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Silverdaz

Can't believe the players are getting off scot free

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NP has made a lot of mistakes this season but it seems everyone is totally blaming him for this season whereas it seems no one is mentioning how poor our players have been this season, from our three keepers, defenders, midfielders and attackers everyone has played poorly and show they are championship players at best apart from maybe Huth as he is the only decent CB we have and he isnt ours

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Yes NP picked them but hes not responsible for them playing poorly when they step over that white line

Yes he is. It also does not help that he KEEPS picking them again and again.

 

His responsibility 100% and 100% inability to learn from his own mistakes.

Posted

Head hits desk.

 

 

He signed them, he trains them, he picks the side, he motivates them.

 

Look at the difference that Tim Sherwood has had with the same group of players in just a few weeks. 

 

The manager has full responsibility for a side's success or failure (over a long enough time to even out the odd blip in luck).

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So is he responsible for a keeper making a mistake, a defender losing his man, a midfielder misplacing a pass or an attacker missing a goal no hes not, even if we changed managers we would still have the same standard championship players but people are just blinked in there digust at the manangers performance this season.  Say you did a bad day at work and made a mistake that cost the company a load of money is that your manangers responsibilty for you doing something wrong.

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I blame Wellens. ( No I don't really ). He was crap from the day he started. It wasn't his fault Pearson kept picking him, so you can't blame Wellens because he was crap. You can only blame the chump who kept picking him.

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So is he responsible for a keeper making a mistake, a defender losing his man, a midfielder misplacing a pass or an attacker missing a goal no hes not, even if we changed managers we would still have the same standard championship players but people are just blinked in there digust at the manangers performance this season.  Say you did a bad day at work and made a mistake that cost the company a load of money is that your manangers responsibilty for you doing something wrong.

Who brought in the players???????????????????????/

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Who brought in the players???????????????????????/

whats that got to do with them making mistakes on the pitch hes not responsible for them passing to the opposition he doesnt go out and say 'You know what Matt just pass it to the opposition' or 'You know what Ben kick the ball straight out into touch'

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Next thing 'silverdaz' is going to tell us is that managers don't matter, it is all down to the players. Either they are good enough to win the title or bad enough to get relegated. The manager has got naff all to do with.

 

Oh, I see now! Silly me. I have been watching football for decades now and I never realised it doesn't matter who the manager is. Brilliant business as well to pay a manager £1 million pounds, when it doesn't matter if he is any good or not.

 

It all makes sense now.

 

"Beam me up Scotty!"

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whats that got to do with them making mistakes on the pitch hes not responsible for them passing to the opposition he doesnt go out and say 'You know what Matt just pass it to the opposition' or 'You know what Ben kick the ball straight out into touch'

Daz, maybe the players simply aren't very good and shouldn't be playing at this level.

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So is he responsible for a keeper making a mistake, a defender losing his man, a midfielder misplacing a pass or an attacker missing a goal no hes not, even if we changed managers we would still have the same standard championship players but people are just blinked in there digust at the manangers performance this season. Say you did a bad day at work and made a mistake that cost the company a load of money is that your manangers responsibilty for you doing something wrong.

He's not responsible if its a one off mistake but when he repeatedly chooses the same players after they've made not one but several mistakes then yes the blame does fall solely at his feet

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What grinds my gears is the fact he comes out week after week defending them. They need a kick up the arse not praising, they don't deserve to be praised. The players must be hugely confused, we are bottom of the league and playing rubbish, losing every week and all Pearson says is I thought we played well blah blah, they must be scratching their heads whilst asking themselves "so what we are doing is good enough?". Crap football management.

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Some might argue that Pearson's antics have kept the fans / media on his back rather than the players so he has been quite clever in this respect

 

Wether I would argue that is another matter

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What grinds my gears is the fact he comes out week after week defending them. They need a kick up the arse not praising, they don't deserve to be praised. The players must be hugely confused, we are bottom of the league and playing rubbish, losing every week and all Pearson says is I thought we played well blah blah, they must be scratching their heads whilst asking themselves "so what we are doing is good enough?". Crap football management.

perhaps he gives them hell in p rivate but he has to stick up for them pubically

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You'll never win this argument. It's like debating against a devoutly religious person. They start with a premise and then find a way to make literally anything look like evidence for that premise, and nothing will convince them otherwise. Whatever you say, there are people on this forum who without fail will make a causal link between it and Nigel Pearson.

 

Players performed badly? Pearson picked them. Bad finishing? Pearson has failed on the training ground. Players look like they lack motivation? Pearson's fault for not instilling them with drive and enthusiasm. Individual errors at the back? Pearson has played a new formation/players out of position/inconsistent combinations and made them nervous and panicky. Fans creating a poisonous atmosphere? Pearson has given them no reason to be positive. Referee makes bad decisions that cost us? Pearson shouldn't be making excuses and relying on refereeing decisions.

 

Believe me, there is not a single negative aspect of this season that will not ultimately turn out to be Pearson's fault. It's an unwinnable argument. You can try being balanced and reasonable if you want but expect to be derided and insulted for your sense of proportion. 

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Attention must turn to players

 

Like NP said, there just wasn't the attacking pressure he needed to see.

 

Previously in the 541, with the extra numbers at the back the attacking players should have joined in the attack more, but as we saw Mahrez & Schlupp failed to pour forward into the space created by Krameric's movement

 

Buck always stops with the manager who should replace the players if they're not doing what's required, but our problem is these players the best options available... We can point at lack of summer of investment all we like, but the situation we're in is where that policy has left us.

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Both the players and Pearson are as bad as each other.

 

The players are not performing to the best of their ability and Pearson continues to pick certain players despite the fact they have been performing badly.

 

I'll be glad when this season is finished. I was under no illusions at the start of the season, as I knew it would be tough but it has been a complete "snooze-fest" at times. I can't remember the last goal we scored at home. The players don't seem up for it and neither does the manager and because of that I've lost all interest. Thank you Leicester City Football Club.

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Disagree with most on here. 

 

Last season, the players shown us and Nigel - passion, potential and confidence. This season, 5 or 6 of them haven't stepped up. Nigel isn't solely to blame for this, in my opinion. The coaches, and loads of other backroom staff who should also shoulder some of the blame.  

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I think it's been cleared up by silver daz, pearson has been here for years now, assembled the players, who he's blaming for a shocking season, but it's not pearson fault.

This team don't look like a team, they look disjointed and lost, maybe due to lack of quality, no settled formation, due to pearson making it up as he goes along, or they are just as disillusioned with pearson, and his bizarre systems, selections, tactics, substitutions, and poor results every week, due to all of this.

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perhaps he gives them hell in p rivate but he has to stick up for them pubically

Great idea, confuse the players even more by being two faced. Being honest to the media works for Mourinho and gets the best out of the players at Chelsea. The players have performed crap virtually all season, the least they deserve is a public humiliation, it just might be the kick up the arse they need. It would certainly drive them on to prove Pearson wrong.

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I think it's been cleared up by silver daz, pearson has been here for years now, assembled the players, who he's blaming for a shocking season, but it's not pearson fault.

This team don't look like a team, they look disjointed and lost, maybe due to lack of quality, no settled formation, due to pearson making it up as he goes along, or they are just as disillusioned with pearson, and his bizarre systems, selections, tactics, substitutions, and poor results every week, due to all of this.

If you read my post I said yes NP has made mistakes and should be blamed but not entirely its the players fault as well as NP

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Nige doesn't send his strikers out to miss sitters, he doesn't send his midfielders to over hit passes and he doesn't send his defenders out to put the ball into their own net.

 

If it wasn't for individual errors from our players we wouldn't be in the bottom 3.

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What grinds my gears is the fact he comes out week after week defending them. They need a kick up the arse not praising, they don't deserve to be praised. The players must be hugely confused, we are bottom of the league and playing rubbish, losing every week and all Pearson says is I thought we played well blah blah, they must be scratching their heads whilst asking themselves "so what we are doing is good enough?". Crap football management.

 

 

perhaps he gives them hell in p rivate but he has to stick up for them pubically

 

 

Great idea, confuse the players even more by being two faced. Being honest to the media works for Mourinho and gets the best out of the players at Chelsea. The players have performed crap virtually all season, the least they deserve is a public humiliation, it just might be the kick up the arse they need. It would certainly drive them on to prove Pearson wrong.

 

Praise in public, criticise in private

 

Anyone who knows anything about management knows this is the way to maintain moral

 

Giving them hell after a match in a post-match interview, would see heads drop and then perhaps we'd see the thrashings that our position would indicate we should have had

 

There's an element of people hearing what they want to hear here too

 

Pearson has been quite critical of what's gone wrong in the pitch, but people on here just make out NP says this or says that... and don;'t actually listen to what he has said

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He's not responsible if its a one off mistake but when he repeatedly chooses the same players after they've made not one but several mistakes then yes the blame does fall solely at his feet

This pretty much sums it up.

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