Collymore Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Being very sad I've done a little research on our odds of 5000/1 and have more questions than I have answers, still, I'll share my findings So are we were actually 5000 /1 to win the league? probably no where near..... why? 5000/1 in scientific terms is the same chance of hitting a hole in one in golf - anyone done it? Possibly some people on here will have... well done! but did you predict you would on that shot and say "Want to see a hole in one?" 10,000 - 20,000 to one is being murdered or ran over by a bus which is roughly the same odds as doubling Leicester winning the league and Murray winning Wimbledon - Scary? The bookies once offered odds of 5000/1 on a scientific odds of a 2 million event that actually happened! Of course nobody bet on it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2251561/Champions-League-draw-5000-1-repeat-dress-rehearsal.html I actually think our odds are probably no where near 5000/1 - What are your guesses off the actual odds and why?
HankMarvin Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 What are the biggest sporting odds ever to come in? Horse race 500-1 maybe?
Fox92 Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 What are the biggest sporting odds ever to come in? Horse race 500-1 maybe? Dettori won all the races at Ascot in the 90s at 25000/1. I don't know if anybody won though - I just read it in an article about a week ago.
separator Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 What are the biggest sporting odds ever to come in? Horse race 500-1 maybe? Can't remember any horse being 500/1... normally you won't get much over 1 or 200/1 even for a complete no hope donkey in a race
separator Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Dettori won all the races at Ascot in the 90s at 25000/1. That was a multiple bet though
Collymore Posted 12 February 2016 Author Posted 12 February 2016 Can't remember any horse being 500/1... normally you won't get much over 1 or 200/1 even for a complete no hope donkey in a race 250/1 record IIRC
HankMarvin Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 30p bet nets soccer fan £500,000 Bookmakers stung by a football fan who scooped a £500,000 windfall on a remarkable 30p accumulator bet were today keeping tight-lipped about the identity of the punter. The unnamed Manchester United fan from Lichfield, Staffs, won the massive cash prize after the side which knocked his club out of this year's competition, Bayern Munich, carried off the Champions League title last night. It came after the successful supporter, thought to be a self-employed businessman in his 50s, placed a single 30p stake on a 15-event accumulator last August. The same man, whose winning odds of 1,666,666-to-one are believed to be a world record, scooped £157,000 from a £2.50 accumulator in 1999 when Manchester United won the Champions League final. But there was no sign of him at the William Hill shop in Upper St John Street, Lichfield today. Manageress Janet Dykes said he regularly placed "ante-post" bets but was not a regular customer and would be very discreet about his audacious win. "He's a nice, normal family man," said Mrs Dykes, who paid out on his last successful win two years ago. "He had to produce that winner last night. When I do speak to him, I shall give him a piece of my mind to have to go through all that again!" Mrs Dykes, 44, from Atherstone, Warwickshire, also revealed that after picking up his £157,000 winnings, he told staff: "I'm going to do you again!" "I was happy for him last night, but at the same time, I thought 'Oh no, not again'. It's like winning the Lottery twice. It's the biggest win I've ever dealt with," she added. The man correctly predicted this season's champions of the top five English leagues and the three lower Scottish divisions. He also backed Leicester to win the rugby union Premiership, Surrey to win last season's county cricket championship, Gloucester to win rugby's NatWest Trophy and Arsenal, Hibernian and Falkirk to win their matches on the weekend of August 21/22 last year. That left the Red Devils fan praying for Bayern to win tonight's Champions League Final, in which they beat Valencia 5-4 in a heart-stopping penalty shootout. Regular punter Lee Phillips, 37, said he was pleased for the man and was hoping his luck would rub off on him. The landscaper said: "It must have been horrible for him last night. I had an idea of the bet beforehand but I didn't think he was going to pull it off. "I try different bets and a lot of other people will now be tempted to do the same thing. It has been proved it can be done. I might try a 60p stake and get a bit more."
Wymsey Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Odds are like shares. The more input positivity on the pitch (like productivity in business), the more it'll boost club reputation/current standing.
Fox92 Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 The best I've seen in person was me mate about three years ago now, he won just over £8000 from a £1 acca. Couldn't believe it (even more so that we were at Uni at the time - he collected it after lecture one day). It was literally about 40+ games and they all came in.
FireFox Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Just curious, what we're Norwich's (or whoever had the lowest) odds at the start of the season? (Weren't Villa's 4500-1 a bit ago.)
promised land Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Dettori won all the races at Ascot in the 90s at 25000/1. I don't know if anybody won though - I just read it in an article about a week ago. Not sure what the actual odds were on that day but I do remember it and at the time one or two said a few might've done it as some horse punters will just back one jockey regardless of the horse, going, venue etc. But you'd have needed him to be on at least one fairly long odds horse to get a good return, if he ran on all the favourites the odds would've been quite short.
Westerby Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 I know Foinavon was 500/1 Ante-Post a few days before winning the Grand National. I cursed a bit having had a shilling each way at 100/1 SP.
GaelicFox Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 If we win the league If Guinness book of records have confirmed that we will be the biggest priced sporting outcome ever in the history of global betting 5000-1 has never ever been achieved on a single outcome of a single sport anywhere on the planet !
GaelicFox Posted 12 February 2016 Posted 12 February 2016 Not sure what the actual odds were on that day but I do remember it and at the time one or two said a few might've done it as some horse punters will just back one jockey regardless of the horse, going, venue etc. But you'd have needed him to be on at least one fairly long odds horse to get a good return, if he ran on all the favourites the odds would've been quite short. That's a multiple bet And there has been a million to one multiple bet landed Before ! We are a single bet on a single outcome and the 5000-1 has never been achieved Frankies last horse on the Saturday was called Fujiyama Crest It paid for my new car ! I will never forget that moment as long as I live Hopefully we will win the premier league and that feeling will be eclipsed
Hollism Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 If we win the league If Guinness book of records have confirmed that we will be the biggest priced sporting outcome ever in the history of global betting 5000-1 has never ever been achieved on a single outcome of a single sport anywhere on the planet ! You got a source on that mate?
yorkie1999 Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 Its all about the bookies tempting punters to put money on outsiders, the bigger the odds the more chance of tempting money out of people. When enough cash has been laid on, the odds come down and punters start thinking somethings going on so they stick their money on and so it carries on till theres not much money going on. Then the bookies put the odds up a bit to try and sqeeze a bit more money out of people. Meanwhile they re are covering their loss by laying money on other teams with their own money, which means they cant lose. If they pay out half a million on leicester winning the title, you can bet your life they will make 2 million on chelsea, the favourites at the start of the season, not winning the title. Theres a few winners, but theres an awfull lot of losers, which means money in the bookies back pocket. Its strange how the bookies have been anouncing how much money and how many bets have been laid on leicester to win the league,which are feel good stories, The real information to find out is how many bets have been laid on other teams to win the prem, then you can see the percentages the bookies are working with.
ScouseFox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 leicester winning would be a nightmare for bookmakers. this type of market has such ridiculous prices on outsiders and not enough money on short priced favourites to go against the usual theories.
yorkie1999 Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 leicester winning would be a nightmare for bookmakers. this type of market has such ridiculous prices on outsiders and not enough money on short priced favourites to go against the usual theories. Sorry i dont agree, theyll make far more money from the favorites not winning it simply because of thw amount of people betting on them.
ScouseFox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 Sorry i dont agree, theyll make far more money from the favorites not winning it simply because of thw amount of people betting on them. you don't have to agree, just thought i'd let you know you're wrong. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/outfoxed-bookies-face-10m-loss-7334126 bare in mind it's not just like a horse race where we were 5000/1 at the off and then the book closed. we were being matched at stupidly big prices months into the season. we were still 1000/1 at the start of november, after we'd been bouncing around the top of the league for 3 months. you could still back us @ 33/1 a few weeks ago when we were top of the league well past half way into the season. and of course we've now been favourites for a week, which by your theory means people will be piling into us, just further increasing losses should we win it.
Mad Dog Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 Here's a nice fact for you. LCFC 5000-1 at the start of the season. Here are some other bets offered at those odds by William Hill: • Elvis is found alive. • Yeti or Loch Ness Monster is proven to exist. • Christmas is the warmest day of the year in England. • Kanye West and Kim Kardashian name their next child Sinner. • Kim Kardashian becomes the U.S. president in 2020. • Barack Obama plays cricket for England after he leaves Oval Office.
Mad Dog Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 And Greece winning the Euros - price was 150-1. Lots of people comparing that to us potentially winning; not even close.
GaelicFox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 You got a source on that mate? Paddy Power he was on talk sport discussing it Think they did an advert on it as well
GaelicFox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 you don't have to agree, just thought i'd let you know you're wrong. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/outfoxed-bookies-face-10m-loss-7334126 bare in mind it's not just like a horse race where we were 5000/1 at the off and then the book closed. we were being matched at stupidly big prices months into the season. we were still 1000/1 at the start of november, after we'd been bouncing around the top of the league for 3 months. you could still back us @ 33/1 a few weeks ago when we were top of the league well past half way into the season. and of course we've now been favourites for a week, which by your theory means people will be piling into us, just further increasing losses should we win it. We will cost the industry 10m at least
North East Fox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 you don't have to agree, just thought i'd let you know you're wrong. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/outfoxed-bookies-face-10m-loss-7334126 bare in mind it's not just like a horse race where we were 5000/1 at the off and then the book closed. we were being matched at stupidly big prices months into the season. we were still 1000/1 at the start of november, after we'd been bouncing around the top of the league for 3 months. you could still back us @ 33/1 a few weeks ago when we were top of the league well past half way into the season. and of course we've now been favourites for a week, which by your theory means people will be piling into us, just further increasing losses should we win it.
North East Fox Posted 13 February 2016 Posted 13 February 2016 you don't have to agree, just thought i'd let you know you're wrong. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/outfoxed-bookies-face-10m-loss-7334126 bare in mind it's not just like a horse race where we were 5000/1 at the off and then the book closed. we were being matched at stupidly big prices months into the season. we were still 1000/1 at the start of november, after we'd been bouncing around the top of the league for 3 months. you could still back us @ 33/1 a few weeks ago when we were top of the league well past half way into the season. and of course we've now been favourites for a week, which by your theory means people will be piling into us, just further increasing losses should we win it. I can guarantee yorkie is right. It's a PR stunt. The bookies will never lose on markets like that.
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