orangecity23

With Cooper no wins, obviously. Might scrap a draw versus Southampton, will lose the rest. On the table, definitely bottom 3, if not 20th.

As I said yesterday - even the useless bin men managers like Lampard and Gerrard who you wouldn't want in a million years have considerably better pl records than Cooper. This narrative of "who could you find who's better" is cobblers, as no matter what you do, it's not difficult to find someone who can beat our current incumbent and his 0% win ratio.

We'll have to take a few kick offs, surely.

He's definitely trolling us. Decided the problem was not enough Prem experience up front

Just ordered a Steve Cooper replica tracksuit with GAVE UP SEX 4 CHANCE OF CLEAN SHEET on the back.

Fun fact - Frank lampard's Everton stats - 12 wins in 44 games. Coopers pl stats - 12 wins in 60 games. Even Frank Lampard had better stats than Cooper.

He's a young, promising player, not the finished article. You can't really judge him until we've seen him play under a real manager and set of coaches who actually prepare a team and try to improve players, vs the current rabble of incompetents throwing a poorly prepared jumble onto the field with negative instructions and hoping to be "still in the game" with 20 minutes to go to maybe have a crack at scoring a goal.

Yesterday, I was thinking of making the point on here to the "give him time" brigade that Cooper is not the next O'Neill or Pearson, he's more like the next Steve Bruce. I ended up not doing that though, as I took a look at wiki and realised that Bruce actually won quite a few games in his various managerial tenures, and his record actually shits all over Cooper's. THATS how bad Steve Cooper's PL numbers are.

Not just that, his time here is basically hitting exactly the same kind of stats. Loses half his games, conceding about 2 goals every game, added to the endless run without wins that ended his time at Forest. There's nothing to suggest he will get better, or improve in future. He's doing what he previously did at this level - lose loads of games, and win very few - or currently - win none.

Don't worry, the extended highlights from the club will be along soon enough with it's 6 minutes of highlights before the game actually kicks off

I just can't see where a (league) win is coming from while he is our manager. He just sets up to waste 60-70 minutes of a match again and again, and for all the "pragmatism" he is supposedly introducing, not once does it yield a clean sheet, so we are always left chasing games at the end. The one time we actually had a lead this season, he still couldn't defend that properly eaither. Not once have we started with Mavididi and Fatawu at the same time this season. Mav had to sit on the bench for 3 league games while he dicked about with Bobby de cordova Reid, and now Fatawu is benched for a man who delivers 3 goals a season in a good year. Stephy's only started 2 games and already has 2 goals, imagine having that level of attacking threat and completely ignoring it for weeks.

I mean, that would be like delaying Everton's first PSR punishment so long, some other club got relegated instead of them ... oh wait.

This weeks Who Are you in goal form:

Oh, so now it makes sense. The case will be so big with the 115 charges, plus Man City cobbing the finest lawyers an unlimited supply of crude oil will buy, that when the lawyer bill comes in it turns out every club has failed PSR, because lawyers charge hundreds per hour just to read an email then not do anything about it, and the prem have been investigating for years. So Man City still win the title because we all end up with a points deduction.

He tried, but after watching all the old matches he got too distracted and reverted to his usual post game response:

A bit of quick googling / using the history section suggests this only really applies to Martin O'Neill. Ranieri won his first game vs Sunderland and started well, Pearson got off to a good start in both spells. Brian Little won his second game. O'Neill took over mid-season, didn't have an entire pre-season to get his team up to speed, but drew 5 and lost 2 in his first 7 before getting his first win. Which is still a better record than Cooper so far in the league. Rodgers won his second league game, Maresca won his first. Unless you had some older examples in mind, I'm struggling to think of any half successful managers here in the modern era who've had a worse start than Cooper.

After today, both teams will be trying to avoid going 2-0 up at all costs. Got 0-0, 999999 throw ins footballing war crime writen all over it, with both managers pleased to "get a clean sheet under their belt to build on".

If we don't beat Everton, I can't see where he gets a league win from. Maybe away at Southampton, but again, that's an away game and he has that abysmal away record at Forest and shows no signs of having a plan to do anything different here. in fact, everything seems the same as his stint at Forest - no tactical plan, constant demands for more signings, griping about offiicials and no sign of knowing how to win games of football.

When are we having our first decent attack then - after we're 1-0 down, or are we waiting until 2-0 down this time? If he wants to be pragmatic, here's a wild idea - how about trying to actually take a lead, then shutting up shop - you might shithouse a 1-0 win then. Instead, Cooper wants to set up like Homer Simpson's boxing career - just sit there and get hit and hope you land a lucky punch at the end.

Steve Cooper's approach to defensive midfielders:

I remember there being loads of second hand copies of zone of the Enders for cheap in the games shops in town at the time, as loads of people bought it to play the demo then traded it in. I got a cheap one and ended up really enjoying ZOE, even if it was a bit limited in places. The sequel was absolutely quality, loved that game. Most played demo had to be the one that came with my PS1, which had the Tekken 3 demo on it. Played it for ages until Mum bought me a used copy of Tekken 1, then gradually ended up getting 2 with pocket money ages later when it got cheap, then finally got 3 a year or so later. What a game.

I remember a few years back Norwich had a yellow and green 1st kit, a green and yellow 2nd kit and a yellow and green 3rd kit. There's surely an argument there they could have just had 1 kit

Like Tea for the Tielemans?

I suppose it might just be a coincidence, but if we do currently have an excellent crop of youngsters aged around 16ish, and they've been at the club since they were 8, that would mean they must have started around the title winning season. Can't have hurt to have that going on at the time, must have made the club look a hell of a lot more attractive than it had previously to kids around the expanded local area.

I say, good fellow from the BBC Sports Radio phone in. I would like to propose that my local team employs a new Football manager - GIRRITWALSHEHSOMONEWIRRABIRRAPASHUN.