SpacedX Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 What reputation?! I don't think he made a "blinding series of errors" either. Pretty harsh appraisal of an exceptionally good goalkeeper. His performance against Man City was top class. As I have said in other threads though, anything bad happens and people like you will find a way, some way, of causally linking it to Nigel Pearson. Who mentioned Scheiße?...I was talking about Kasper No, people like me are inconsequential subscribers to an online forum - I do nothing of the kind. Nigel Pearson is causally linked to 'anything bad that happens' very simply through his own actions - he needs no help from anyone else. One of the few things that he can actually accomplish on his own, other than commuting from Sheffield and tying his shoelaces.
lifted*fox Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Very true Col, Top and his old man, I've said it all along, they can't run a football club.
shailen Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Sometimes you can blame the tactics and say the team selection is wrong. What you cannot disregard is the poor finishing and comical defending we have shown this season at times. In general the players have done okay, but where it matters they have not delivered. As for the tactics, we have tried 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-4-1-1 and 5-4-1. Systems and tactics are all good and well, but if the players don't deliver what's the point. Pearson does take some of the blame naturally, because he's the manager. No other reason for me. It's like Moyes at United. Nothing wrong with his tactics, but the players wouldn't perform. Let's be real and honest, ultimately Pearson will and possibly should get the blame. However, it's obviously been a case of players not performing Anyone not currently in the team that you would play? Albrighton maybe has a case , but otherwise anyone when called upon hasn't performed. Defensively or Offensively. The team he has out now is sadly our best team. Not doubting their quality but most players have severely underperformed since United at home
red5 Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 No it's pretty simple really upson Morgan Huth CB RDL right back schlupp was playing left back ( not midfield ) they was not in any midfielder role closest to it was wing backs , cambiasso James CM, vardy mahrez on the wings , kramaric ST that gives you a formation of 5221 , it's not a formation to win games it's a formation to park the bus there is no 343 in there because if there was albrighton would of started ahead of delaet , but if anyone seriously think there was not 5 at the back need to either go to games any games or atleast watch them What game did you watch with Kramaric as ST
Stadt Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 NP has made a lot of mistakes this season but it seems everyone is totally blaming him for this season whereas it seems no one is mentioning how poor our players have been this season, from our three keepers, defenders, midfielders and attackers everyone has played poorly and show they are championship players at best apart from maybe Huth as he is the only decent CB we have and he isnt ours
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Who mentioned Scheiße?...I was talking about Kasper No, people like me are inconsequential subscribers to an online forum - I do nothing of the kind. Nigel Pearson is causally linked to 'anything bad that happens' very simply through his own actions - he needs no help from anyone else. One of the few things that he can actually accomplish on his own, other than commuting from Sheffield and tying his shoelaces. I think it's fairly clear that in this context, "causally linking" means the act of describing a perceived causal link between two things, rather than actually forcing a causal link between two things as some kind of omnipresent arbiter watching over them and controlling them. I mean, why the frig would I even attempt to claim something so abstract? Unless this is another of your attempts at being a troll? Not a bad one.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Don't really know what the OP is on about, there are threads lambasting players individually all over this section of the forum, I don't think anyone has not had a thread about them which has gone from 'playing well, top player' to 'drop him, absolute waste of space, pathetic' etc. Too many players underperformed too often. There have been some diamonds in the rough though I think Cambiasso, Was and Mahrez have all played more good games than bad this season, but there are still threads on them with posters saying they're an embarrassment. Just look at Kramaric, comes and plays well playing a role he isn't used to, what a bargain at £8m or whatever he was, 2 bad games and he's a waste of money we'll never get back.
MC Prussian Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Very true Col, Top and his old man, I've said it all along, they can't run a football club. They've done such a terrible job that we didn't even got promoted to the Premier League under their guidance (and with their patience). Note: I just remembered that it's not just Top and Vichai running this club - they're part of a larger conglomerate and oftentimes act as the sole public representation. Maybe it'd be healthy for others to remember that fact, too. Mandarić sold the club to a Thai-led consortium named Asian Football Investments (AFI) fronted by King Power Group's Vichai Raksriaksorn. But again, just like with putting the blame on the manager alone when the actual issue is much more complex, it's easier to simplify facts so they suit your own argument.
red5 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 They've done such a terrible job that we didn't even got promoted to the Premier League under their guidance (and with their patience). We are in the Premier League, didn't you know?
MC Prussian Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 We are in the Premier League, didn't you know? You claimed they "can't run a football club", when in essence, they can (as demonstrated by our promotion campaign).
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 19 March 2015 Posted 19 March 2015 Head hits desk. He signed them, he trains them, he picks the side, he motivates them. Look at the difference that Tim Sherwood has had with the same group of players in just a few weeks. The manager has full responsibility for a side's success or failure (over a long enough time to even out the odd blip in luck). THIIIIIS Close thread - definitive answer by above poster.
SpacedX Posted 19 March 2015 Posted 19 March 2015 I think it's fairly clear that in this context, "causally linking" means the act of describing a perceived causal link between two things, rather than actually forcing a causal link between two things as some kind of omnipresent arbiter watching over them and controlling them. I mean, why the frig would I even attempt to claim something so abstract? Unless this is another of your attempts at being a troll? Not a bad one. Why the frig indeed? Unless it was another one of your attempts to appear clever? Not a good one.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 19 March 2015 Posted 19 March 2015 when a keeper makes a blinding series of errors, when a defender consistently week in week out loses his man, when an attacker fails to find the target and hits a goal drought and yet they consistently remain in the starting XI in spite of obvious glaring shortcomings, then yes, you question the management. Further when selection, formation and tactics are so utterly atrocious that they inhibit the performance and potential of several key players - again the manager is liable. If the manager is as obnoxious and thick as shit pie, as appears to be the case, then I would further suggest that careers and club can be irreparably damaged. This man is toxic and he needs to be immediately removed before he further tarnishes our reputation. THIS
iancognito Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Yes he is. It also does not help that he KEEPS picking them again and again. His responsibility 100% and 100% inability to learn from his own mistakes. Gravel Throat at Burnley keeps playing the same players again and again, they've only won 2 out of their last 12 but at least their fans have a sense of perspective
iancognito Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 when a keeper makes a blinding series of errors, when a defender consistently week in week out loses his man, when an attacker fails to find the target and hits a goal drought and yet they consistently remain in the starting XI in spite of obvious glaring shortcomings, then yes, you question the management. Further when selection, formation and tactics are so utterly atrocious that they inhibit the performance and potential of several key players - again the manager is liable. If the manager is as obnoxious and thick as shit pie, as appears to be the case, then I would further suggest that careers and club can be irreparably damaged. This man is toxic and he needs to be immediately removed before he further tarnishes our reputation. Yep, the same manager who 1.) dropped Hamer after he was responsible for Tottenham's winner and then lost the ability to kick in a straight line at home to Stoke 2.) dropped Moore after he was responsible for 4 or 5 goals through poor positioning and losing his man 3.) dropped Ulloa after a piss-poor run of form where he barely registered a shot let alone and goal and also Vardy who just wasn't getting near to a goal 4.) tactics and formations so atrocious? When we played 442 people moaned we were too open, when he changed it to 451 and 541 we're too defensive? And I wouldn't say that a man who's got us two promotions and two play-off finishes in his 5 years here is toxic. I'd more look at the people like you, Dangerous Tiger, Monsell, 5waller5 etc who go strangely quiet when we enjoy any measure of success here but then we have a shit season and your post count goes through the roof. Sing when you're winning? More like type when we're losing. Occasionally, things go wrong, players don't step up a level, managers play formations that don't work and the club has a shit season. It's one season of failure after a relatively successful period. Suck it up and accept it, it's football, shit happens.
Monsell1976 Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Yep, the same manager who 1.) dropped Hamer after he was responsible for Tottenham's winner and then lost the ability to kick in a straight line at home to Stoke 2.) dropped Moore after he was responsible for 4 or 5 goals through poor positioning and losing his man 3.) dropped Ulloa after a piss-poor run of form where he barely registered a shot let alone and goal and also Vardy who just wasn't getting near to a goal 4.) tactics and formations so atrocious? When we played 442 people moaned we were too open, when he changed it to 451 and 541 we're too defensive? And I wouldn't say that a man who's got us two promotions and two play-off finishes in his 5 years here is toxic. I'd more look at the people like you, Dangerous Tiger, Monsell, 5waller5 etc who go strangely quiet when we enjoy any measure of success here but then we have a shit season and your post count goes through the roof. Sing when you're winning? More like type when we're losing. Occasionally, things go wrong, players don't step up a level, managers play formations that don't work and the club has a shit season. It's one season of failure after a relatively successful period. Suck it up and accept it, it's football, shit happens. Sorry pal, you've got me mixed up with someone else, I'm on here win, lose or draw.I praised him for last season, knew it was going to be hard this season, and was patient with him, till after Christmas. When he's done well he earns his plaudits, and when he's performed and behaved like he has this season, he deserves criticism, nothing complicated, nothing personnel, I want the best for the club I support, and this season, he is clearly not the best for the club, in the league we are in.
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