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I was in the Kop and it was Vichai for us. So yes, it definitely did happen.
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Why are people trying to justify this? ‘I would take him over so and so…compared to so and s he’s a solid appointment…he’s not that bad’ We don’t owe the club permission to appoint someone because you can think of a worse manager in the world. This is a professional football club with a scouting network, we’ve been relegated for months and our shortlist is a parody. I don’t accept any of O’Neil, Wilder, Dyche, just as I didn’t accept RVN, Cooper or Martin. None of them deserve or will deserve the benefit of the doubt. This is my football club, we don’t exist to give some millionaire ‘a chance’. This isn’t a Saturday night game show. I want a serious manager with a future and there’s absolutely zero excuses for not having someone like that in place by now. If Rohl isn’t possible for some pathetic reason, I expect at least 3 managers on the shortlist far, far better than the ones named.
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The way things have gone it can’t go any worse if we just let the players democratically pick the team and tactics.
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Also because more modest clubs are now established in our place. It was the same when Wigan were winning the FA Cup and Bolton were in Europe etc. We can hardly say this is our level if Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth are where they are. Our fanbase is top 15 and most clubs our size have won the league and cup anyway. Our success just happened 30-40 years after everyone else’s.
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If we get promoted and recruit like we did in the summers of 2003 and 2024 then it will be worse than not getting promoted. We will continue to decline in the long run until we can’t bounce back and will then be further crippled like we were 2004-08. We cannot, cannot continue to bring ageing players in for high fees and on high wages. Finding bargains, players with potential, is something we’ve done before whilst balancing the books. The style of play and type of player we bring in to suit that style absolutely is important. If Dyche goes down the Cooper route it will be a poisoned chalice even if we go up.
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So experience for the sake of experience? Yeh because we’re really short on that in the squad…
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Ruud Van Nistelrooy - Sacked - Official
Kitchandro replied to moore_94's topic in Leicester City Forum
Not sure why anyone feels sorry for him. He acted like he didn’t want to be here. He didn’t change things up, never looked angry with defeats / thrashings, continued to play the old boys whilst saying he was planning for the future, never acknowledged the fans, did no homework whatsoever on our squad (leading to him playing Ward). Slaughter the club for how they treat us, not multi-millionaire managers. -
I just think it’s incredibly unimaginative as usual. People say ‘who can we realistically attract’ - well, if you don’t narrow your options down to obvious names then there’s 100s of managers out there who would come. The problem is, if you’re picking from only established managers / names / ‘experience’ then you are going to be limited to coaches whose ceilings are already known. Obviously I’d rather a manager picked purely on tactical philosophy and man-management skills. Dyche only seems acceptable to some people because of the very short list our club would pick from. Yeh compared to Martin or RVN it would be a relief but if I’m lowering myself to the standard of actually saying I’m ‘pro-Dyche’ then what on earth has this club come to. If we still demand LCFC to be a professional sports outfit (which we should fgs) then a has-been like Dyche is completely unacceptable.
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We signed some good players under him but that’s as much to do with the backroom staff under him. He was a poor manager and for me, the sort that was only here for the money. He was less manipulative than Rodgers but equally disrespectful of the club, saying we couldn’t expect to compete with Wolves at one point. He never had any ambition to get the best out of the players we had. He was happy to sit midtable, play weak sides in the cup and just coast along, playing down our potential to make himself look better. It was a genius move by Rodgers to come in after an underperforming and unpopular manager had just left. He knew that team couldn’t do much worse.
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In time the delusion and emotion would fade and people would be forced to look at things as they are. Fans are sentimental whilst people are here and less so after they leave. People defended Kermorgant, Puel, Sousa, Megson and probably even Akinbiyi and Tater Peeler once. Once you’re in the past and have been painted the villain it’s almost Impossible to reverse it. And there’s just no way Top’s reputation can withstand what’s happened in the long run. But whilst he’s here, he’ll have his loyal followers.
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I would love Bielsa here. His reputation in England outside of Leeds is strangely bad but they love him and so would we. I think I read he didn’t want to manage another English club though.
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If we get -12 and keep Ruud we will be going to League One.
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It’s this one. The font is much better and all the details are spot on. The Fox & Crop is the next best.
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Then I suggest you read what Middlesbrough fans think of him. He’s accused of being too slow and predictable and having no plan B. They’ve gone backwards for 2 seasons and they feel the squad was good enough to finish much higher than teams they’ve finished behind. A firm no to Carrick from me. If he isn’t good enough for them, he’s not good enough for us.
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Same, I don’t see the point in letting good rum go to waste. I still have two empty bottles and they have as much sentimental worth as full ones to me.
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2 things can be true at once, real life is nuanced. Yes the club is run extremely poorly in almost every aspect. And no, Rodgers was not speaking accurately or honestly when he was claiming he wasn’t backed. In fact it’s obvious to me that we threw all the money we had on him and his scouting ideas, which didn’t pay off and led to our downfall. We did need a refresh - we needed to sack him, Rudkin and Congerton and learn how to scout better players, managers and…scouts. Clearly our recruitment has been horrendous, but no one can say we weren’t backed financially. The issue is we backed fools to spend the money - Rudkin, Rodgers, Congerton, Cooper. My biggest gripe over the last 5 years in the media narrative is that Rodgers got a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, it was the opposite.
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We improved with an underperforming side for the first year and then stagnated and declined consistently for 2 and a half years. We were very good in certain games because we had very good players, and in even more games we were bang average and the players would get us out of jail with a moment of magic. The football was generally horrible to watch, people only remember the highlights. How can the best manager we’ve ever had completely destroy the club with negative football, dreadful signings and disrespect? There’s a great argument to say he’s up there with Taylor with the worst we’ve ever had. The trajectory is extremely similar, so why do we not laud Taylor for having us in the top 3 for most of the season yet you do with Rodgers? Personally, I’d have pulled the plug on him as well if he spent that £200m on the players that he did. He was backed to the hilt and deserved no more backing after saddling us with so many poor players and failing to make the top 4. Many managers have got more out of less quality at the club when they joined. Little, O’Neill, Pearson, Claudio. These are our best managers because they got the best out of what they had. Rodgers did the opposite. Rodgers did a Taylor.
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And also, just out of respect for everyone - why not just say what’s happening? ‘Ruud will be released from his contract at such-and-such date. We are currently looking for a new long-term replacement’. Just be honest about what’s going on. Let Ruud get on with the res of his life and make it clear you are doing something.
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Way earlier. We were in decline for nearly 3 seasons. The Forest hammering away in 2022 (a Championship side!) would have been the final nail at any other club. That was when he invented the ‘not been backed’ myth and started publicly undermining the club. Any self-respecting club would have got rid and realised that he didn’t know how to arrest the slide.
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And he’s also on record saying he shinned it. I mean, it’s on the video. Look at the technique. If he hits it cleanly it goes straight at Martin. The flight of the ball doesn’t suggest a clean hit and that’s why the goalkeeper is rooted. If you slow that video down it’s obvious it comes off the bottom of his shin. I’m not taking anything away from the guy but his first reaction was his most accurate one.
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He definitely does. Slow down the replay and you can clearly see it comes off the shin just above his boot. You can tell by the way it goes in he didn’t hit it cleanly. He gets his head over the ball and everything but it spins up.
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Like you, I’m only really interested in Leicester, maybe the World Cup and Euros cos of the occasion. I just think there’s more to life than football. I’ve spent plenty of time and money on it, seen us in League One and the Champions League. It’s made me frustrated, disillusioned, bored and angry more often than not over the last few years and it’s only gonna get worse. I can never completely get rid of it, and still enjoy talking about it to distract me from uni work. But I won’t be tuning in until there’s something worth tuning in for. Too much wasted time getting annoyed about people who don’t take their jobs or the sport seriously.
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Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official
Kitchandro replied to moore_94's topic in Leicester City Forum
lmao. Is that the face he was pulling when he said that ridiculous line? How was anything we did yesterday ‘important’ when we lost 2-0 and were relegated anyway. It’s stuff like this that make people think he’s taking the mick. -
Aside from all that, Top…I’d expect a good up and coming manager to want to join us. You know, the kind we’ve done our due diligence on, research into tactics, man management style, references from those who’ve worked with him, even fan opinions from clubs he’s managed. You’re speaking as if we need the manager to be established. We don’t, he can be someone looking for a big break. Loads of managers would want to come here to forge a reputation. Loads. What matters is, do they have a good philosophy and right character. That’s how Pearson and Walsh used to scout players - it’s how we should scout managers.
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What type of football do people want to watch?
Kitchandro replied to Sly's topic in Leicester City Forum
The opposite, basically. Ideally, I want two essential things: one is pressing to win the ball back (most goals don’t come from playing out the back). Second, and most of all, I want to see is play at a high tempo. That’s what makes the game entertaining and it’s what leads to scoring chances. I want us to play with some cojones like we really want to win, rather than being scared to lose. Have possession, don’t have possession, play it long, pass it short, have inverted full backs, have one up front, two up front, 6 up front - it doesn’t matter. But play with pace and bravery, take calculated risks in pursuit of goals and don’t make everything about your ego or brand. Just play football like you enjoy it and you believe in your own ability. Basically, play like us in 2015/16. I’d also like to add that winning is not the most important thing for me. We’ve won games under some recent managers (Puel, Rodgers and Enzo all had some good runs) but I wasn’t interested in paying to watch any of them. Nonetheless, a high tempo is essential whether you want to win or be entertained.
