Next Leader of the Opposition

[Carl the Llama]

"This was an assassination attempt and is yet another tragedy"

He clearly says it, but the context shows quite clearly that it's a tragedy because he wasn't made to face what he's done - something I suspect most attacking him for it would agree with, that it would have been preferable democratic and not barbarically hypocritical to make him stand trial for his crimes.

[Guest MattP]

Anyone slightly concerned Corbyn is prepared to work for the Iranian government on it's state television?

This is a regime that still executes homosexuals.

[Buce]

Anyone slightly concerned Corbyn is prepared to work for the Iranian government on it's state television?

This is a regime that still executes homosexuals.

Not as concerned as I am that we sell billions of pounds worth of armaments to Saudi Arabia, which has one of the worst human rights records in the world, including similar persecution of homosexuals. But I guess that's ok, coz it creates employment.

[Alf Bentley]

Anyone slightly concerned Corbyn is prepared to work for the Iranian government on it's state television?

This is a regime that still executes homosexuals.

 

 

Was he working for the Iranian government or just doing a TV interview? If the latter, do Cameron, Corbyn, Miliband and Farage all work for the BBC?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/world/europe/jeremy-corbyn-favorite-to-lead-britains-labour-party-is-criticized-for-bin-laden-comments.html?_r=0

 

Mr. Corbyn spoke in an interview with Iranian Press TV, an English-language channel, a few days after Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan in May 2011 by American forces. His comments were relatively nuanced, and came in the context of a condemnation of the killing of the leader of Al Qaedawithout any indication that American troops had tried to capture him alive or bring him to trial.

“There was no attempt whatsoever that I can see to arrest him, to put him on trial, to go through that process,” Mr. Corbyn said. “This was an assassination attempt, and is yet another tragedy, upon a tragedy, upon a tragedy.” He said the killing made the world “a more dangerous” place and predicted the killing of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader, which in fact took place later the same year after a Western effort to overthrow his government.

“The World Trade Center was a tragedy, the attack on Afghanistan was a tragedy, the war in Iraq was a tragedy,” Mr. Corbyn said. “Tens of thousands of people have died. Torture has come back on to the world stage, been canonized virtually into law by Guantánamo and Bagram. Can’t we learn some lessons from this? Are we just going to descend deeper and deeper?”

“The next stage will be an attempted assassination on Qaddafi and so it will go on. This will just make the world more dangerous and worse and worse and worse.” The solution, he said, “has got to be law, not war.”

Mr. Corbyn was echoing what was then commonplace left-wing criticism of American foreign policy, military interventions, drone strikes and killings without trial. While Mr. Corbyn does not deny the comments, a Corbyn spokesman told the newspaper The Sun, which dug up the interview, that “Jeremy is a total opponent of Al Qaeda and all it stands for.”

 

 

Whether it would have been feasible to have taken Bin Laden alive and put him on trial, I've no idea, but otherwise Corbyn's comments seem eminently reasonable.

[Alf Bentley]

Not as concerned as I am that we sell billions of pounds worth of armaments to Saudi Arabia, which has one of the worst human rights records in the world, including similar persecution of homosexuals. But I guess that's ok, coz it creates employment.

 

 

Saudi cash is also one of the main sources of funding for Islamic State. What is the government/West doing about that? Almost nothing, as far as I can tell.

[Guest]

Anyone slightly concerned Corbyn is prepared to work for the Iranian government on it's state television?

This is a regime that still executes homosexuals.

 

You should work for the Daily Mail.

[Buce]

You should work for the Daily Mail.

Matt's too right-wing for the Mail.

[Frank to be]

Funny to see the fighty righty's trying to smear corbyn. They're running scared, they no change is a coming

[Guest MattP]

I'm on about the programs he's presented with Galloway, they aren't interviews are they?

And come on Frank, you've got to stop this. Why would we be scared? The day Labour appoint him is the day they cease to be a serious political party.

People who say the things Jeremy Corbyn does won't be PM. Bilo has been spot on though, his political supporters are absolutely ****ing crackers. Worse than the SNP lot.

[Alf Bentley]

I'm on about the programs he's presented with Galloway, they aren't interviews are they?

 

 

Could you post a link re. "the programs that Corbyn has presented with Galloway"?

 

I've just Googled it and can only find references to Corbyn appearing once, instead of Galloway, 5 years ago:

Jewish Chronicle: http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/41633/galloway-corbyn-rapped-ofcom-press-tv-israel-programme

OFCOM: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/enforcement/broadcast-bulletins/obb170/issue170.pdf(pp. 10-18)

 

Corbyn got his knuckles rapped by OFCOM for a 2010 "Comment" piece in which he called for economic sanctions against Israel for its repeated breaches of UN resolutions, without adequately representing Israel's views as a counter-balance.

I wonder how often most newspapers present an adequate and balanced representation of Corbyn's views? 

 

I'm no Corbynista, but don't like to see truth mixed with distortion, smears and mud-slinging - an art in which you're the No. 1 specialist on here.

Am open to being proved wrong by a link showing Corbyn regularly presenting programmes with Galloway....

[Webbo]

Funny to see the fighty righty's trying to smear corbyn. They're running scared, they no change is a coming

I hope he gets it. we won't have another Labour govt for at least 10 years.

[johnny the fox]

debate on channel 4 now..all full of it...regarding refugees ..why don't each one of the candidates set an example to us all by agreeing to take a family in their own homes and pay for them? no they won't dream of it ..its all bull.. I got to be honest I don't care about the refugees.. if the shoe was on the other foot they wouldn't give a fook for us...we can't save the world ,never have, never will..

[Buce]

debate on channel 4 now..all full of it...regarding refugees ..why don't each one of the candidates set an example to us all by agreeing to take a family in their own homes and pay for them? no they won't dream of it ..its all bull.. I got to be honest I don't care about the refugees.. if the shoe was on the other foot they wouldn't give a fook for us...we can't save the world ,never have, never will..

Hmmmm. Yes. Well, thank you for sharing that witth us,; I'm sure your mother is very proud of you.

[Strokes]

Funny to see the fighty righty's trying to smear corbyn. They're running scared, they no change is a coming

I think it would be interesting to see politics move away from the centre, if labour lurch to left it opens up a gap on the right. I want to see some genuine right wing politics.

[Buce]

... I want to see some genuine right wing politics.

For example?

[Guest]

I hope he gets it. we won't have another Labour govt for at least 10 years.

 

Surely you believe that's the case anyway.

I think it would be interesting to see politics move away from the centre, if labour lurch to left it opens up a gap on the right. I want to see some genuine right wing politics.

 

At last you're agreeing with me.

[johnny the fox]

Hmmmm. Yes. Well, thank you for sharing that witth us,; I'm sure your mother is very proud of you.

my mother passed away in april...I cared for her for 11 years, she had dementia..so yes she was very proud of me...thanks ...under the UN charter refugees should seek asylum at the first port of call, not trek through umpteen countries to get here.. explain to me why most of the muslim refugees will not seek asylum in another muslim country which are much closer to them than europe is?  no they want to come to the christian west...strange that is....

[Guest]

my mother passed away in april...I cared for her for 11 years, she had dementia..so yes she was very proud of me...thanks ...under the UN charter refugees should seek asylum at the first port of call, not trek through umpteen countries to get here.. explain to me why most of the muslim refugees will not seek asylum in another muslim country which are much closer to them than europe is?  no they want to come to the christian west...strange that is....

 

the Christian West . HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

[Danno]

my mother passed away in april...I cared for her for 11 years, she had dementia..so yes she was very proud of me...thanks ...under the UN charter refugees should seek asylum at the first port of call, not trek through umpteen countries to get here.. explain to me why most of the muslim refugees will not seek asylum in another muslim country which are much closer to them than europe is?  no they want to come to the christian west...strange that is....

Yeah getting a job, proper strange that.

[johnny the fox]

the Christian West . HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

great argument that..  all you heart bleeders should get down to kent and adopt a refugee family and look after them in your house.. set an example of your principles..

[Guest]

great argument that..  all you heart bleeders should get down to kent and adopt a refugee family and look after them in your house.. set an example of your principles..

 

Are you a Christian?

[ousefox]

great argument that..  all you heart bleeders should get down to kent and adopt a refugee family and look after them in your house.. set an example of your principles..

It's actually impossible to describe how stupid you seem on this page.

[johnny the fox]

Are you a Christian?

nope..just brutally honest..my experience of life is..people have tremendous principles until it costs them money...  i wish we could save the world but we can't and won't.. 

[johnny the fox]

It's actually impossible to describe how stupid you seem on this page.

if you want to abuse me..try to write it properly...

[Webbo]

Surely you believe that's the case anyway.

 

 

I'd like to think so, but a bit of insurance wouldn't go amiss.