urban fox

@RumbleFox wondered where you had got to of late.good for you making a stance but nice to see you back, always found your posts balanced and intelligent unlike so many on here

Big win please. GD could be crucial

That only works if a player is in last year of contract. If say there is two years left, amortised as £5m each year, sell for £2m, then the loss in the year of the sale is £8m, as opposed to £5m each year for 2 years. In other words, to reduce the actual loss in the year of sale you would need to sell for at least £6m to reduce the loss by £1m. Yes you make a saving against second year (plus wages) but that does not help in respect of psr for the year of sale, it makes it worse.

Ok, so we can still sell, but it is still an open invitation for other clubs to lowball us. The only way we would be able to keep a half decent squad would be to get those players out of contract to sign new, reduced deals before the end of June then as they would already be registered at the club. Not much chance of that though with agents in their ears with big fat signing on fees

I presume that a transfer embargo would be both ways, not just incomings. If so, is this a ploy to ensure that we cannot sell anyone after June 30 and, by default are stuck with unwanted, or unsold players wages and therefore almost guaranteed to breach elf psr the following season too if we don’t get promoted. all this will do is mean that other clubs can lowball us for those we need to get off the wage bill. In other words, sell in June, make a loss in this year and get points deducted, or keep on high wages and make a loss next year and get more points deducted. get promoted, and have points deducted in the PL and get relegated, where the EFL will be waiting for us with another points deduction. it all adds up to a massive stitch up. “We don’t want any more Leicester city’s”. I hope we go all guns blazing, fight them through every means possible and show the corruption for what it really is. We may well have broken the rules, but only in an attempt to be competitive, within the means of the club and its owners (no chance of going bust, which is what the rules purportedly are there to prevent) but this really is started to stink of a witch hunt. Time to stick it to the man.

Haha. Keith Weller special

With the ridiculous wages demanded these days, which are artificially inflated by what the big six will pay, there is absolutely no chance of the league ever being truly competitive again. One poor season or two, where you do not qualify for a European place and you are screwed by ffp the following year. An overall fixed squad salary cap is the only way this will ever be resolved

I would start with Stol hamza coady vesty doyle Winks wilf. Kdh Albrighton. Wanya Nacho Yunus, cannon, Fatawu, and mavs for wilf, Marc, nacho and wanya for last 30 (plus et if req). would rather see wilf start, get some decent minutes. If he comes on second half could end up playing more than intended if it goes to et. think is a game, if we are serious about it, where Enzo needs to be on it with his in game management and subs, especially if it’s tight and possibility of extra time. still want us to go strong and give it a real go. Can’t be doing with all this cr*p about resting or not risking players for the league. It’s a QF ffs, a win here is worth £2m in appearance and gate receipts for the semi. Those saying the cup will be there next year etc always seems to find a reason for to dismiss it. Beside we could draw Man City away in the 3rd round for the next god knows how many years. A cup run is always good

When the super league happens,the greedy six will simply set up A and B teams to compete in both SL and domestic competitions. One will then serve as a feeder for the other. If this happens, Any transfer of players between squads, must have a fee attached based on market value established by tribunal. Both squads must have separate accounting verified for ffp

When the dust settles and it’s revealed that half the PL have failed to meet the psr targets, there will be a sudden u-turn with them declaring that those targets have been adjusted to allow for inflation and that going forward the rules will be changed. the authorities are going to need to save face somehow or they will look pretty stupid when so many clubs start the season on negative points and the whole competitiveness of the league is brought into disrepute and questions start being asked about restrictions on trade, monopolies and cartels. can the clubs petition for a vote of no confidence in the league? What would happen if say six clubs tendered their resignations from the PL and applied to join the EFL (obviously never going to happen but would be fun to see the meltdown)

At the start of each season people keep saying that Vardy is past it, finished etc. Then tell us we need to find a twenty goal a season striker, who are not that easy to come by and cost a fortune, yet we already have one. His name? Jamie Richard Vardy.

Winning this game is worth around £2m. 450k for qf winners, losing semi finalists get 500k (£1m for winners) plus a share of Wembley gate receipts and TV money Could make a huge difference come june

I have a suspicion that several clubs gave early warnings of possible breaches to the PL hence their willingness to reduce Everton’s sanction, otherwise the bar would be set at 10pts and half the league would be starting at -10. If it transpires that half a dozen clubs get points deducted there will be a class action against the league from those clubs that the rules are not fit for purpose and govt will be forced to step in

Exactly. In the PL, you have to pay the wages to try and attract decent players and compete. If it goes pear shaped like it did for us and you get relegated, you are screwed. either you have to have a fire sale to get the high earners off the books, thereby making a book loss on those players transfer fees or, you are stuck with a high wage bill, even after relegation clauses, with massively reduced tv and sponsorship income. Either way you are almost bound to breach the lower threshold for elf, and even if you get promoted at the first go, those book losses on sales will bite you in the bum under pl rules. the only way I can see this being resolved is for an amnesty to be declared and a full reset of the rules

Said it earlier, Sky have an agenda against us and always favour the top clubs. I get it that they can argue that is where the biggest overseas interest etc is, and they want to maximise their ad revenue etc. The TV deal should be structured that all teams receive equal income regardless of no of appearances, or better still guaranteed equal air time thereby reducing exposure bias and creating a more equal playing field for sponsors etc.

So KP sell up to another billionaire who isn’t allowed to actually invest any cash into the team either due to the current, unsustainable rules. Where’s the difference, except that said new owners turn out to be asset strippers who fold the club, sell off the training ground, belvoir drive and the stadium to developers and do a runner with all the proceeds. Everyone seems to be piling onto the ownership, saying its their fault that we may have breached ffp etc, but what are they supposed to do when players refuse to move on, see out contracts or deals fall through at the last minute because a player at the buying club decides to stay put (Daka Bournemouth)

So, apparently Southampton are reportedly going to sue us if we get promoted and have breached the rules. We in turn are going to sue Everton. Meanwhile we, along with Everton (again), forest, villa, wolves, Chelsea, and possibly a few others face possible points deductions for next season. can someone please tell me how the whole system is not broken? the PL etc saw this coming, have likely already been informed by several clubs that they may potentially breach, hence the climb down and reduction in Everton’s points deduction. would love to see clubs effectively going on strike, refusing to fulfil fixtures until the whole mess is sorted out

So with 10 games to go, w8, d1, L1 = 25 pts which would leave us on 106 equalling Reading’s record. Anyone know what their goal difference was? We could take the record on GD.

Sky certainly seem to have an agenda against us. The way the deal is structured certainly benefits favouritism. How many times have we been their pick compared to Leeds for example this season, never mind the number of live games the so called big six get compared to the rest of the pl. Remember every appearance is mega bucks extra, so by keeping our appearance to a minimum we get less (not to mention when we are on the pundits are invariably biased to our opposition) the whole thing is rigged

Thing is, even with a salary cap, playing for one of the big clubs will attract better sponsorship deals etc for players so it only partly solves the issue. There are so many ways that the big clubs can manipulate how they pay their players (things like share options etc) but at least it would be step in the right direction.

Other clubs think that we may have breached ffp. An article in the sun, written by a Leeds supporting journo. whilst of course it may be entirely possible, if it does turn out to be the case then I would be surprised given the lack of activity in 2022, the business we did last summer and the fact that we did not have a fire sale in January. the article talks about us posting £140m losses but (assuming that is accurate) that would include interest payments on the training ground, admin and other costs exempted from ffp calculations I would imagine.

Coady, Albrighton and Vardy in for Nelson, mavadidi and Daka. Feel we need experience for this one. Marc will always put a shift in and can put early balls in for Vards, who despite what some say about being over the hill, was banging them in before his injury. Coady will steady the ship at the back and give Faes the opportunity to push on. Maybe Doyle for JJ too. We really miss Vesty's passing.

The next game is always the most important and every point on the board is worth the same as any other. play the strongest side possible, take the points and then reassess for next game. why rest players for the following game, who could then pickup an injury in training, fall ill etc and then not feature after all. We are in the final quarter of the season and this is not the time for wholesale changes. Being able to rotate is important as there will be injuries etc but the main thing is to maintain the balance of the side and keep momentum up. Our squad depth should give us the advantage in terms of in game changes to rest legs and tactical switches for certain games etc

Difference being Shilton would catch the corners or crosses rather than punch them. That said all keepers seem to prefer to punch than catch these days.

Yep, the figure the courts use when calculating fines is based on net and will also take into account mortgage/rent and other essential outgoings so his gross, bearing in mind he will be on the higher tax band will probably be around 3x that.