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Charlie Austin £12m bid rejected

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Is he worth £15 million?

If he scores 17+ goals next season or even improves on this tally. I can only see his value increasing. Especially with the number of English players in 25 man squad increasing which is pushing values up. I cannot predict the future but watching him on last day of season his striker instincts and quality was evident.

Yes. Offer 12m plus Nugent should do the biz I reckon

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He would be a good buy. Young enough. £12 million plus Nugent would be decent business all round.

Nuge would have to agree, you'd need to incentivise him and he has a young family based in the North. Not sure this move would appeal to him but who knows

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Getting ahead of myself but if we bought him and he had a good season we could more than double our investment because of how much homegrown players are in demand.

That's not forgetting he's a very good footballer, adaptable, scores all kinds of goals, he's a good professional, scored at every level he's been at and in his peak.

This chance won't come around again. Not for Austin, not for any other similar player. I cannot fathom how anyone could be against this.

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Getting ahead of myself but if we bought him and he had a good season we could more than double our investment because of how much homegrown players are in demand.

That's not forgetting he's a very good footballer, adaptable, scores all kinds of goals, he's a good professional, scored at every level he's been at and in his peak.

This chance won't come around again. Not for Austin, not for any other similar player. I cannot fathom how anyone could be against this.

agree - my only concern is his fitness long term

Posted

Getting ahead of myself but if we bought him and he had a good season we could more than double our investment because of how much homegrown players are in demand.

That's not forgetting he's a very good footballer, adaptable, scores all kinds of goals, he's a good professional, scored at every level he's been at and in his peak.

This chance won't come around again. Not for Austin, not for any other similar player. I cannot fathom how anyone could be against this.

 

no offence but the idea that a 26 year old charlie austin having a good season for us would demand at least 30 million pounds is absurd, "homegrown" or not. 

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Austin is a quality player, Howe did well to bring him to Burnley only for gravel throat to ship him out for a measly 4m.

 

He's a goalscorer, proven in the Premier League as a goalscorer, even more so than Harry Kane due to Austin's byproduct being Joey Barton and not Christian Eriksen.

 

18 goals at this level, as prolific as he's been at previous levels tells you that he's adaptable, and could likely become a season top goalscorer if played right in an attacking team - for that proven ability at only 25 w/ non-league experience he's not overrated or overvalued for 15m, which is pretty cheap considering Kane is valued 40+ and Sterling 50+

 

As unlikely as Austin will want to come here, if he was to sign, I can see him and Vardy playing up top together with Ulloa, Kram / Okazaki benched and Nugent on his goodbyes. 

If he came in, with all the money the Thai's are throwing round, and we establish ourselves say in 12th position; there's no doubt that Austin's value will only go up, and that the 15m investment would only fail if his knee flairs up.

 

I'd pay the full 15m tbh, we might as well go for it now.

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no offence but the idea that a 26 year old charlie austin having a good season for us would demand at least 30 million pounds is absurd, "homegrown" or not. 

Why is it? Swansea got the exact same amount for Bony who's around the same age and the premium on English players is well established. This summer, Man City need to add more players to their squad that meet the homegrown criteria which explains their dogged pursuit of Sterling when hey could get a better foreign player for a lot less than what Liverpool are asking. Next year, they could be in a similar position or another top four club might be short of homegrown players. In which case, we'd be in a position to take them to the cleaners.

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Why is it? Swansea got the exact same amount for Bony who's around the same age and the premium on English players is well established. This summer, Man City need to add more players to their squad that meet the homegrown criteria. Next year, they could be in a similar position or another top four club might be short of homegrown players.

 

bony is in a different stratosphere to austin. 

 

i was simply saying i would be amazed if a leicester city striker who probably isn't going to improve much further at the age of 26, off the back of two decent premier league seasons for smaller clubs is worth 30,000,000 pounds. tbh i'm amazed how many want to spend £15m on him now. 

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bony is in a different stratosphere to austin. 

 

i was simply saying i would be amazed if a leicester city striker who probably isn't going to improve much further at the age of 26, off the back of two decent premier league seasons for smaller clubs is worth 30,000,000 pounds. tbh i'm amazed how many want to spend £15m on him now. 

 

But 15m is actually relatively cheap for Austin.

Posted

Would take Austin all day long even at £15 million, proven premier league goalscorer and adds competition to the squad or should we have kept Wood?

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But 15m is actually relatively cheap for Austin.

 

it's not really, is it. 

 

one season where he scored a good amount of goals for a team that went down and he's worth 15m? and that's cheap? 

 

 

also loving that harry kane is not a proven premier league striker cos it was flash in the pan and only lasted a season, yet austin is the most proven premier league striker there has ever been cos he scored goals for a whole season. this place. 

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it's not really, is it. 

 

one season where he scored a good amount of goals for a team that went down and he's worth 15m? and that's cheap? 

 

 

also loving that harry kane is not a proven premier league striker cos it was flash in the pan and only lasted a season, yet austin is the most proven premier league striker there has ever been cos he scored goals for a whole season. this place. 

 

 

I don't believe that anyone has said anything like that.

 

Plenty of people have said that Harry Kane isn't as good as the supposed 40m price tag on his head suggests. Which is a fair point.

 

15m for a relatively young English striker who scored over a goal every other game in the Premier League is relatively cheap though.

 

Personally i'd put Kane at about 25-30m whereas i'd put Austin at about 15-20m. Going on the prices going about nowadays.

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Austin scored goals in a very poor side and missed a few games as well, a player is only worth what somebody will pay and IMHO getting him in for £15 million would be good business as for Harry Kane flash in the pan or not he would be costing around £30 million at the moment. Anyway for all you doom merchants we need someone to replace GTF :ph34r:

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I don't believe that anyone has said anything like that.

Plenty of people have said that Harry Kane isn't as good as the supposed 40m price tag on his head suggests. Which is a fair point.

15m for a relatively young English striker who scored over a goal every other game in the Premier League is relatively cheap though.

Personally i'd put Kane at about 25-30m whereas i'd put Austin at about 15-20m. Going on the prices going about nowadays.

It was an extreme but it is true.

Harry Kane scores 20 odd goals a season but we don't like him; "only done it once not proven be in the championship on loan in 18 months".

Charlie Austin scores 17 (?) goals in his only top flight season, whilst a few years older; "buy him and he'll be worth £30m+ in a year".

Foxestalk logic innit.

Posted

15 million for a player out of contract in 12 months is not good business. Great season last season, yes but there are many one season wonder strikers who turned out to be shite - Andy Johnson, Michael Ricketts, James Beattie etc.

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It was an extreme but it is true.

Harry Kane scores 20 odd goals a season but we don't like him; "only done it once not proven be in the championship on loan in 18 months".

Charlie Austin scores 17 (?) goals in his only top flight season, whilst a few years older; "buy him and he'll be worth £30m+ in a year".

Foxestalk logic innit.

All that proves is that at least one person on this forum is extremely bitter about Kane's time here.

 

All the signs point to Austin being a good signing for a fair price.

 

Oh and the "buy him and he'll be worth £30m+ in a year" part. I said if he had a good season we could double our investment. If you're twisting quotes and using straw man arguments to argue why Austin would be a bad move then the only person you'll convince is yourself.

 

I'd be more than happy to start the season with our current strikers but if we have a chance of signing Austin, I think we should take it with both hands. He's definitely an upgrade, he works hard and the issues with his injuries are being exaggerated. His record isn't worse than the average player. Crucially, he's in his prime. 

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I don't think it'd be pointless I just think that almost doubling our record transfer could be much better spent elsewhere.

I don't think it's "value" when it's not a necessary signing.

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I don't think it'd be pointless I just think that almost doubling our record transfer could be much better spent elsewhere.

I don't think it's "value" when it's not a necessary signing.

 

So would you be happy if we sold Vardy for £15 million and spent it on Austin?

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So would you be happy if we sold Vardy for £15 million and spent it on Austin?

no

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it's not really, is it. 

 

one season where he scored a good amount of goals for a team that went down and he's worth 15m? and that's cheap? 

 

 

also loving that harry kane is not a proven premier league striker cos it was flash in the pan and only lasted a season, yet austin is the most proven premier league striker there has ever been cos he scored goals for a whole season. this place. 

 

It is really though, isn't it.

 

His yearly goalscoring stats are consistently good, he scored more goals in a weak QPR side in the Prem, than in a strong QPR side in the Champ - averaging way into the mid 10s year on year while improving every season. 

 

Also, never said Kane wasn't a proven PL striker, never suggested it was flash in the pan, and never said it only lasted a season - just simply saying, with the quality behind the poachers, Kane was Spurs' go to man as was Austin - but QPR didn't have the assist and productive ability of Erikson, Chadli, Lamela or a manager like Poch. The fact QPR got relegated is irrelevant when comparing Austin's goalscoring statistics, just shows how bad the rest of the side and defence were. 

 

Austin is a proven goalscorer with his Championship and now PL stats to back it up.

 

In this market, signing a PL 15+ goalscorer no matter what experience, nationality or league he's currently at doesn't come cheap. 15m IS cheap for Austin, he's a wanted man on many radars. If we don't pick him up, someone like Tottenham, Newcastle et al will, they'll play him, he'll score - they'll finish well and his value goes up. Being relegated with QPR now as a 'Championship striker' has lowered his sale price, if QPR were to have stayed up i imagine they would be pricing him in the 20s

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Couldn't agree more with redsoxuk.

Whoever he plays for, he will do well and this will be the best opportunity we get to sign an out and out quality striker. The amount of chances we missed last season would reduce with him in the team.

Really surprised at some people's lack of enthusiasm in signing him. Would happily get rid of ulloa and Nugent for him of required.

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People saying that Austin isn't worth 15 million are cringeworthy. If Vardy had scored 18 this season for us and someone come in with a 12 to 15 million bid we'd go nuts collectively if we let him go because the owners saw that as a good offer.

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I'd love Austin in the squad.and for 15mil for the second highest English goalscorer in the league... bargain. The owners can do what they want as long as we move onwards and upwards!

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