justfoxes Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 I've been up all night putting this one together so i'm a bit tired. I'm meant to be out today within a few hours for the Melbourne Cup, not sure if i'll have the energy but we'll see. ANYWAY. I've put together a video video based story, whatever you might call it, of the Club's historic rise to third position on the table in the Premier League since our incredible challenge from bottom of the table, facing relegation. Enjoy the video, hopefully, i'm going to catch a bit of sleep before i leave the house. Enjoy fellas! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz159p9VR7I Absolutely FOOKING superb!!
gw_leics772 Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 BRLLIANT, real hairs on he back of the neck stuff and more proof that leicester Will be the death of me. Needed to have an extra ciggie on my break to watch that.
shen Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 Would've liked the West Ham highlights from last season as well as the doom and gloom after the Hull game. The farcical Spurs game that epitomised our (lack of) luck all season. Just to point out that our amazing run really came out of the blue. Other than that, decent effort
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 Without Supporters a Football Club is nothing. I thought the Leicester City Football Club was a supporter's Club. Unfortunately, taking down a supporters hard work piece says otherwise. Disgrace.
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 Quite a cvntish action by the club to be fair. Clearly a hard worked fan video doing no harm.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 Quite a cvntish action by the club to be fair. Clearly a hard worked fan video doing no harm.Not sure what the reasoning behind it is. Has me bewildered!The supporters love the videos, I enjoy making them, where's the problem here? They can't claim copyright as NONE of the footage is owned by them anyway. Poor form imo.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 Jokes on them, I still have the video and I can upload it elsewhere. Good luck taking it down anywhere else!
AKCJ Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 Might well be a bitter pill to swallow but the club pay people to make these videos to promote their social media profile. I imagine they're not too happy about other people profiting from their image. Which is fair enough.
Lestoh Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 He's not profiting from it though - it's a fan video. It'll be because the clips used were copyright, bit pathetic tho tbh.
AKCJ Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 He's not profiting from it though - it's a fan video. It'll be because the clips used were copyright, bit pathetic tho tbh. He's gaining views that club are losing out on. Might seem petty but it's not one rule for one and another rule for othes.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 He's gaining views that club are losing out on. Might seem petty but it's not one rule for one and another rule for othes. I can tell you now they're not losing anything. I work at a sports club (local) doing Media work and if the Club I work at were big enough to have passionate supporters doing pieces we'd be happy to share it through social media.I got work experience at the biggest sporting Club in Australia doing work like this and even had my piece's posted on the Club website, we contact each other on a basis. Most Club's love fan made stuff, not sure how or why this is different. I'd be stoked if I were on the board at LCFC having fans, especially outside of the UK, making content expressing the Club's values in a positive image. That's how Club's gain fans. The first thing a potential fan of a Club would do is jump onto google or youtube and do a background check on the Club. Nothing malicious about what I'm doing by any means - and if the Media department at the Club circle this forum I hope they see this post and understand where I'm coming from.
marko Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 He's gaining views that club are losing out on. Might seem petty but it's not one rule for one and another rule for othes. You're not restricted to watching one video. I watch no end of fan made videos, but always watch the club's official videos too.
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 Might well be a bitter pill to swallow but the club pay people to make these videos to promote their social media profile. I imagine they're not too happy about other people profiting from their image. Which is fair enough. He's gaining views that club are losing out on. Might seem petty but it's not one rule for one and another rule for othes. Any plans to expand the stadium Susan?
Countryfox Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 Whats really annoying is I haven't seen it ... Come on LCFC put it back and show the human face of Prem big business.
AKCJ Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 You're not restricted to watching one video. I watch no end of fan made videos, but always watch the club's official videos too. But when the club spend time, effort and money on making these videos do you not see why they'd be miffed at someone else trying to cash in? (not in terms of money, but views).
marko Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 But when the club spend time, effort and money on making these videos do you not see why they'd be miffed at someone else trying to cash in? (not in terms of money, but views). To be brutally honest, not really. As George said he's not making profit from it and at the end of the day it's more exposure for Leicester City. They're not losing any views to fan videos as I dare say 99.9% of fans look at the official videos first and then find videos like George's from the 'recommended for you' tab.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 But when the club spend time, effort and money on making these videos do you not see why they'd be miffed at someone else trying to cash in? (not in terms of money, but views). They're doing what they're paid to do - and that's to push out content. I've put in just as much time and effort as they would (six hours in the early hours of the morning 1-7am). Views? I couldn't care if only one person or 5 million people saw the video, i'm doing what i love doing, i make video's to show my support and passion for this Club and other supporters, neutrals even love seeing a story based video of the success of our Club. Had the FA opted to take it down, i'd be a little less pissed off about it. But to have a nerve as a professional sporting Club to take down someone else's hard made work from the other side of the world, at the age of twenty, trying to get his name out there and build a profile, it's very frustrating and disappointing to see from the club i love. But, from what i've learnt, sporting Club's aren't what they might've used to be, it's more about a 'corporate' sort of thing and if they think you pose a threat to them making a simple passionate video for fan's, then it's pretty childish.
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 The day our club becomes entirely corporate/profit orientated is the day we lose it as far as I'm concerned. A few views lost to a fan video? Big ****ing deal. Their action isn't justifiable as much as you try. It is simply pathetic.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 The day our club becomes entirely corporate/profit orientated is the day we lose it as far as I'm concerned. A few views lost to a fan video? Big ****ing deal. Their action isn't justifiable as much as you try. It is simply pathetic. My exact point. It's saying A LOT about them at the moment. Has me disgusted. Won't stop supporting as i f**king love this club, but it's a bitter feeling at the moment. My exact point. It's saying A LOT about them at the moment. Has me disgusted. Won't stop supporting as i f**king love this club, but it's a bitter feeling at the moment. Added to it, had we not been in the Premier League and not getting this much exposure, would they have still taken the video down? Food for thought. Would love a 'please explain' from the Club.
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 These were the comments that were made on the video. This is why i do what i love and will continue to pursue these video's no matter this event. I'm not done with, yet.
Footballwipe Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 But no-one asked you to put in that effort, and you said it yourself, you did it because you love it not for the views. Sit back and enjoy the work and plaudits that you managed to cultivate over that period of time, and elsewhere should you decide to upload it. It's obviously a very good video and very popular, but it's only the club looking after either their own or the leagues IP. I'm surprived the Premier League didn't stamp down on it first to be honest, you know how hot they can be on things like this. For all we know they might be compelled to take this action under the rules of the PL to make sure this content doesn't end up freely available (there are arguments about lack of consistency on all levels for this on YT, plus the ease of accessing PL games both during and after broadcast on the internet.) I don't buy the argument about website traffic and "views," this is all on the use of copyrighted material, not the fear that thousand views have gone missing. There's no evidence for that. Maybe if the club were uploading content like that to the channel but they're not. Notice there's no PL goals or footage on YT, only Football Leagur and FA-related content. Your emotion is obviously clouding your judgement here but that's to be expected, especially when you voluntarily spent half the night doing it. But the fact is you had no explicit permissions to use the copyrighted material you did, so you can't really complain when the club call it in. If any of my videos are third party claimed or removed I'm not fussed, at the end of the day I'm uploading someone else's work, my main aim is for people to enjoy what I upload. Suck it up and stick it in your portfolio for future use, the skills are obviously there; you'll be a master compilation editor yet. It's not a malicious removal, they haven't seen it and gone "cor this looks popular let's take it down like nasty scrooges"
possiblygeorge Posted 11 November 2015 Author Posted 11 November 2015 But no-one asked you to put in that effort, and you said it yourself, you did it because you love it not for the views. Sit back and enjoy the work and plaudits that you managed to cultivate over that period of time, and elsewhere should you decide to upload it. It's obviously a very good video and very popular, but it's only the club looking after either their own or the leagues IP. I'm surprived the Premier League didn't stamp down on it first to be honest, you know how hot they can be on things like this. For all we know they might be compelled to take this action under the rules of the PL to make sure this content doesn't end up freely available (there are arguments about lack of consistency on all levels for this on YT, plus the ease of accessing PL games both during and after broadcast on the internet.) I don't buy the argument about website traffic and "views," this is all on the use of copyrighted material, not the fear that thousand views have gone missing. There's no evidence for that. Maybe if the club were uploading content like that to the channel but they're not. Notice there's no PL goals or footage on YT, only Football Leagur and FA-related content. Your emotion is obviously clouding your judgement here but that's to be expected, especially when you voluntarily spent half the night doing it. But the fact is you had no explicit permissions to use the copyrighted material you did, so you can't really complain when the club call it in. If any of my videos are third party claimed or removed I'm not fussed, at the end of the day I'm uploading someone else's work, my main aim is for people to enjoy what I upload. Suck it up and stick it in your portfolio for future use, the skills are obviously there; you'll be a master compilation editor yet. It's not a malicious removal, they haven't seen it and gone "cor this looks popular let's take it down like nasty scrooges" My point here is, if't it's owned by FA or whoever else, for whatever reason it might be, it's within THEIR jurisdiction, only, to take it down, no one else's. The Club could've gone about this in a better manner, whether i'm wrong or right, i don't think the Club should've done it. They should be in awe that someone is helping give the Club exposure worldwide
Footballwipe Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 My point here is, if't it's owned by FA or whoever else, for whatever reason it might be, it's within THEIR jurisdiction, only, to take it down, no one else's. The Club could've gone about this in a better manner, whether i'm wrong or right, i don't think the Club should've done it. They should be in awe that someone is helping give the Club exposure worldwide It won't be owned by the FA, it'll be owned by the Premier League. My earlier point was that this might be part of the PL's audio/visual rules that if the club spot any copyright infringment they take it down to help protect the content of the league they're part of. I don't think they're worried about worldwide exposure, either. Being beamed to many countries across the world, taking part in the most popular professionall football league on the planet and the awareness around the world based on the players we currently possess will do enough of that, not a few fan-made YouTube videos!
EnglishOxide Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 Just re-upload it somewhere else for the time being. Or will that not get enough views for you? The fact that you are moaning about it so much tells me that you were hoping for a popularity boost on the back of our success. Maybe you should contact the club about this and the reasons rather than looking for sympathy here.
goose2010 Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I'm not defending the club in the slightest here but the only thing I can think is that when Leicester City put their official youtube channel up its probably an agreement between them and youtube that will automatically remove anything that isn't official Leicester City. Yours was a positive video basically promoting Leicester but say you made an anti Leicester slagging them off and branding it with their name they would want that removed. So its probably nothing against your video, its will just be a blanket to cover all things Leicester City that isn't official, which is a bit sad really as fan videos tend to be better than the official ones,
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