Rincewind Posted 1 September 2015 Posted 1 September 2015 He wants to engage with the public to get more voting. Not just him but all Labour MP's and future candidates to bring back those that have been disallusioned with the party I hope the others are able to do it too.
The Railway Man Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 No offence but some of you lot have lost yer minds in here, Corbyn might drag a few votes back from the Green party but no one who actually has a stable job/income etc is seriously going to want him to run the country, he's an absolute disaster and would spell never ending Tory rule. The country needs an opposition to hold a government to account, not a protest party that been hijacked by a very small section of society.
Sir Fynwy Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 No offence but some of you lot have lost yer minds in here, Corbyn might drag a few votes back from the Green party but no one who actually has a stable job/income etc is seriously going to want him to run the country, he's an absolute disaster and would spell never ending Tory rule. The country needs an opposition to hold a government to account, not a protest party that been hijacked by a very small section of society. Most comparable countries with decent electoral systems have a range of parties which usually form coalition governments, these include moderate left and right parties and more radical left and right parties but our system produces mid ground politics with too large parties trying to appeal to all, I hope that both Labour and Conservatives break up over the next few years (the EU referendum will be difficult for the Tories) and we end up with politics that really represents the membership.
The Railway Man Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 Most comparable countries with decent electoral systems have a range of parties which usually form coalition governments, these include moderate left and right parties and more radical left and right parties but our system produces mid ground politics with too large parties trying to appeal to all, I hope that both Labour and Conservatives break up over the next few years (the EU referendum will be difficult for the Tories) and we end up with politics that really represents the membership. Problem is we don't have PR and probably never will while the Tories hold office, so someone like Corbyn running the second biggest political party leaves absolute no chance of a coalition being formed to challenge tyhe current government. (and added to that given the SNP would be needed I'd say it would be virtually impossible to form one without another indyref)
Jon the Hat Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 Our political system of government relies on having a strong opposition to hold the Government to account. Having a joker in charge of Labour will make life so easy for Cameron and co to do what they like, because he is not a serious politician. I mean come on, he is now saying that journalists quoting things he has said is not fair. Repeating back to him his positions on major political questions is something he thinks is unreasonable. Jesus. This is bad for the country, not just Labour.
Guest Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 Our political system of government relies on having a strong opposition to hold the Government to account. Having a joker in charge of Labour will make life so easy for Cameron and co to do what they like, because he is not a serious politician. I mean come on, he is now saying that journalists quoting things he has said is not fair. Repeating back to him his positions on major political questions is something he thinks is unreasonable. Jesus. This is bad for the country, not just Labour. Tough shit!
Guest Bilo Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 Tough shit! Incisive political commentary there.
Claridge Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 Most comparable countries with decent electoral systems have a range of parties which usually form coalition governments, these include moderate left and right parties and more radical left and right parties but our system produces mid ground politics with too large parties trying to appeal to all, I hope that both Labour and Conservatives break up over the next few years (the EU referendum will be difficult for the Tories) and we end up with politics that really represents the membership. Be careful what you wish for. The right would become a lot more powerful if the rise of UKIP is anything to go by. Even the SNP is fuelled on Nationalism. I think a lot of non-voters would be swayed by a charismatic right wing style nationalist rather than support parties on the left. Might be wrong but would you really take the risk? The system we have seems to stop extremism from both sides.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 2 September 2015 Posted 2 September 2015 I'm a little confused, but, what "opposition"?
Rincewind Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Not my words but seen this on another message board. I have left the picture out. However illogical it may seem this man sums up why some people are turning to Jeremy Corbyn. He may well be a disaster for the Labour and Tory supporters will snigger at the thought but in desperate times people do desperate things. This is Cameron's legacy, this is me today, can you see the pain i suffer the horrendous burning pains I've lived with for 15 years now, the cramps and stabbing pains that drop me to the floor without mercy ??. I'm invisible to David Cameron and this chair being my only way to leave home will be taken away by Cameron and his cronies, that will cause chain reactions that will inevitably end my life, but that don't matter I'm invisible to Cameron and as my pain exists deep within my eyes the Tories refuse to see a thing, that's just one of four invisible ailments I suffer, but again I matter not. My only hope remains within one man one JEREMY CORBYN, and I have trusted my life to this man, the outcome depends on you voters, and this truth remains, countless people like me are being left to die each and every day, don't we suffer enough, don't we deserve to live, my chair costs the average tax payer 0,00013846 of single penny, would you see me suffer and die for this as the Tories will or will you support our only hope to remain human Jeremy Corbyn. ???
The Railway Man Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 What would these people do if they lived in a country where no welfare state existed?
Rincewind Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 We are about the 5th richest nation. Comparisons does not make it right.But then again 'these people' are not related to you so it is OK.
The Railway Man Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 We are about the 5th richest nation. Comparisons does not make it right. Well someone should explain to her we wont be if Corbyn gets in as all the wealth will be gone quick as you can say benefits.
Guest Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Well someone should explain to her we wont be if Corbyn gets in as all the wealth will be gone quick as you can say benefits. Where's your facts to back that up?
Rincewind Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Cameron and the Mail says it so it must be true.
Webbo Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Where's your facts to back that up? There can be no facts on something that hasn't happened yet but past experience tells us what happened in the 70s and the last time Labour we're in power. Socialism is and always was an utter failure.
The Railway Man Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Where's your facts to back that up? Yeah Britain about 45 years ago, if you remember it you'll never forget. If you want a more recent example have a look at the tax take in your own country from the last few years when the excessive measures were put through, not to mention that ridiculous wealth tax that ended up costing you money.
The Railway Man Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Cameron and the Mail says it so it must be true. Pathetic, try actually arguing a case rather than coming back to everything with silly childish remarks.
Rincewind Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Pathetic, try actually arguing a case rather than coming back to everything with silly childish remarks. Are you saying Cameron does not defend his parties policies?
The Railway Man Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Well someone should explain to her we wont be if Corbyn gets in as all the wealth will be gone quick as you can say benefits. Where's your facts to back that up? Cameron and the Mail says it so it must be true. Pathetic, try actually arguing a case rather than coming back to everything with silly childish remarks. Are you saying Cameron does not defend his parties policies? Are you on this planet? What has Cameron and him defending his policies got to do with what is being talked about and if it has where have I said it?
bmt Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Apologies if already posted, article on the stupid misquotes and headlines written about Corbyn http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/people-are-sharing-private-eyes-brilliant-skewering-of-the-medias-jeremy-corbyn-headlines--Z1DJtVY_Be
Carl the Llama Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 Apologies if already posted, article on the stupid misquotes and headlines written about Corbyn http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/people-are-sharing-private-eyes-brilliant-skewering-of-the-medias-jeremy-corbyn-headlines--Z1DJtVY_Be That Corbyn warnings feed is marvellous. Corbyn Warnings @CorbynWarnings Aug 11 Corbyn 'Potentially Full Of Bees', Warns MP
Jon the Hat Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 More likely full of impractical and uncosted ideas which don't and will never get the support of a majority of the country.
Guest Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 There can be no facts on something that hasn't happened yet but past experience tells us what happened in the 70s and the last time Labour we're in power. Socialism is and always was an utter failure. Yeah Britain about 45 years ago, if you remember it you'll never forget. If you want a more recent example have a look at the tax take in your own country from the last few years when the excessive measures were put through, not to mention that ridiculous wealth tax that ended up costing you money. I was in England in the 70's. Not as bad as you are making out and quite good for some. As for France - I'm doing very nicely thanks as are many others. A few of the excessively rich did cry for a few days though.
Webbo Posted 3 September 2015 Posted 3 September 2015 I was in England in the 70's. Not as bad as you are making out and quite good for some. As for France - I'm doing very nicely thanks as are many others. A few of the excessively rich did cry for a few days though. I was in England in the 70s too, inflation, industrial strife, rising unemployment and the govt going cap in hand to the IMF for a loan. I doubt many of the excessively rich did cry much, just move somewhere else.
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