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It baffles me how anyone could hold such bitter contempt for an ex-manager who achieved what Pearson did

 

It allows the Pearson haters to justify their hatred. It's like when they say "We stayed up in spite of him" but without a jot of fact to back it up.

 

 

NP is A good championship manager, however CR has shown how technically inept NP was at EPL level

 

Comparing apples and oranges there. Ranieri is very experienced at the top level. That was Pearson's first at the top level. He was unlikely to be flawless. Still kept them up...

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Someone is looking for a new job, eh Nige?

Nothing wrong with that.

 

Only a fool or a very bitter individual wouldn't credit Pearson with the rebuilding job he did for this club.

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I often wonder what these people that still adore Pearson so much would have said if Ranieri had come in, changed very little and we'd struggled this year. I'd imagine it would have all been CR's fault!

 

I also think it's disrespectful to Claudio to give Pearson so much of the credit for this season's success. His team played poor more times than it played well last season and only really improved when they had nothing to lose.

 

I'm not dismissing all the work he's done in the previous seasons with our two promotions and even the things going on behind the scenes, although I haven't been convinced that he was entirely responsible for all of that, but we need to give credit where credit is due to our current management team. Perhaps our success has more to do with his assistants that are still here than NP's influence, but we won't know until they leave or if Pearson makes a success of another club.

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I often wonder what these people that still adore Pearson so much would have said if Ranieri had come in, changed very little and we'd struggled this year. I'd imagine it would have all been CR's fault!

I also think it's disrespectful to Claudio to give Pearson so much of the credit for this season's success. His team played poor more times than it played well last season and only really improved when they had nothing to lose.

I'm not dismissing all the work he's done in the previous seasons with our two promotions and even the things going on behind the scenes, although I haven't been convinced that he was entirely responsible for all of that, but we need to give credit where credit is due to our current management team. Perhaps our success has more to do with his assistants that are still here than NP's influence, but we won't know until they leave or if Pearson makes a success of another club.

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I often wonder what these people that still adore Pearson so much would have said if Ranieri had come in, changed very little and we'd struggled this year. I'd imagine it would have all been CR's fault!

 

I also think it's disrespectful to Claudio to give Pearson so much of the credit for this season's success. His team played poor more times than it played well last season and only really improved when they had nothing to lose.

 

I'm not dismissing all the work he's done in the previous seasons with our two promotions and even the things going on behind the scenes, although I haven't been convinced that he was entirely responsible for all of that, but we need to give credit where credit is due to our current management team. Perhaps our success has more to do with his assistants that are still here than NP's influence, but we won't know until they leave or if Pearson makes a success of another club.

I don't adore Pearson, I was one of the loudest defending the club for sacking him preseason but credit where credit's due he totally rebuilt this from it's lowest ebb. He deserves our thanks for that.

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Sorry forgot to write something after the quote. Kasper has said it, that the best thing he has done is not to change too much, think his opinion is going to be pretty spot on.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/10107428/kasper-schmeichel-praises-leicester-boss-claudio-ranieri

Last season was a massive learning curve for him and the squad, but at the end of the day he smashed the objectives in style at the end.

Credit has to go for pearson for recognising the talents of the backroom team in the first place. Where was the demand for walsh when pearson recruited him for his backrrom staff at league one level??

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Nothing wrong with that.

 

Only a fool or a very bitter individual wouldn't credit Pearson with the rebuilding job he did for this club.

 

How any Leicester fan can hate Nige is beyond me! We could easily be playing the likes of Fleetwood right now, if Nige hadn't arrived when he did. The club was in a total mess and changing managers every month. That's if you can call the likes of Latrine and Hollowhead managers.

 

Nige has been linked to most vacancies but he wanted more money, so it's possible he is still on the books or he was until the new year. He hasn't said a word until now so it does seem to be the case. Notts County need a manager, it's a bit low for him, but I would love him to go there and turn them into a better club than Forest! lol I wish him well where ever he goes unless its Forest of course.

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Nige did an absolutely terrific job in putting the foundations in place for us to grow as a Premier League club.

 

Cant be argued, cant be disputed. A top manager in Leicesters history (coming from a supposed anti-Pearson man, or so im made out to be).

 

BUT

 

Surely, Ranieri has made lots of positive changes, and it is most certainly his club now. Whatever is done from now on, it is HIS credit, or his blame.

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The foundations was laid by Pearson, and Shakespeare, shakespeare who is still serving the club, and still doing a good job.

I didn't think Shakespeare gets enough recognition under Pearson, or now under Claudio.

No matter how good or bad Pearson did, he's gone, and it's now a new era, and a decision by the owners that has proven to be a good one, now let's move on.

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See that the scum have gone and done an article with the headline "Ranieri was lucky to inherit my team - Pearson".

 

And yet people question his attitude towards the media lol

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I think we should all recognise what NP did for the club. He had a massive and positive impact on the fundamentals of the setup here and upon the players.

However I think it's also fair to see that he could also be a massive, smug bellend. His negative relationship with the press didn't help us at all.

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See that the scum have gone and done an article with the headline "Ranieri was lucky to inherit my team - Pearson".

 

And yet people question his attitude towards the media lol

 

I had a look after you said this and compared it to the BBC's article. It's a complete joke. The Sun are a joke.

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I find it hard to articulate my feelings about Pearson in here without being labelled "anti-Pearson" or some such nonsense. For me he's up there with Brian Little as one of our best ever managers. One of the few who has taken us up and kept us there.

But the man is not a god; he had some serious limitations, particularly tactically where Ranieri has shon a light on the gaping chasm between their respective abilities.

The fact that Pearson seemingly won't take a new job unless he can take his old staff with him hints at how much of his success with us can be credited to them.

But he is a solid manager and I think given time he could have joined the likes of Pulis, Allardyce and Pardew as respectable if unspectacular premier league managers.

Maybe the biggest compliment I could give him is that when we do eventually fall back down towards the championship (which will happen, though I hope it won't be for some years yet), I'd happily take him back and would feel confident that the club is in good hands.

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See that the scum have gone and done an article with the headline "Ranieri was lucky to inherit my team - Pearson".

 

And yet people question his attitude towards the media lol

 

 

NP is very naive in his dealings with the press ..... show some class like CR does, do you ever see him being mis-quoted or for a journo to be a bit naughty quoting him in the wrong context??? Fall out with people every week and it's no surprise that they relish the opportunity for a bit of devilment.

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NP is very naive in his dealings with the press ..... show some class like CR does, do you ever see him being mis-quoted or for a journo to be a bit naughty quoting him in the wrong context??? Fall out with people every week and it's no surprise that they relish the opportunity for a bit of devilment.

Agree with that. Part of the job is dealing with the media, Pearson never respected them and now has to deal with those kind of consequences. He didn't need to change himself or pander to them to get onside with the media, just show a little bit of respect for other people like we're all taught to do as kids.

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NP is A good championship manager, however CR has shown how technically inept NP was at EPL level

Give over! He finished 14th in his only season in the Prem.

Tony Pulis gets called a genius by some sections of the press for constantly finishing 14th with far more expensively assembled and experienced squads.

"A good Championship manager." Never heard such a shitty backhanded compliment in my life. He built stastically one of the top 5 greatest ever teams in the history of the English second tier and then kept them in the Prem.

He's clearly more than just a "good Championship manager."

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I had a look after you said this and compared it to the BBC's article. It's a complete joke. The Sun are a joke.

 

Someone linked me on Facebook thankfully so I didn't actually read their article, but their headline was embarrassing and the comments even more so. Amazing how gullible the public are.

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I find it hard to articulate my feelings about Pearson in here without being labelled "anti-Pearson" or some such nonsense. For me he's up there with Brian Little as one of our best ever managers. One of the few who has taken us up and kept us there.

But the man is not a god; he had some serious limitations, particularly tactically where Ranieri has shon a light on the gaping chasm between their respective abilities.

The fact that Pearson seemingly won't take a new job unless he can take his old staff with him hints at how much of his success with us can be credited to them.

But he is a solid manager and I think given time he could have joined the likes of Pulis, Allardyce and Pardew as respectable if unspectacular premier league managers.

Maybe the biggest compliment I could give him is that when we do eventually fall back down towards the championship (which will happen, though I hope it won't be for some years yet), I'd happily take him back and would feel confident that the club is in good hands.

 

You're labelled 'anti-Pearson' because you never mention him without either directly or indirectly criticising him. 

 

You say he's 'up there with Brian Little' and immediately after you say he got us up and 'kept us there'. Little didn't. Pearson did it twice. I think you might have needed a paragraph break between the two points.

 

You also talk about 'serious limitations'. Thank god he didn't show too many of them while he was with us, taking us up 31 league placings in five-and-a-half years, over two separate spells. 19 of which was without King Power's money. He had the tactical ability required to win a higher percentage of games than any other manager of ours in the second and third tier, and more than most in the first. But clearly there was some abstract problem in the midst of it all which, while it didn't actually affect our progress or our results, made him tactically inept in your eyes.

 

As for 'he won't take a job unless he can take his old staff with him' - neither he nor they have said this, just like nobody in the summer clarified why Pearson was fired (only you and a handful of enlightened others seemed to know why that was). Few sacked managers return instantly to the game, many have a year out. It's worth adding that, while you seem keen to credit them with much of his success in your third paragraph, he actually appointed these staff members. Just like he signed nearly all of the players on which our current success is based. I assume you also credit Walsh and Shakespeare with most of Ranieri's success, too.

 

When you talk about the 'gaping chasm' between his ability and Ranieri's, you're comparing over half a decade's worth of sustained progress beginning at a low level with six months of success starting at a higher level. Could Pearson have matched what Ranieri did? I don't know. The run that continued under Ranieri began under Pearson and with mostly the same players, players he signed, so maybe. Could Ranieri have matched what Pearson did? Equally, we don't know.

 

I'm delighted with Ranieri, but the comparison which you're so desperate to make between Pearson and him can't be looked at simply in terms of 'who got the team higher up the league table?' Was Bassett the great Wimbledon manager, or Gould? Was Hodge the great Leicester manager, or Orr? It goes without saying that all of them played their own, very different roles.

 

Why it is that you're so keen to belittle Pearson's achievement in the light of Ranieri's (which, of course, owes a great deal to Pearson's achievement) is still beyond me. My guess is that you once, in a frenzy of wishing to support the club in whatever decision they happened to make, came up with a whole load of half-assed reasons for their decision and have devoted much of your life since then to reinforcing your stance.

 

And those supporting the change in manager really shouldn't come across as partisan, divisive and downright incorrect as you consistently manage to. As it stands, results alone justify the change in manager. Hopefully that won't change. But none of it should undermine Pearson's role in our past, nor his part in our current success (e.g. assembling the squad, taking them up two leagues, keeping them up, beginning the run of great form, appointing those coaches whom you credit with much of our success).

 

For my part, I want to see Leicester doing well. Right now I love Ranieri for doing that, and Pearson for the part he played in it. Shouldn't we leave it at that?

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See that the scum have gone and done an article with the headline "Ranieri was lucky to inherit my team - Pearson".

 

And yet people question his attitude towards the media lol

 

But its largely of his own doing Dan unfortunately, we cant put it any other way.

 

He handled the media poorly, and he gave them the ammunition to misquote him and twist things he says.

 

Its just sadly a fact.

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But its largely of his own doing Dan unfortunately, we cant put it any other way.

 

He handled the media poorly, and he gave them the ammunition to misquote him and twist things he says.

 

Its just sadly a fact.

 

I think they're quite happy to twist things people say regardless of how nice you are to them. I'm by no means party-political, but I think any given front bench politician, and especially Jeremy Corbyn, are proof of that. Still, I suspect Pearson was a god-send to the media, regardless of how rude and unpleasant he could (and did, frequently) manage to be. Managers who strangle opposition players, call journalists p**cks, tell their own fans to f*** off an die, then accuse people of being ostriches before suggesting that they, owing to their greater flexibility, could out-ostrich them, must surely sell newspapers.

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Forgetting the fantastic job Pearson did in getting us out of First division and  into the play offs which should give any championship sides enough reason to employ him he returned to a squad and team in chaos. A squad full of has beens and never will be on silly money, he cleared out the overpaid deadwood worth next to nothing and brought in younger hungrier players paid less and worth considerably more than their cost.

 

Got good value for money and unearthed gems so anyone thinking there are chairmen and boards looking at the business side of football and the money involved and not looking at him including premiership sides need a reality check, look how well Garde is doing at Villa or the wally with the brolly and his £50 million spent at Newcastle.

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Why does he not (if we suspect the reason is he cant take our staff to another job) just work with different staff if he wants to get back into management?

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Why does he not (if we suspect the reason is he cant take our staff to another job) just work with different staff if he wants to get back into management?

Cos hes back room staff for lcfc :P watching from above and telling CR what he see lol

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