Itsthejoeker Posted 3 July 2015 Posted 3 July 2015 Out of interest what have you been eating? I've tried to follow a plan which was to get down to 50g of carbohydrate a day and it was absolutely impossible - everything has loads of carbs in it - a glass of orange juice has like 30g, a glass of milk 10g etc. Even totally cutting out bread, potatoes, pasta and rice I struggled to get under 75g on any given day. I'm almost off Carbs, probably a weetabix and a banana a day. Omelette for breakfast with chopped ham, chicken with spinach and broccoli for lunch, dinner swaps between soup, steak, or turkey depending on how I'm feeling. I snack on hazelnuts and walnuts, they're good low carbs, and two scoops of protein a day.
Freesolo Posted 3 July 2015 Posted 3 July 2015 Out of interest what have you been eating? I've tried to follow a plan which was to get down to 50g of carbohydrate a day and it was absolutely impossible - everything has loads of carbs in it - a glass of orange juice has like 30g, a glass of milk 10g etc. Even totally cutting out bread, potatoes, pasta and rice I struggled to get under 75g on any given day. Do you do cardio? Fasted cardio in the morning is a way to speed up your metabolism if you are trying to cut and looking for something extra to add
Bettsj2 Posted 3 July 2015 Posted 3 July 2015 Been laid low with a virus for two weeks. Have had no energy to work out. Going out of my mind!!
LCFC FOX Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 starting the gym soon, Never been before so have no idea what to expect/to do. Looking to tone up really and lose a bit of fat! Any tips would be appreciated
Unabomber Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 starting the gym soon, Never been before so have no idea what to expect/to do. Looking to tone up really and lose a bit of fat! Any tips would be appreciated Get on either a full body routine 3x week or a legs/push/pull routine. Eat enough protein and either less calories than you need to lose fat or more if you want to gain muscle, you can't do both at the same time but if you have no muscle to start with there is no point in losing fat.
Itsthejoeker Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 what gyms does everyone use? Moving up to Leicester in September and wondered where's best to work out
LCFC FOX Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 Get on either a full body routine 3x week or a legs/push/pull routine. Eat enough protein and either less calories than you need to lose fat or more if you want to gain muscle, you can't do both at the same time but if you have no muscle to start with there is no point in losing fat. cheers I drink healthy smoothies anyway and will drink protein shakes before I go the gym. Just the eating healthier and going for a jog doesn't seem to be doing anything. So I've gave in and trying the gym.
SystonFox Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 what gyms does everyone use? Moving up to Leicester in September and wondered where's best to work out Soar valley leisure in mountsorrel as I now reside in Rothley not Syston! No air con lately it's a nightmare. Been more into road cycling lately anyway
Itsthejoeker Posted 5 July 2015 Posted 5 July 2015 cheers I drink healthy smoothies anyway and will drink protein shakes before I go the gym. Just the eating healthier and going for a jog doesn't seem to be doing anything. So I've gave in and trying the gym. I'd have your protein post workout, you won't get as sore the next day, and personally training on a stomach full of protein makes me gag.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 cheers I drink healthy smoothies anyway and will drink protein shakes before I go the gym. Just the eating healthier and going for a jog doesn't seem to be doing anything. So I've gave in and trying the gym. To lose weight the most important thing is to get your diet on point, Eat clean foods, its not a case of how many calories you consume it where these calories come from. Myself in your position looking to lose weight and gain muscle as a newb i would concentrate on the weight loss through diet first keep your protein high nothing crazy (1gram per pound of bodyweight), get used to using the gym equipment and keeping good form, once you have toned down you can up you calories and look to add more muscle.
Unabomber Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 To lose weight the most important thing is to get your diet on point, Eat clean foods, its not a case of how many calories you consume it where these calories come from. This is not true, you need to do some research before you offer bullshit advice.
SystonFox Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 This is not true, you need to do some research before you offer bullshit advice. :karlpilkingtonbullshitgif:
LCFC FOX Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 I'll go to the gym and try and lose a bit of weight and if I ever tone up that'll just be a bonus.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 This is not true, you need to do some research before you offer bullshit advice. Why don't you enlighten me with your wisdom?
NewburyFox Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Why don't you enlighten me with your wisdom? You said that it doesn't matter how many calories you consume when trying to lose weight when the most basic principle of losing weight is to burn more calories than you take in.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Of course it matters how many calories you eat thats just a given I think i was misunderstood. What I am saying is diet and where your calories come from is the most important part of losing fat and the most important part of building a muscular physique.
Ollie93 Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Of course it matters how many calories you eat thats just a given I think i was misunderstood. What I am saying is diet and where your calories come from is the most important part of losing fat and the most important part of building a muscular physique. As much as I hate it; http://iifym.com/is a great place to start if you are really overweight and have never dieted before. Basic principle is eat relatively, say 80% healthy, but allows you that 20% "cheat" calories. Its good if you initially struggle to stick to a diet plan, which I know a lot of us do.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 As much as I hate it; http://iifym.com/is a great place to start if you are really overweight and have never dieted before. Basic principle is eat relatively, say 80% healthy, but allows you that 20% "cheat" calories. Its good if you initially struggle to stick to a diet plan, which I know a lot of us do. I agree IIFYM is a good start but will only take you so far, it is good for a beginner who wants to start to understand macronutrients and doesn't want to lose his mind going onto a proper bodybuilding 100% healthy diet.
Unabomber Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Why don't you enlighten me with your wisdom? "Eat clean foods, its not a case of how many calories you consume it where these calories come from." It's not a case of how many calories you consume? That is literally what it is all about. You think if you eat 4000 calories of chicken and rice (brown of course) you won't get fat if you maintain on 3000kcals? Sure it is best to eat a balanced diet with a variety of whole foods, but the most important thing is calories and protein levels when it comes to losing and gaining weight.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 "Eat clean foods, its not a case of how many calories you consume it where these calories come from." It's not a case of how many calories you consume? That is literally what it is all about. You think if you eat 4000 calories of chicken and rice (brown of course) you won't get fat if you maintain on 3000kcals? Sure it is best to eat a balanced diet with a variety of whole foods, but the most important thing is calories and protein levels when it comes to losing and gaining weight. Wow just Wow! when I say "Its not a case of how many calories you consume its where they come from" I am saying that you can't just eat anything to meet your caloric needs you have to consider what your macro's are. Im quoting you last post "It's not a case of how many calories you consume? That is literally what it is all about" Ok you eat 3000 calories of Mars bars since its all about calories and I will Work out my daily macronutrients for the day of Carbs/Protein/Fats coming from clean food
Unabomber Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Wow just Wow! when I say "Its not a case of how many calories you consume its where they come from" I am saying that you can't just eat anything to meet your caloric needs you have to consider what your macro's are. Im quoting you last post "It's not a case of how many calories you consume? That is literally what it is all about" Ok you eat 3000 calories of Mars bars since its all about calories and I will Work out my daily macronutrients for the day of Carbs/Protein/Fats coming from clean food I mentioned eating whole foods and protein level.
filbertway Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 If melt 1500 calories of mars bars into a bowl containing 1500 calories of brown rice, am I going to be doing okay?
GingerrrFox Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 Wow just Wow! when I say "Its not a case of how many calories you consume its where they come from" I am saying that you can't just eat anything to meet your caloric needs you have to consider what your macro's are. Im quoting you last post "It's not a case of how many calories you consume? That is literally what it is all about" Ok you eat 3000 calories of Mars bars since its all about calories and I will Work out my daily macronutrients for the day of Carbs/Protein/Fats coming from clean food http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/ A nutrition lecturer ate nothing but junk food under a calorie restriction to prove that it doesn't matter where your calories come from, it's the amount you consume. "Clean eating" is one of the biggest cons going for pure fat loss. Doing what that professor did, you won't be "healthy" but you will lose fat.
Freesolo Posted 6 July 2015 Posted 6 July 2015 http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/ A nutrition lecturer ate nothing but junk food under a calorie restriction to prove that it doesn't matter where your calories come from, it's the amount you consume. "Clean eating" is one of the biggest cons going for pure fat loss. Doing what that professor did, you won't be "healthy" but you will lose fat. Your Insane if you believe you can build a physique from eating junk food, food's that are high is sugar and have GI index cause insulin spikes which is a bodybuilders nightmare when trying to lose fat.follow his advice you will be diabetic and fat, also he looks like he go's to the gym You do not have a clue what you are talking about and are probably obese looking for a easy way to lose weight http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/derek20.htm Insulin is a hormone that is made in the pancreas. Insulin's job is to keep blood sugar levels from rising too high. When you intake a carbohydrate (let's say grape juice, for example), your body releases insulin to regulate your blood sugar levels. The body is constantly trying to maintain homeostasis, or internal equilibrium. Therefore, it does not let its blood sugar levels drop too low or become to high. The glucose is transported to muscle tissue and fat cells, lowering blood sugar levels. This is where insulin becomes very important to bodybuilders. Insulin is very anabolic because it increases the body's ability to uptake amino acids.2 It is believed that the best times to create an insulin spike is when you wake up and after a workout. This is because your insulin sensitivity is highest at these times.2 To create an insulin spike, a food with a high GI rating is needed. An example of this would be honey. Eating honey, along with your protein shake, will cause an insulin spike and bring glucose to your muscles and increase your amino acid uptake. Insulin has also been shown to stop protein breakdown after a workout.6 So insulin replenishes glycogen storage, increases amino acid uptake, and stops protein breakdown. Before you start drinking a bottle of honey, however - insulin also has a downside. Insulin also plays a role in storing fat. When insulin is released, it causes the liver to store glucose as glycogen. This is fine when your liver needs its glycogen level replenished, such as after a workout. If the liver is saturated (or already full) of glycogen, however, any extra glucose will be transported to fat cells.
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