins" etc. It’s a result business! And we are bottom! The worst team in the league FACT! Remember Pearson’s saying " We are better than Burnley in every way" ..... REALLLY? Off the top of my head: Stoke (A) Liverpool (A) - although I think that was rather forced Everton (H) - Wood scored the equaliser Spurs (A) in the FA cup Anyway, I think Nige's subs this season have been too late and too reactionary as well. However, I wouldn't see Pardew as some sort of genius for his changes yesterday. I don't think they had that much impact on the game and one of them was forced. That last highlighted bit is rubbish as well. As important as those games are it's not who you beat that matters, it's the number of points you get, no matter how you get them. We are failing on that front as well but I'm not going to agree that if we don't beat teams like Palace and Stoke at home then we don't deserve to stay up. That's a ridiculous statement.
willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Author Posted 8 February 2015 So we dominated the first half and should have been a couple up... the obvious answer would be... to change our formation and players?? Come on. Even after the Palace changes we still had more than enough chances to win the game. it was an example of a team making changes to affect the game in their favour. it’s been happening all season! Pearson has not got the know how to do that. Big difference between premiership managers and championship managers. Just ask Steve Coppell,Nigel Adkins,Ian Holloway,Neil Warnock,Brian McDermott. They can all get a team into the prem but lack that quality! and i am afraid to say Pearson falls in that same group.. After all the results back my opinion up ay?
weller54 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 That was an example. I am relating to the whole season! we wait for something to happen before a change is made! more times than not its then too late. We took too long to make any changes, the majority of the fans could see what was needed ! Please tell me a game where we have made a change in tactics/subs during a game that has changed the course of the game in our favour? PEARSON is not a premiership manager, it’s so obvious to see! If we cannot beat Palace, stoke at home we don’t deserve to stay up. Same old story game after game... play with heart, "try hard"... "fine margins" etc. It’s a result business! And we are bottom! The worst team in the league FACT! Remember Pearson’s saying " We are better than Burnley in every way" ..... REALLLY? Can anyone honestly think we can go to Burnley and get anything from the game?.. Despite their fighting spirit I think they'll still be relegated along with us and QPR...
willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Author Posted 8 February 2015 Off the top of my head: Stoke (A) Liverpool (A) - although I think that was rather forced Everton (H) - Wood scored the equaliser Spurs (A) in the FA cup Anyway, I think Nige's subs this season have been too late and too reactionary as well. However, I wouldn't see Pardew as some sort of genius for his changes yesterday. I don't think they had that much impact on the game and one of them was forced. That last highlighted bit is rubbish as well. As important as those games are it's not who you beat that matters, it's the number of points you get, no matter how you get them. We are failing on that front as well but I'm not going to agree that if we don't beat teams like Palace and Stoke at home then we don't deserve to stay up. That's a ridiculous statement. Whats our record like against teams around us? Says it all
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 So we dominated the first half and should have been a couple up... the obvious answer would be... to change our formation and players?? Come on. Even after the Palace changes we still had more than enough chances to win the game. Exactly Babylon. We had the same number of chances (maybe even more) after Pardew's subs and change in tactics. They did little to alter the pattern and course of the game.
willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Author Posted 8 February 2015 Exactly Babylon. We had the same number of chances (maybe even more) after Pardew's subs and change in tactics. They did little to alter the pattern and course of the game. they came and produced a good away performance. as did stoke, west brom, burnley etc.
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Whats our record like against teams around us? Says it all Ok so completely change the topic to suit your own point of view. I'm not trying to defend our results at all, they've been abysmal. You said the 2 subs were the difference, I disagreed but also said I agreed with you that Pearson is too reactionary. You can't just stick in another random thing about our record against teams around us...
willparsons1988 Posted 8 February 2015 Author Posted 8 February 2015 The frustrating thing is that we have the squad and quality to stay in this league 1000%! The problem is the tactics,selections, etc
ADK Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I think we're rubbish because Pearson refuses to consort with extra-terrestrials and is rumoured to have once been a fan of pagan metal music. Don't tell me that's nonsense, the results back up my opinion.
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