urban fox

Do people not keep up? Loads still talking about Potter/Moyes but RL said yesterday that neither are of any interest to the club. Total silence from Moyes and Potter apparently "distancing himself" (ie the media making out that he doesn't want it as opposed to us not being interested) seems to bear this out. Personally think RVN is a done deal although wouldn't be surprised if someone not previously mentioned suddenly rocks up. If true what is being said re Top/Rudkin then would be more than happy to see a new DoF. The talk of Top seeking advice from a former manager post relegation, might point to NP?

Hmm. So some journos claiming Potter has said he is not interested, others that the club has been in talks with potential replacements, but not approached Potter. Personally more inclined to believe the latter. If he has turned us down before (or simply wouldn't commit within the timeframe, depending on which version you believe) then, as far as the club may be concerned, that ship has has sailed. Had his chance we move on. Having said that, watch him be announced tomorrow.

All these so called experts and pundits saying we acted hastily etc. After only 12 games. FFS we are a third of the way through the season with 10pts. Extrapolate that over a season and we are looking at 30pts, which is relegation. That doesn't take into account we have had a relatively easy fixture list.

I believe he had a bad injury and dropped out of the professional game. Played against him a few years back in the veterans league when he was turning out for the University team. Best player on the pitch by a country mile

BDCR cult hero when he grabs a 94th min 30yd screamer to shithouse a 1-0 win. You heard it here first.

They've gone practically full strength. RVN putting his application in for a job when Cooper finally gets sacked?

Been corrected now

Mines already empty lol.

Back in the seventies we had done a deal with Liverpool to sign John toshak. Unfortunately the striker failed a medical and we pulled the plug on the deal. Toshak returned to anfield and scored a hattrick in his next game I believe.

You would put your shirt on vards to Bury that

I get that improvements in technology with boots, balls and pitches have made a big difference, along with higher fitness levels etc and, whilst the "quality" and technique of players seems to be of a higher standard in the modern game some of that is down to the above The issue I have is that a lot of the spontaneity has been coached out of players in favour of "systems". but I suggest that players of yesteryear would Have shown similar levels if they were playing today. George Best for eg would have been unplayable on today's pitches. The mud paths of previous eras were a leveller and we got a more competitive games and "shock" results than we do nowadays

Danny ward our mom says it all really

No Vesty?

So the PL were so cocksure that they ruled the entire football pyramid that they assumed they could do what they liked and the rest of the leagues would just follow whatever they wanted. We proved that their jurisdiction only applied to their competition and that they do not rule the entire football system. They bleat on about us dodging a bullet because we pointed out the inadequacies and lack of joined up thinking in their rules and we have still breached the spirit of the rules. Unfortunately for them, the law is decided on what is written and if that is not what is meant, then that is their fault for not ensuring that the actual words match the intent. They have brought this on themselves with their own arrogance. We just highlighted it

In a recent interview he was saying how good things were and that he was enjoying some of the new things they were trying and looking forward to the challenge ahead. A few days later he is whinging and wanting out. I know it is only a job to these players and they are not invested like many fans but ffs sometimes they come across like spoilt kids at the first hint of anything that does not go their way. If he has no appetite for the fight, or wish to play for the shirt, then he can do one.

I have no idea whether the manger (past or present) thinks he is good enough or not, but the coaches see the players daily in training and will know far more than anyone on here what their abilities, fitness and shortcomings are. For all we know, he could be the next Messi or simply rubbish, unfit, carrying an injury, lacking confidence or a disruptive character. Whatever the case there is something that is not sitting right either with the player himself or the coaching staff. There have been no noises regarding any injury/fitness issues, neither does it seem that we are desperate to offload or that he is being touted, or pushing himself, for a move elsewhere. Perhaps the general feeling is simply that he is not ready for the PL but still one for the future.

Yeah right, like that ever happens. They are not called the Inland Robbery for nothing

Yeah basically put me out of business. Pay higher rate tax, with none of the benefits of a salaried employee, no longer able to claim travel or accommodation expenses, or become a salaried emoyee on half the money. The bit about having set up a UK company hints at this. Also does the old year+ a day rule still apply? If he returns to UK hmrc may want to claim UK tax on his foreign earnings for last year as well as him paying higher rate here than in Turkey for the current year. None of this is the clubs fault. We make an offer that we can afford, if he doesn't want to pay his tax then that is his decision. It would be foolish for us to make him our highest earner as a loan player

So its all gone Pete tong just because there has been no fanfare yet? Fab and Percy have both said it's practically done. I know there can always be last minute changes of heart from both sides but that does not make it automatically the club or Rudkins fault. When will people on here realise that contracts take time to be drafted, checked by lawyers etc, and signed. There are HR processes, inductions, relocation logistics, etc, to sort before any official announcements. Nobody moves jobs just like that without consulting family etc. If it happens it happens, no point in wetting the bed just cos five minutes have passed by since the last twitter post.

If he is here for less than a full Calender year he will pay tax in the country where he is employed. He will still be an employee of the parent club so effectively non-dom in the uk for tax purposes

Yeah. It was late but you get the drift

Apparently under Greek tax rules professional athletes only pay a flat rate 20% tax. In order that we don't have to gross up his wages to cover the extra tax he would pay in UK he will continue being paid by gala with us paying an enhanced loan fee to cover it.

This. I have no idea why so many seem to think we are skint. We have more than enough for at least a couple of decent signings. KP have never been stingy when it comes to splashing the cash, although we still need to be cautious re psr etc. Obviously we are not going to bid for every player we get linked with, and more than likely somebody will arrive out of the blue with little or no previous noise. I tend to think that most of the links are speculation and agent stories simply to push a players profile/price up and, in most cases we have no legitimate interest but are happy that it provides smokescreen for our real targets.

So we make public bids on ten other players, what happens if they are all accepted? We can't sign them all so we back out and look like idiots which no clubs or players would want to deal with in the future. That said I am pretty sure we have scoped out a few other potential deals which we may or may not pursue further. Why do you think we like to do our business quietly? To avoid just this situation and avoid getting into bidding wars.

Last posted in March. Not looking good. He will be sorely missed