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James McClean

By DEMANN, in General Football and Sport

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Manwell Pablo

Manwell Pablo

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15 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Dunno about you, but I live for this time of year when neanderthals come out and abuse James McClean for his freedom to choose to wear what he wants.

 

Fantastic for football accounts though: "James McClean didn't wear a poppy on his shirt. RT for a disgrace, like for support."

 

Can we pinpoint when wearing a poppy became absolutely mandatory or is it just how society has negatively evolved?

 

I know looaaddss of people who don't ware poppy's, most of them English, I know a bloke who doesn't recognize remembrance day and has no respect for the armed forces, his view is it's their job, their choice to go and fight, and their problem if they die in the process (he does cavieat it by saying he has sympathy for conscripted troops). lol backwards view if you ask me but some people have strange opinions but you can't tell them they aren't allowed them, if we are not free to be ourselves those men died for nothing.

The Railway Man

The Railway Man

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7 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

I know looaaddss of people who don't ware poppy's, most of them English, I know a bloke who doesn't recognize remembrance day and has no respect for the armed forces, his view is it's their job, their choice to go and fight, and their problem if they die in the process (he does cavieat it by saying he has sympathy for conscripted troops). lol backwards view if you ask me but some people have strange opinions but you can't tell them they aren't allowed them, if we are not free to be ourselves those men died for nothing.

Absolutely right.

 

Although that obviously also includes to freedom to show displeasure at the hypocrisy of McClean.

filbertstreet

filbertstreet

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6 minutes ago, The Railway Man said:

What will he do while the minutes silence is on if he starts? Stand away from everyone like a petulant child again like he did when the national anthem played?

scat sing jazz for a minute I assume

The Railway Man

The Railway Man

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37 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Oh god. A whole game of god save the queen, ingurlund and fvck the ira.

 

Just what a 21st century football crowd should be all about. Ugh.

It was great after the rendition when he got subbed though and most of the home end joined in and then gave us a standing ovation, very rare you see football fans joining together to shwo support for something.

 

What's wrong with singing GSTQ though? Would anyone bat an eyelid at Cardiff fans singing Lands of my Fathers or Dundee fans singing Flower of Scotland?

Finnegan

Finnegan

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Just now, The Railway Man said:

It was great after the rendition when he got subbed though and most of the home end joined in and then gave us a standing ovation, very rare you see football fans joining together to shwo support for something.

 

What's wrong with singing GSTQ though? Would anyone bat an eyelid at Cardiff fans singing Lands of my Fathers or Dundee fans singing Flower of Scotland?

 

I think you've deliberately missing the point.

 

It's not like we sing the national anthem at every fixture, is it?

 

Singing it at an Irish player as a political statement is just dumb.

 

Just ignore the bloke and support your team.

ScouseFox

ScouseFox

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finners is as anti english and disrespectful as james mcclean no wonder he's in here sticking up for him :rolleyes:

Manwell Pablo

Manwell Pablo

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4 minutes ago, The Railway Man said:

Absolutely right.

 

Although that obviously also includes to freedom to show displeasure at the hypocrisy of McClean.

 

Nothing wrong with showing displeasure, line sort of gets drawn for me when people start saying he should be deported for his opinion. 

 

 

Finnegan

Finnegan

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1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Nothing wrong with showing displeasure, line sort of gets drawn for me when people start saying he should be deported for his opinion. 

 

 

 

Especially when, despite his personal views on the matter, he was born in the UK. lol

Manwell Pablo

Manwell Pablo

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18 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Especially when, despite his personal views on the matter, he was born in the UK. lol

 

Yeah he was wasn't he. lol 

 

I personally, while think he is pretty dumb, get why he doesn't wear one, people forget this is something he will have had drummed into from an early age you would presume.

Finnegan

Finnegan

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I personally don't wear one. I dislike how remembrance for the world wars is slowly being hijacked by remembrance for the armed forces in general. 

 

Conscripts and volunteers that literally defended the country and the continent from fascism? We shouldn't forget.

 

Professionals being sent to meddle in Iraq or Afghanistan? That was their chosen career path. Some of them are no doubt heroic but not every serviceman is by default, I've never gotten why they get put on a pedestal.

AKCJ

AKCJ

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

I think you've deliberately missing the point.

 

It's not like we sing the national anthem at every fixture, is it?

 

Singing it at an Irish player as a political statement is just dumb.

 

Just ignore the bloke and support your team.

To be fair, have you ever sung GSTQ? lol

Finnegan

Finnegan

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Just now, AKCJ said:

To be fair, have you ever sung GSTQ? lol

 

Never, no. lol

 

Or at least, I've sung along but with my own words. Er, word.

 

Goes like this:

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

fuchsntf

fuchsntf

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4 hours ago, The Railway Man said:

It was great after the rendition when he got subbed though and most of the home end joined in and then gave us a standing ovation, very rare you see football fans joining together to shwo support for something.

 

What's wrong with singing GSTQ though? Would anyone bat an eyelid at Cardiff fans singing Lands of my Fathers or Dundee fans singing Flower of Scotland?

Strange innit..!!!  Our Brit neighbours can say and sing what and when they like...

WE even begin to whistle anything English or UK relevant, we are outed as slave lords...

Mind you I am a republican, but its the Hypocrisy in the contradictions that are laughable.

Ever notice, the reporters in any English journals tend to be Welsh, Scots or Irish...

Shit Stirring jealous moaners Usually....Why its known the English cant write.

Guilty feelings I suppose, that it was their own that always sold their own out

through time immemorial then blame their history on the Anglos..:rolleyes:         

 

RonnieTodger

RonnieTodger

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5 hours ago, The Railway Man said:

It was great after the rendition when he got subbed though and most of the home end joined in and then gave us a standing ovation, very rare you see football fans joining together to shwo support for something.

 

What's wrong with singing GSTQ though? Would anyone bat an eyelid at Cardiff fans singing Lands of my Fathers or Dundee fans singing Flower of Scotland?

Nothing, but it's only sung to try and antagonise people. Anyone that gets wound up by that is even more stupid than the people that sing it.

 

Also, it's a shockingly bad anthem.

FLAN

FLAN

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Lets see how many of the England or Scotland players stand up for what they believe in at Wembley and defy FIFA by wearing one. Don't hold your breath on their principles being displayed ...

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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4 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Lets see how many of the England or Scotland players stand up for what they believe in at Wembley and defy FIFA by wearing one. Don't hold your breath on their principles being displayed ...

Given the FA want to know what the punishment is I think they are preparing to defy the ban, as they should.

 

The reasons given by FIFA are ludicrous anyway, I've seen numerous political statements or campaigns at International matches from anti-racism campaigns to tributes to Nelson Mandela.

Darkon84

Darkon84

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37 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Lets see how many of the England or Scotland players stand up for what they believe in at Wembley and defy FIFA by wearing one. Don't hold your breath on their principles being displayed ...

 

As Matt said, we are still waiting to see what the punishment will be. If it's just a fine, then I'd imagine both the English and Scottish FA's will defy them and go ahead with embroidered poppies on the shirts, then just take the minimal financial hit. If it's a points deduction, they'll compromise and get around it by getting poppies embroidered on players boots, on the training tops and wearing black armbands with poppies on, similarly to what England did against Spain in 2011.

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