James McClean

[GaelicFox]

The English (in general), don't really have good grasp of Irish history, although things are changing now (see the Beeb's Easter Rising documentaries), so they don't really get that the symbols of patriotism (and Unionism), are also the symbols of Catholic oppression.

I think McLean is just a victim of that lack of understanding. MON rated him, and I do too.

Here here

But maybe next year City fans won't boo him because the boy but in a serious shift last night !

[Jpa1024]

Why should we appreciate the arrogant ****

If he hates this nation so much an that's his rightly choice why is he happy to take a wage from it, if I hated something or someone I'd have nothing to do with them what so ever, he refuses to wear a poppy, he turns his back on our national anthem but he's happy to earn a wage here, sorry that's not acceptable, he should go an play in the Irish league and earn his wage,

simple as that

[danny.]

Why should we appreciate the arrogant ****

If he hates this nation so much an that's his rightly choice why is he happy to take a wage from it, if I hated something or someone I'd have nothing to do with them what so ever, he refuses to wear a poppy, he turns his back on our national anthem but he's happy to earn a wage here, sorry that's not acceptable, he should go an play in the Irish league and earn his wage,

simple as that

 

You're lack of logic is staggering. Not wanting to wear a poppy or sing the national anthem does not mean that he hates an entire nation. I don't wear a red poppy and never would (pacifist), and I would never sing the national anthem (republican) - doesn't mean I hate the nation of England.

 

People do not need deporting or told they cannot work in the UK because they have different opinions to you. Great for you if you support war and are a Royalist, doesn't mean everyone that feels differently is wrong, or has no right to work/live on the same part of the planet as you - there is a word for that: bigotry.

[Daggers]

Why should we appreciate the arrogant ****

If he hates this nation so much an that's his rightly choice why is he happy to take a wage from it, if I hated something or someone I'd have nothing to do with them what so ever, he refuses to wear a poppy, he turns his back on our national anthem but he's happy to earn a wage here, sorry that's not acceptable, he should go an play in the Irish league and earn his wage,

simple as that

 

I don't wear a poppy or sing the national anthem. Where in the world would you like me to go in order to earn a living? And are you paying for the flights?

[The Railway Man]

Here here

But maybe next year City fans won't boo him because the boy but in a serious shift last night !

 

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

 

I don't wear a poppy or sing the national anthem. Where in the world would you like me to go in order to earn a living? And are you paying for the flights?

 

Everywhere has it's born and bred individuals that hate their own country, it's the principle he's prepared to move to ours to earn a good wage that people see as the problem.

 

If I hated the French, refuse to sing their anthem, hate the country I wouldn't move there to earn a very good living.

[Daggers]

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

 

 

Everywhere has it's born and bred individuals that hate their own country, it's the principle he's prepared to move to ours to earn a good wage that people see as the problem.

 

If I hated the French, refuse to sing their anthem, hate the country I wouldn't move there to earn a very good living.

 

I know why people dislike him, for their limited reasons. The reasons why this stance is inane have already been expressed in this thread, I don't expect anybody who is unable to grasp them to change their perspective.

[GaelicFox]

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

Everywhere has it's born and bred individuals that hate their own country, it's the principle he's prepared to move to ours to earn a good wage that people see as the problem.

If I hated the French, refuse to sing their anthem, hate the country I wouldn't move there to earn a very good living.

Ignorant bigot

[Finnegan]

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

Everywhere has it's born and bred individuals that hate their own country, it's the principle he's prepared to move to ours to earn a good wage that people see as the problem.

If I hated the French, refuse to sing their anthem, hate the country I wouldn't move there to earn a very good living.

So if you lived in France you'd sing their anthem at sporting events? what?

[GaelicFox]

So if you lived in France you'd sing their anthem at sporting events? what?

French like to cut off royals heads , maybe he Would follow suit

[The Railway Man]

Ignorant bigot

 

 

You'll win a Labour party membership with comments like that.

 

So if you lived in France you'd sing their anthem at sporting events? what?

 

Yeah, I lived in the States for a while, enjoyed belting out the anthem, nothing wrong with showing a bit of respect for the home nation.

 

Though I don't expect anybody who shows support for McClean to be capable of grasping that concept to change their perspective.

[danny.]

 

You'll win a Labour party membership with comments like that.

 

 

Yeah, I lived in the States for a while, enjoyed belting out the anthem, nothing wrong with showing a bit of respect for the home nation.

 

Though I don't expect anybody who shows support for McClean to be capable of grasping that concept to change their perspective.

 

I don't think they are given out as prizes.

[Voll Blau]

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

 

 

Everywhere has it's born and bred individuals that hate their own country, it's the principle he's prepared to move to ours to earn a good wage that people see as the problem.

 

If I hated the French, refuse to sing their anthem, hate the country I wouldn't move there to earn a very good living.

 

Like the freedom not to honour them if we don't choose to you mean? I'll always remember our war dead but I'm glad we live in a nation where we can be free to express opinions like McClean's, regardless of how abhorrent we may find them.

[danny.]

Why are we equating singing a song or wearing a flower with honouring a nation?

[GaelicFox]

You'll win a Labour party membership with comments like that.

Yeah, I lived in the States for a while, enjoyed belting out the anthem, nothing wrong with showing a bit of respect for the home nation.

Though I don't expect anybody who shows support for McClean to be capable of grasping that concept to change their perspective.

Singing the American anthem

You do know McClean is was born in this country , don't you ?

When you stop sounding like alf garnet , singing the American anthem and abusing British born people for being .....British , you might get some time to develop some self awareness

I'm a card carrying Labour Party member for 21 years ! Not that it matters a Jot

[The Railway Man]

Singing the American anthem

You do know McClean is was born in this country , don't you ?

When you stop sounding like alf garnet , singing the American anthem and abusing British born people for being .....British , you might get some time to develop some self awareness

I'm a card carrying Labour Party member for 21 years ! Not that it matters a Jot

 

Yeah I'm not surprised at that, the running around calling everyone who disagrees with you a bigot or a racist sort of gives it away.

 

McClean was born in Derry as well.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McClean

[GaelicFox]

Why are we equating singing a song or wearing a flower with honouring a nation?

Good question

I think it's because it's the last bastion of nationalism left in this country

I wish the British especially the English would celebrate thier nationhood a bit more

Might mean I could get to the bar on st Patrick's day !!!

[GaelicFox]

Yeah I'm not surprised at that, the running around calling everyone who disagrees with you a bigot or a racist sort of gives it away.

McClean was born in Derry as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McClean

Derry is in the United Kingdom , England isn't a seperate state , it's the seat of parliament for the United Kingdom the money generated in this country is the GB pound , the poppy is a United Kingdom initative he was born in this state!

"Come over here" ha ha ha

if it sounds like a duck , walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a fecking bigoted duck

[The Railway Man]

Derry is in the United Kingdom , England isn't a seperate state , it's the seat of parliament for the United Kingdom the money generated in this country is the GB pound , the poppy is a United Kingdom initative he was born in this state!

"Come over here" ha ha ha

if it sounds like a duck , walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a fecking bigoted duck

 

Racist Racist Racist!! You have a choice these days born in the North, McClean chooses to be Irish, not British.

 

For what it's worth I think McClean gets the most abuse because of his childish petulant acts like turning his back on flags rather than the poppy episode, as Pulis has said before, he isn't the brightest and probably doesn't realise the consequences of his actions.

 

I'm not really that bothered, the guy is just an idiot.

[GaelicFox]

Racist Racist Racist!! You have a choice these days born in the North, McClean chooses to be Irish, not British.

For what it's worth I think McClean gets the most abuse because of his childish petulant acts like turning his back on flags rather than the poppy episode, as Pulis has said before, he isn't the brightest and probably doesn't realise the consequences of his actions.

I'm not really that bothered, the guy is just an idiot.

I agreed he is dumb , your dumber (joke)

You two could actually be good mates

He doesn't help himself that's true

But as a city fan I'm grateful for his efforts last night , that was the point I was trying to make , he did us a good turn last night.

[The Railway Man]

I agreed he is dumb , your dumber (joke)

 

"You're" dumber you mean.

[bovril]

Racist Racist Racist!! You have a choice these days born in the North, McClean chooses to be Irish, not British.

 

For what it's worth I think McClean gets the most abuse because of his childish petulant acts like turning his back on flags rather than the poppy episode, as Pulis has said before, he isn't the brightest and probably doesn't realise the consequences of his actions.

 

I'm not really that bothered, the guy is just an idiot.

 

He didn't call you a racist though, did he. He called you a bigot. It seems, rather ironically, you're playing the race card in an attempt to deflect attention away from your ramblings above.

[Captain...]

We'll still boo him, he's a hypocrite and someone who refuses to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of.

 

 

He doesn't "refuse to honour the people who created the freedoms he now takes advantage of". He refuses to wear a poppy becomes it signifies a lot more than that. He has no problem with the people that fought in the World Wars. His issue is with the soldiers that killed his friends and family that are also represented by the poppy.

[GaelicFox]

"You're" dumber you mean.

No chief

Your the dumber part of the referenced analogy which was "dumb and dumber"

So if he is "dumb" , your the "dumber" half of that duo

Your ...Dumber

How apt

[GaelicFox]

He didn't call you a racist though, did he. He called you a bigot. It seems, rather ironically, you're playing the race card in an attempt to deflect attention away from your ramblings above.

Dumber was struggling to justify how he wasn't a bigot so he cracked on with defending something he wasn't accused of

He is quite confused

[The Railway Man]

No chief

Your the dumber part of the referenced analogy which was "dumb and dumber"

So if he is "dumb" , your the "dumber" half of that duo

Your ...Dumber

How apt

 

If you are using that analogy then it's still "You're" not "Your".

 

Wow.