James McClean

[GaelicFox]

The English FA and Scottish FA have been banned by uEFA/FIFA  from wearing Poppies and the penalty will be a fine 

 

the English FA obviously don't think much to this tradition as they will comply with uEFA/fifa's directive 

 

it seems james McClean isn't the only person not too bothered about the poppies 

 

on another point every one of the MP's who voted for an illegal war in Iraq will be wearing poppies on the 11th yet they murdered 1m in Iraq and sent hundreds of brave British boys and girls go their death ... 

 

i know who is disrespecting the poppy more and it's not a scruffy kid from the bogside in Derry 

[GaelicFox]

On 31/10/2016 at 11:30, ScouseFox said:

finners is as anti english and disrespectful as james mcclean no wonder he's in here sticking up for him 

No Finners has just got an evolved brain 

 

yours is still wondering how the red magic hot glow called "f-i-r-e" will heat your cave ! 

[GaelicFox]

Who disrespects the poppy more !

 

1) An immature , stupid and poorly advised young man from a City where the British army murdered 15 of his neighbours

 

or

 

2) an English man who murdered hundreds of British men while committing war crimes  

 

The answer is an easy one 

 

 

[GaelicFox]

On 31/10/2016 at 11:23, davieG said:

.....or maybe not

 

JAMES McClean will miss Sunday's Premier League encounter against champions Leicester City through suspension.
Read more at http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/west-brom-albion-james-mcclean-premier-league-leicester-suspended-3391877.aspx#hFKj67Omg5szj8b7.99

Thank god for that ! 

 

 

[GaelicFox]

23 hours ago, Finnegan said:

I personally don't wear one. I dislike how remembrance for the world wars is slowly being hijacked by remembrance for the armed forces in general. 

 

Conscripts and volunteers that literally defended the country and the continent from fascism? We shouldn't forget.

 

Professionals being sent to meddle in Iraq or Afghanistan? That was their chosen career path. Some of them are no doubt heroic but not every serviceman is by default, I've never gotten why they get put on a pedestal.

The day the poppy died ! 

[Nick]

 

 

I can see it from both sides to be fair.

 

I like the white poppy idea which to me is not about peace as such but remembering both the service people and victims of all conflicts.

 

 

[foxy boxing]

the poppy should just be a symbol to remember all those who have lost their lives in war and should not be made to be political. it is about showing your respect at those who have died in war not about supporting the reasons for going to war

[GaelicFox]

2 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

the poppy should just be a symbol to remember all those who have lost their lives in war and should not be made to be political. it is about showing your respect at those who have died in war not about supporting the reasons for going to war

That's exactly what it should be , but it has become quite a nationalistic symbol 

 

I actually think it's for remembrance Sunday or the 11th only , I feel it's become a symbolic badge and is worn now by some to proclaim some  sort of British pride  

 

I have decided to wear one on rememberance Sunday because I searched the rememberance website of the Great War and found 3 young men with my full name , and one was from a village 5 miles from me in ireland , many Irish men gave their lives and for those men I'll wear my first poppy now I feel an affiliation with them 3 lads. 

 

but I would never castigate anyone who desides not to wear one ! That's actually against the spirit of the reasons those many many men and boys died. 

 

All wars are futile and never achieve a great deal , but those that fight and then die need to be respected for giving that service and sacrifice 

 

james McClean is a gobshite , and he hasn't helped the cause at all ! 

[AKCJ]

18 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

the poppy should just be a symbol to remember all those who have lost their lives in war and should not be made to be political. it is about showing your respect at those who have died in war not about supporting the reasons for going to war

It is exactly that.

 

Not sure its ever been portrayed in any other way.

 

The poppy respects British soldiers who have died fighting to enable us all to live the privileged lives we live today (some more privileged than others, eh James?)

[AKCJ]

12 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

I feel it's become a symbolic badge and is worn now by some to proclaim some  sort of British pride 

I certainly feel very proud to be British when wearing one.

[Guest MattP]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I certainly feel very proud to be British when wearing one.

Same, I'm very proud of my country and my ancestors giving their lives for the freedom that we now enjoy.

 

I don't like the "poppy fascism" some engage in though.

[Samilktray]

Nah I don't wear poppies. They fvck up the aesthetic of my outfit. 

[RonnieTodger]

There's a very strange obsession with poppies. I wear one, but couldn't care less if someone doesn't. 

Has it always been such a massive deal when someone in the public eye doesn't wear one?

[GaelicFox]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I certainly feel very proud to be British when wearing one.

your statement actually exonerates James McClean , and sort of confirms my thoughts that it's now a Badge of Britishness a celebration of victory and British pride rather than a symbol of deep sorrow and regret for the waste of life. 

 

I'll be wearing it and I will be proud to remember all soldiers who have fallen in conflict British and otherwise  , I can feel no pride in war , I think war is futile and makes evil Men powerful and good men weak , I could never be proud to wear a remembrance symbol because that would suggest pride in the need less loss of life

 

I will wear that poppie in the hope the symbol will offer peace and hope a chance were war and death have failed us. 

 

I respect your pride in your country it's just for me incongruent to associate the poppy A symbol of remembrance and sorrow with pride. 

 

Now im wondering if it's right to wear it at all now .... confused and unsure now 

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, GaelicFox said:

your statement actually exonerates James McClean , and sort of confirms my thoughts that it's now a Badge of Britishness a celebration of victory and British pride rather than a symbol of deep sorrow and regret for the waste of life. 

 

I'll be wearing it and I will be proud to remember all soldiers who have fallen in conflict British and otherwise  , I can feel no pride in war , I think war is futile and makes evil Men powerful and good men weak , I could never be proud to wear a remembrance symbol because that would suggest pride in the need less loss of life

 

I will wear that poppie in the hope the symbol will offer peace and hope a chance were war and death have failed us. 

 

I respect your pride in your country it's just for me incongruent to associate the poppy A symbol of remembrance and sorrow with pride. 

 

Now im wondering if it's right to wear it at all now .... confused and unsure now 

It's all about remembering British soldiers and funding the Royal British Legion. I'm proud of my Great Granddads who both fought in world wars, it's why I wear a Poppy.

 

It's a celebration of British freedom. A celebration of British bravery. 

 

[Mark_w]

13 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

It's a celebration of British freedom. A celebration of British bravery. 

It ought to be a celebration of human bravery and a commemoration of human loss really. Celebrating British freedom feels a little distasteful based on this state's track record.

[GaelicFox]

28 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

It's all about remembering British soldiers and funding the Royal British Legion. I'm proud of my Great Granddads who both fought in world wars, it's why I wear a Poppy.

 

It's a celebration of British freedom. A celebration of British bravery. 

 

The British legion do great work with service men I have family that also faught for and served the queen and my nephew who is from the west coast of ireland starts his basic training at catterick 

 

 

I think the legion who do great work all over the world would be the first to recognise that the remembrance Poppy's history goes way beyond Briton

 

I'll leave it here the poem by a Canadian medic that inspired an American professor  to produce red silk poppies that a French woman took to London to sell ..... 

 

 

IN FLANDERS FIELDS

In Flanders' fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders' fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe;
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high,
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow  
In Flanders' Fields.

[AKCJ]

28 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

It ought to be a celebration of human bravery and a commemoration of human loss really. Celebrating British freedom feels a little distasteful based on this state's track record.

Celebration is probably the wrong word. Can't really think what the word is but at this time of year I just think "Thank **** our side won".

[Strokes]

2 hours ago, Mark_w said:

It ought to be a celebration of human bravery and a commemoration of human loss really. Celebrating British freedom feels a little distasteful based on this state's track record.

You don't know you are born if you think we are oppressed.

[Mark_w]

Just now, Strokes said:

You don't know you are born if you think we are oppressed.

That's not even close to what I was saying.

[Footballwipe]

 

Unfortunately in the day of social media this is the level any debate sinks to. Spread a lie to get a load of retweets. If anyone is disrespecting the poppy it's the person running this account in a shameless attempt to publicise it.

[Spiritwalker]

22 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

Who disrespects the poppy more !

 

1) An immature , stupid and poorly advised young man from a City where the British army murdered 15 of his neighbours

 

or

 

2) an English man who murdered hundreds of British men while committing war crimes  

 

The answer is an easy one 

 

 

He looks like the bad kid off Breaking Bad.

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, Spiritwalker said:

He looks like the bad kid off Breaking Bad.

 

 

ya he does never noticed before 

[Manwell Pablo]

On 11/1/2016 at 14:22, GaelicFox said:

That's exactly what it should be , but it has become quite a nationalistic symbol 

 

I actually think it's for remembrance Sunday or the 11th only , I feel it's become a symbolic badge and is worn now by some to proclaim some  sort of British pride  

 

I have decided to wear one on rememberance Sunday because I searched the rememberance website of the Great War and found 3 young men with my full name , and one was from a village 5 miles from me in ireland , many Irish men gave their lives and for those men I'll wear my first poppy now I feel an affiliation with them 3 lads. 

 

but I would never castigate anyone who desides not to wear one ! That's actually against the spirit of the reasons those many many men and boys died. 

 

All wars are futile and never achieve a great deal , but those that fight and then die need to be respected for giving that service and sacrifice 

 

james McClean is a gobshite , and he hasn't helped the cause at all ! 

 

Well no not really but I get the sentiement. The first World War yes I have no idea how it escalated into the bloody conflict that it did, many a theory knocking around, but I think had the main players known what we know about modern warfare you perhaps might have seen a more conservative approach, the way wars were fought changed dramatically during this conflict, I don't think either side were quite ready or were expecting the four years that followed.

 

World War 2 was necessary, in fact I would argue we should of kicked off a lot sooner than we did we might not have ended up in the shit back to the walls situation that we found ourselves in.  

[GaelicFox]

35 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Well no not really but I get the sentiement. The first World War yes I have no idea how it escalated into the bloody conflict that it did, many a theory knocking around, but I think had the main players known what we know about modern warfare you perhaps might have seen a more conservative approach, the way wars were fought changed dramatically during this conflict, I don't think either side were quite ready or were expecting the four years that followed.

 

World War 2 was necessary, in fact I would argue we should of kicked off a lot sooner than we did we might not have ended up in the shit back to the walls situation that we found ourselves in.  

I take your point and yes of course mad men need to be stopped as soon as well can but history shows our political guardians of being inept of acting quickly

 

I think I'm agreeing with you.