bovril

well yeah I guess there's that. Still, death to America.

Honestly **** the US. I probably believe the Russians more than the Americans. At least the Russians don't cloak their imperial ambitions with so many words on freedom, democracy etc.

ffs i'm going to have make conversation again

Shame Ayew was flagged, 4 against Derby is an iconic scoreline

revolutionary stuff!

JJ is so good

A win at pride Park is always enjoyable

Is that Martin George?

Boiiiiinnggggg

We always piss it in this stadium

Oof, was getting 98 flashbacks then

A lot of it is just Francophobia from Anglos that live in soulless cities full of chains. Which restaurants and bars did you go to?

In England, Orient, because I go and watch them quite a bit. Probably enjoy it more than Leicester at the moment, but I could never really support them like I do lcfc. Outside England, I go and watch Palermo a few times every season but have found it harder to support them now they're owned by City group. King's Lynn is my local team but can't be doing with English non league.

Trump's ancestral country vs his least favourite

Obviously meant it as a joke but it's quite funny to see people post "what about Musa and Elvis Hammond"

@Trav Le Bleuracist confirmed

If I buy something from a clearly dodgy website, and ignore people who tell me it's a dodgy website, and the package never arrives, the problem is not that I "haven't been listened to".

I know, it was a rhetorical question. May's "red lines". I was trying to make the point that immigration sceptic voters have not been 'ignored' in the UK. We opted out of the single market and free movemtn because of them, which is hardly an insignificant decision.

And why did we leave the single market? Why do I now need to apply for a visa to move to an EU country?

Great when you've just come back from a holiday to France

None of the European countries have implemented policy as drastic as hard Brexit. I know this is all a bit awkward for Brits who like to think of their country as pragmatic and sensible compared to the Euros.

We need some more pro M&S posts like this. Tired of the slander on this website. Great wraps too.

"And influences policy" I realise you're going to say "yes but it wasn't about immigration" but leaving not just the EU but also the SM was obviously a significant policy shift and now people are talking about leaving the ECHR. None of the countries you list above have changed trajectory so significantly in order basically to try and placate anti immigration voters.

I do, yes. I wonder if there's another country in the world where immigration dominates political discourse and influences policy quite like it has done here. As always, interested in opposing views so feel free...

I love the idea that people have been ignored over immigration when it's all we've talked about for ten years and the government decided we could do without a few extra billion in growth every year because old people don't like to hear Polish spoken in their towns