Next Leader of the Opposition

[Danno]

nope..just brutally honest..my experience of life is..people have tremendous principles until it costs them money...  i wish we could save the world but we can't and won't..

Do you have asthma?

[Guest Bilo]

The sad thing is that with the right leader, Labour actually could win in 2020.

 

A persuasive leader with an attractive manifesto and a strong Shadow Cabinet could take advantage of the various challenges coming the Tories' way . Challenges include Cameron either stepping down and triggering a leadership contest or choosing to stay and thus go back on his word, the battle between moderate Europhiles and right-wing Eurosceptics ahead of the referendum, growing economic unrest in China could do for the Tories' economic reputation what the banking crisis did for Labour if played correctly by Labour and the negative publicity being generated against the likes of IDS. 

 

A competent leader could have the Tories sweating all the way till 2020.

[ousefox]

if you want to abuse me..try to write it properly...

Again, I have no idea what you're on about.

[Lionator]

The sad thing is that with the right leader, Labour actually could win in 2020.

 

A persuasive leader with an attractive manifesto and a strong Shadow Cabinet could take advantage of the various challenges coming the Tories' way . Challenges include Cameron either stepping down and triggering a leadership contest or choosing to stay and thus go back on his word, the battle between moderate Europhiles and right-wing Eurosceptics ahead of the referendum, growing economic unrest in China could do for the Tories' economic reputation what the banking crisis did for Labour if played correctly by Labour and the negative publicity being generated against the likes of IDS. 

 

A competent leader could have the Tories sweating all the way till 2020.

 

Dan Jarvis should've stood for election.

[Alf Bentley]

I think it would be interesting to see politics move away from the centre, if labour lurch to left it opens up a gap on the right. I want to see some genuine right wing politics.

 

 

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[Strokes]

dddd

 

 

Yeah why not.

[BlueSi13]

Was going to add my opinion to a couple of earlier posts but I'll save it and ask Team Corbyn instead:

 

Do you guys really think he will become Prime Minister in 2020?

[Guest Bilo]

Dan Jarvis should've stood for election.

 

I agree with that, and I was deeply disappointed when he didn't (as much as his reasons for not doing so were very honourable.)

 

He, more than anyone in the Labour Party, has the ability to unite the party AND give the Tories a serious headache. I honestly doubt that Corbynism would ever have been born if Jarvis had stood.

[johnny the fox]

Again, I have no idea what you're on about.

of course you don't, why would you.

[ousefox]

Was going to add my opinion to a couple of earlier posts but I'll save it and ask Team Corbyn instead:

 

Do you guys really think he will become Prime Minister in 2020?

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-prime-minister

 

That's showing 7/1 at best odds but then I imagine that is including the prospect of Cameron stepping down and being replaced during this term, so it probably means nothing... still might be fairly accurate either way! 

 

of course you don't, why would you.

[Guest]

nope..just brutally honest..my experience of life is..people have tremendous principles until it costs them money...  i wish we could save the world but we can't and won't.. 

 

And that was my point.

[Guest]

I'd like to think so, but a bit of insurance wouldn't go amiss.

 

Would you rather have the Conservative party in perpetual control or would you prefer the party that wins the most seats/votes?

[Guest]

The sad thing is that with the right leader, Labour actually could win in 2020.

 

A persuasive leader with an attractive manifesto and a strong Shadow Cabinet could take advantage of the various challenges coming the Tories' way . Challenges include Cameron either stepping down and triggering a leadership contest or choosing to stay and thus go back on his word, the battle between moderate Europhiles and right-wing Eurosceptics ahead of the referendum, growing economic unrest in China could do for the Tories' economic reputation what the banking crisis did for Labour if played correctly by Labour and the negative publicity being generated against the likes of IDS. 

 

A competent leader could have the Tories sweating all the way till 2020.

 

I guess that this contest has shown that you don't have one.

Dan Jarvis should've stood for election.

 

He clearly didn't think so. Obviously not the right man.

[Guest]

Was going to add my opinion to a couple of earlier posts but I'll save it and ask Team Corbyn instead:

 

Do you guys really think he will become Prime Minister in 2020?

 

If anyone knew who the Prime Minister would be in 2020 I guess there wouldn't be any need for a costly election.

I agree with that, and I was deeply disappointed when he didn't (as much as his reasons for not doing so were very honourable.)

 

He, more than anyone in the Labour Party, has the ability to unite the party AND give the Tories a serious headache. I honestly doubt that Corbynism would ever have been born if Jarvis had stood.

 

But he didn't.

 

And being the superman you say he'd surely have foreseen what would happen if he didn't.

[Guest Bilo]

I guess that this contest has shown that you don't have one.

 

I think Burnham could make a decent leader, though I would have preferred Jarvis. Unfortunately, it would appear the £3ers and old style left have the election licked. The only hope now is that we have a better choice of leaders in 2016/2017 when Corbyn is deposed with the Tories holding a 15-20 point lead in the polls.

 

 

But he didn't.

 

And being the superman you say he'd surely have foreseen what would happen if he didn't.

 

 

A straw man argument is the best you can do?! 

[Guest Bilo]

In fairness, this is quite good from the Torygraph. Touché.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11804199/How-to-speak-like-a-Corbynite-a-helpful-guide.html?x

[Guest]

I think Burnham could make a decent leader, though I would have preferred Jarvis. Unfortunately, it would appear the £3ers and old style left have the election licked. The only hope now is that we have a better choice of leaders in 2016/2017 when Corbyn is deposed with the Tories holding a 15-20 point lead in the polls.

 

 

 

A straw man argument is the best you can do?! 

 

I think the facts speak for themselves.

[Guest Bilo]

He chose not to stand as he has young children, not because he bottled it like Chuka. 

[Guest]

He chose not to stand as he has young children, not because he bottled it like Chuka. 

 

I know that's what he said.

 

If so he clearly doesn't have the Labour party at the centre of his life as he would've known what was in store. 

 

That doesn't make him a future super leader but maybe a superDad.

 

Just to add if he thinks that becoming leader at any time before his kids have left home is better than becoming leader now he's wrong or a fraud.

[Strokes]

In fairness, this is quite good from the Torygraph. Touché.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11804199/How-to-speak-like-a-Corbynite-a-helpful-guide.html?x

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[Rincewind]

Maybe he does not want to put them through the media attention he and his family will attract. Rightly or wrongly that is his choice.

I wonder what dirt the press would have dug up for him?

[Webbo]

Would you rather have the Conservative party in perpetual control or would you prefer the party that wins the most seats/votes?

The Conservatives, obviously.

[The Doctor]

In fairness, this is quite good from the Torygraph. Touché.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11804199/How-to-speak-like-a-Corbynite-a-helpful-guide.html?x

 

To be fair, anyone who pours the milk in first is wrong and not to be trusted.

[Wymsey]

Not up to date, but some are quite funny:

 

https://twitter.com/corbynjokes?lang=en

[Mark_w]

Was going to add my opinion to a couple of earlier posts but I'll save it and ask Team Corbyn instead:

 

Do you guys really think he will become Prime Minister in 2020?

 

I don't consider myself a member of 'Team Corbyn' but he's probably my preferred candidate so I'll bite.

 

No, no I don't think he'll become Prime Minister in 2020. I also don't think that Andy Burnham, Yvette Cooper or Liz Kendall would become Prime Minister in 2020, unless the Conservatives really f*** up their leadership contest. I don't know what it is that makes anyone think any of them are particularly capable of it to be honest. Maybe I'm just a pessimist but I think Labour have really shot themselves in the foot, if Corbyn wins he's most likely not going to win an election. If Burnham/Cooper/Kendall win then I imagine they'll alienate a large chunk of support from those who've been swept up by Corbyn's campaign who may well have voted Labour in the election. I don't think Cooper, Burnham or Kendall are particularly inspiring as it is - maybe this mess will be forgotten in five years but I can't help but feel pessimistic at the moment. Corbyn's political views seem to most closely match my own, so I want him to become Labour leader, hopefully he'll be able to change a few peoples minds, if he doesn't then hopefully  there will be a more convincing candidate to follow Labour's defeat.