Pearson Sacked

[Corky]

Get Over It!!

The owners are 100% right ..... Nigel was a RR disaster .... Not the kind of manager that a upwardly mobile team such as LCFC would have anything to do with. Get over it and move on !!!

 

If the next man takes us to the top 8 and wins an FA Cup (and I bloody hope they do), their PR relations won't mean a lot. Their management ability will.

 

Pearson didn't help himself because he was bottom of the league. It's easy to have a dig when results are poor. It'll more likely be laughed off/ excused if results are good and the club is progressing.

 

Results on the pitch are the most important thing, not PR awareness. Otherwise every club would look for a nice man who behaves perfectly and they are few and far between.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Not much info but these are facts from within

 

Diss if you want

 

 

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

[CosbehFox]

If the next man takes us to the top 8 and wins an FA Cup (and I bloody hope they do), their PR relations won't mean a lot. Their management ability will.

Pearson didn't help himself because he was bottom of the league. It's easy to have a dig when results are poor. It'll more likely be laughed off/ excused if results are good and the club is progressing.

Results on the pitch are the most important thing, not PR awareness. Otherwise every club would look for a nice man who behaves perfectly and they are few and far between.

Exactly Corky. Success surpasses PR.

[Webbo]

Hasn't he been a PR nightmare since he's been here? Why are they sacking him because of that now?

[EnglishOxide]

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Not much info but these are facts from within

Diss if you want

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

Alright mate.

[Spaghetti]

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Not much info but these are facts from within

Diss if you want

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

Lmao. Do you not think it would be in the media that we interviewed dyche. We have to get permission from Burnley

[kimsalabim]

That wasn't just my logic, it was comparing it to being international managers, managed in European competition/Champions league, won titles (and not just second and third division).

Better managers than Pearson in premier league:

- pardew

- mourinho

- Rodgers

- pochettino

- wenger

- van gaal

- monk

- Howe

- pellegrini

- Bilic

- mark Hughes

- tony pulis

Get the drift? Pearson isn't better than most premier league managers, nevermind the likes of ranieri and hiddink. Stop being delusional. By the way some go on about him on here he will be offered the man utd job after van gaal. He will be fortunate to pick up a desperate premier league club.

Rodgers! Ha he's effing useless. Howe has never managed in the Premier League, so come on, back that one up? Pellegrini. I'd be a great manager too if I had a billion pound transfer budget every season. Hughes? Please. Pulis? What's he done other than keep teams up. The others, granted, but you have put some stinkers in that mix mate, especially Rodgers, he's hopeless. Gone by November. Watch.

[Spaghetti]

Rodgers! Ha he's effing useless. Howe has never managed in the Premier League, so come on, back that one up? Pellegrini. I'd be a great manager too if I had a billion pound transfer budget every season. Hughes? Please. Pulis? What's he done other than keep teams up. The others, granted, but you have put some stinkers in that mix mate, especially Rodgers, he's hopeless. Gone by November. Watch.

Ermmmmmm are you really suggesting pearson is better than Rodgers?

[ballso]

Lmao. Do you not think it would be in the media that we interviewed dyche. We have to get permission from Burnley

Exactly! And why would Klopp go to interview if he didn't want it? Bullshit!

[st albans fox]

Not much info but these are facts from within

 

Diss if you want

 

 

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

I was once told from within that beckham was coming to be player manager. I think practical jokes can emanate from anywhere

If klopp doesn't want it, he must have been interested enough to have attended an interview. His agent would have discussed salary etc before agreeing to an interview. What was it he heard at the interview that didn't convince him we were a potentail fit?

Burnley wouldn't stand in dyche's way and they certainly wouldn't publicise that they had allowed him to speak to us..

the players wives and partners will be delighted to read that 'maids' bit mate. doing our bit for team morale there. Having been to Bangkok and other parts of se Asia, that is very plausible. I have said this all along.

[Webbo]

 Pellegrini. I'd be a great manager too if I had a billion pound transfer budget every season.

Makes you wonder why Man city pay him all that money if they could just drag someone off the street to do it.

[Far Post Gerry]

Ermmmmmm are you really suggesting pearson is better than Rodgers?

Don't think there's much between them, tbh. Rodgers managed to bag himself a big job, and he's a lot more media-friendly than NP. But in terms of pure ability? Not much to choose.

[foxoffderby]

 

Not much info but these are facts from within

 

Diss if you want

 

 

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

 

Clubs don't just give permission to talk to their manager. Mixing lies with a couple facts doesn't make the lies legit. 

[Spaghetti]

It's amazing how people believe managers are good just because they have loads of money to spend. Why wasn't sven amazing in the championship for us then

[Mark_w]

The players seem okay in training (albeit only pictures) All other staff all remain. We had Kasabian come out and say they are delighted at Pearson being sacked. (They would obviously have met him)

It begs the question - was Pearson liked? Did something happen before where he was sacked and reinstated. He made the sudden move back to the dugout, Why didnt he continue in the stands. Was there a fallout with his staff I wonder. Maybe he wanted to bring new staff in and the club refused, choosing shakey and Walsh over him

 

Bruno Berner takes literally every opportunity to kiss his ass. Chris Powell notes him as one of the biggest influences on his managerial style. Kasper Schmeichel goes a lot further than he needs to in praising him when asked. David Nugent's girlfriend/wife/whatever who's also friends with Jamie Vardy has posted crying faces on Twitter both times he was sacked. The players clearly raised their game against Arsenal after his first sacking and put together an unbelievable run to stay up under his management. He's obviously good friends with Alan Birchenall based on their interactions. Robert Huth was willing to sign for us after his loan spell under him as have many other players. He takes every opportunity to credit Shakespeare and Walsh for the work they do for him.

 

So I'm going to go with, 'No, a few pictures of a few players smiling during the hours of training when the opportunity arises doesn't mean they're happy Pearson has been sacked, no some shitty band disliking him doesn't mean he's generally disliked and no he didn't want to bring in staff members to replace the team that have been with him for years and achieved much success'.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Clubs don't just give permission to talk to their manager. Mixing lies with a couple facts doesn't make the lies legit.

I've hardly stated that there is man on the moon. Can't reveal the source but can assure you it is credible.

I don't post often or crap

The point on the reason he was sacked although I don't know details came across like he was a little antic for his last 2 weeks to the point of him actually wanting the sack?

Fully understand my points not being believed.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Clubs don't just give permission to talk to their manager. Mixing lies with a couple facts doesn't make the lies legit.

I've hardly stated that there is man on the moon. Can't reveal the source but can assure you it is credible.

I don't post often or crap

The point on the reason he was sacked although I don't know details came across like he was a nutter for his last 2 weeks to the point of him actually wanting the sack?

Fully understand my points not being believed.

[Mark_w]

I've hardly stated that there is man on the moon. Can't reveal the source but can assure you it is credible.

I don't post often or crap

The point on the reason he was sacked although I don't know details came across like he was a little antic for his last 2 weeks to the point of him actually wanting the sack?

Fully understand my points not being believed.

 

Yeah you're going to need more than that to convince me Jurgen Klopp agreed to an interview for the Leicester City job.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Yeah you're going to need more than that to convince me Jurgen Klopp agreed to an interview for the Leicester City job.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Honestly don't care, believe want you want. If anyone heard it from the source I did you would listen.

I'm not a spotty 15 year old dreamer.

+ I have been vague so it is not traceable.

[st albans fox]

Suspect we may need to define what constitutes an 'interview'.

I'm sure we've spoken to representatives of these guys but whether our people have actually sat down face to face is another matter.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Suspect we may need to define what constitutes an 'interview'.

I'm sure we've spoken to representatives of these guys but whether our people have actually sat down face to face is another matter.[/quot

Agree. I'm just quoting what I was told. May have been just a phone call, got the impression it was physical.

I was left in no doubt that Pearson deserved the sack though.

[Finnaldo]

Suspect we may need to define what constitutes an 'interview'.

I'm sure we've spoken to representatives of these guys but whether our people have actually sat down face to face is another matter.[/quot

Agree. I'm just quoting what I was told. May have been just a phone call, got the impression it was physical.

I was left in no doubt that Pearson deserved the sack though.

Well if what you say is true and the Thais gave them two maids each then that would suggest the whole scandal goes back to them and if it's Pearson reacting to two players getting sacked for what the Thais basically set up then he's absolutely right. First thing I said is that Hopper should have been sacked and the other two disciplined internally.

[Carl the Llama]

 

Not much info but these are facts from within

 

Diss if you want

 

 

• Sean dyche was interviewed on Wednesday
• Klopp was interviewed on Monday - first choice bit doesn't want it
• No Americans have been interviewed
• The players were given ' 2 maids' when in Bangkok
• Pearson gave the owners lots of reason to sack him in his last 2 weeks, they had no alternative

 

[inckley fox]

To answer this and your other 3 essays;

 

You seem to be saying any assumptions that fit your theories are to be allowed but no other theory can be proved without evidence. You say there's no evidence that Pearson did anything wrong completely ignoring the obvious fact that he's been sacked, quite a large clue you'd think. They didn't sack him when he told a fan to FOAD nor when he was strangling an opposition player nor when we were bottom of the league for 5 months. If they always planned a hire a new manager they could have sacked at the end of the season.

 

 We're told that he's been sacked to protect King Power from what? If he was sacked simply because his son brought embarrassment on King Power then why wasn't he sacked at the same time as the players? Apparently he's been sacked for PR reasons because of an incident that nobody knows anything about and nobody would even be aware of if he hadn't been fired.

 

I don't know what he was sacked for but we all know what a stroppy cvnt he was. It doesn't take much imagination to think he's spat the dummy one too many times. When you're paying someone £1million+ a year I guess eventually you get fed up of walking on eggshells around them. Sometimes you have to say if you don't like it fvck off.

 

For all the efforts to intellectualise this we all know that people are just kicking out because they're disappointed that he's gone. I'm disappointed he's gone as well, I wish none of this had ever happened but it has. It's been nearly a fortnight now. It's time for a bit of grown up reflection and honesty.

 

No, I'm not making assumptions. There is quite strong, detailed and first hand evidence that the owners were involved at the time of Pearson's first exit.

 

I'm not making any assumptions to back my argument up. I'm saying that we don't have much solid information, and that the information we do have isn't anywhere near sufficient to justify the sacking. Nor is it sufficient to suggest that the board have never put a foot wrong and that Pearson struggles to maintain professional relationships.

 

That doesn't mean that the sacking wasn't in some way justified, nor does it mean that it won't turn out to have been a good decision. But when people like yourself keep making assumptions, then writing abrasive messages accusing people of writing 'essays', talking 'b*******', needing to grow up or be more honest or trying but failing to 'intellectualise' the argument, it does make it necessary for people like me to keep pointing out how totally based on thin air your argument is.

 

When a judge hears a case for unfair dismissal, he doesn't look at the fact that a person was 'fired' as evidence, which is what you seem to think. An irreparable difference in perspective doesn't suggest Pearson being a 'stroppy c***' - as you say - nor does it suggest any incident of gross misconduct, as you've occasionally implied. We might suspect he's stroppy because of his media persona but, even if this is the case, that alone isn't going to be a sufficient reason for firing him. You are still having to use your imagination.

 

So without a strong case being presented against Pearson - which we'll probably never hear - we only have the facts to go on:

 

(1) Our board do have a close connection to a much-maligned monarch, they have fired three managers in five years, their other appointments haven't worked out and they were involved in the club at the time of Pearson's first exit - and he did suspect their involvement.

 

(2) They have also backed us up with excellent investment and made some very good decisions, especially where backing Pearson has been involved, and he himself believed that their 'integrity' should not be questioned.

 

(3) Pearson has established long-standing professional relationships as player and manager during a career of over 30 years in football. He has never been fired for gross misconduct.

 

(4) His public behaviour has not always been 100% professional, albeit in a profession where few managers' behaviour is 100% professional.

 

(5) He was extremely successful for our club, with and without this board, and was at the peak of his success at the time of our dismissal.

 

(6) No explanation has been given for the dismissal, as of yet, to point to gross misconduct, or a single incident which made his sacking unavoidable, as you claim.

 

(7) Six weeks of pre-season passed and various signings were made still under Pearson's reign, meaning that the timing for the sacking was - while not disastrous - not perfect either.

 

(8) A squad formed almost entirely by Pearson, consisting of players who have consistently expressed support for Pearson, has been left behind. And a manager who achieved year-on-year improvement has gone. 

 

In order to use these facts against Pearson a huge amount of joining-the-dots needs to take place. On the face of it, based on the facts, it's a decision which none of us should have wanted to happen. Based on the evidence we have, until we either continue to improve or a clear and convincing reason for the sacking comes out, the obvious sensible conclusion (made without any joining of dots whatsoever) is that it's not a good decision - simply because we don't yet have any reasons to conclude that it was a good decision.

 

To come to the opposite conclusion can only be because you don't trust in Pearson's professionalism, but do trust unfailingly in the board's. It becomes a matter of faith, but there are plenty of reasons out there to trust and distrust both the board and the ex-manager.

 

That might change. But we're not debating the Princes in the Tower here, there's plenty of hard evidence at hand, and it's nowhere near enough to establish Pearson's guilt. Neither does it establish the board's, but they made the decision to remove him and, without us either learning more or, alternatively, the club going on to much better things in the future, the sacking will remain inexplicable and open to criticism.