Grewks Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Like I said, there has been no game this season where all 3 have turned up. I just feel they will against you. Truth be told I would rather they turned up against the mackems. With all due respect....EVEN IF the likes of Shelvey turn up, as long as we do, we win. Sigurdsson and ki are far better than the rest of your midfield, and we won 3-0 away against them earlier in the season.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 It won't take long though for the Newcastle fans to vent their anger again should they lose on Monday and then lose the Sunderland game the week after, even if it isn't aimed directly at Rafa. That alone, regardless of who manages you, makes Newcastles job so much harder. And also, lets be realistic, if Newcastle do drop, Rafa is out the door on his own terms before the summer starts. Yes Rafa would leave if we go down which is why we would be begging him to stay. We don't expect to win many games this season and know it is going to take Rafa a while to get them playing his way. We won't turn on him because we know it isn't his fault. His CV shows that given the right funding and the right set up then he will bring success. The fans all understand that if he doesn't bring success to the toon then he is not the one at fault.
Guest ttfn Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Like I said, there has been no game this season where all 3 have turned up. I just feel they will against you. Truth be told I would rather they turned up against the mackems. They might well "all turn up" but even if they do its not like they're playing Norwich's midfield. They're playing the best central midfield partnership in the country. If they all turn up they will give Kante and Drinkwater a game but with the state of your defence whether your midfield turns up will determine only if the game is competitive rather than a straightforward home win. You're talking as if if your guys decide they want to play you'll win. You're away to top of the league - turning up is the minimum requirement.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Allardyce? Ashley didn't hire Allerdyce, Shephard did. Ashley then bought the club and it was only a matter of time until hew wanted to bring his own man in.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 If you had read anything I have ever written on here you would see that I don't consider you 'little old leicester'. I said before we played last time that you had a cracking team. When Newcastle have bothered turning up we have been immense. Take the sunderland game, they couldn't get the ball off us first half then we got a player sent off and they routed us. Against man city and Arsenal it was the same kind of thing, first half they couldn't live with us. The odd game they have done it for 90 minutes like when we put Norwich to the sword. Like I said they have hardly done it all season and that is why we are where we are. As for our lack of goals for some reason Mcclaren would hardly play Doumbia and Cisse got injured. When Cisse plays as a centre forward his goal average is one every 2 games. Doumbia has looked very good the odd minute Mcclaren has given him. He had two off the post in his last game. Usually that type would go in. There are two Newcastle Uniteds. You have the one where they don't try and they stroll about like they have all day, bottling 50-50s etc, that is the one that has played almost all season. But there is also another Newcastle United. The Newcastle united that do turn up. They are actually a very very good team. You could ask any toon fan the same thing and they would all tell you that if Gini, Sissoko and Shelvey turn up there isn't a midfield in the country that could live with them. The problem is all 3 are usually hiding and at no time this season have all 3 turned it on in the same game. Then you look at the likes of Steven Taylor. He is usually a liability. But every time a new manager comes in he always plays extremely well in that first game. This has upset written all over it and it will be an upset because we are where we deserve to be just as you are. BTW, we don't expect to win the next 10 games, not even close to that. We will be extremely lucky if we in 4. More than likely it will be 3. I just think that if you had played us at any other time you would have easily took all 3 points and I mean easily. But you are playing us at the worst possible time because one thing is for sure and that is that Newcastle will turn up on monday. "Anything you've ever written on here" - you mean the one post you made before this thread? Just because you were smart enough to notice how good we are after we beat you 3-0 it doesn't make you correct now. We would. We have a bad rap for slating managers but under Ashley we have only ever had managers who had been recently sacked from lower divisions or guys that had been out of a job for decades. That's incredible revisionism right there, pretty sure that in 2012 nobody at Newcastle was complaining about Pardew's previous job when he signed that 8 year contract after winning manager of the year. A bad run of games later and we all know how the toon reacted so don't pretend you'd be begging Rafa to stay after 10 straight defeats and the relegation that would entail.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 That is why we have been upset all season. Turning up is a minimum requirement and yet in most of the games we have played they just haven't. The bournemouth game wasn't a one off, it has been like that for most of the season. They might well "all turn up" but even if they do its not like they're playing Norwich's midfield. They're playing the best central midfield partnership in the country. If they all turn up they will give Kante and Drinkwater a game but with the state of your defence whether your midfield turns up will determine only if the game is competitive rather than a straightforward home win.You're talking as if if your guys decide they want to play you'll win. You're away to top of the league - turning up is the minimum requirement.
Grewks Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Ashley didn't hire Allerdyce, Shephard did. Ashley then bought the club and it was only a matter of time until hew wanted to bring his own man in. but you said the reason the fans turned on your managers was because they were 'lower league or out of the game for decades'. No manager has done a consistently good job at establishing PL sides in history than Big Sam.....yet your amazing fans still wanted him out.
Guest ttfn Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 That is why we have been upset all season. Turning up is a minimum requirement and yet in most of the games we have played they just haven't. The bournemouth game wasn't a one off, it has been like that for most of the season. At what point though do you start thinking that maybe the good games are the aberration and the lethargic performances are the norm?
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 "Anything you've ever written on here" - you mean the one post you made before this thread? Just because you were smart enough to notice how good we are after we beat you 3-0 it doesn't make you correct now. That's incredible revisionism right there, pretty sure that in 2012 nobody at Newcastle was complaining about Pardew's previous job when he signed that 8 year contract after winning manager of the year. A bad run of games later and we all know how the toon reacted so don't pretend you'd be begging Rafa to stay after 10 straight defeats and the relegation that would entail. The season when Pardew finished bfifth he used Hughtons tactics and formation 433. He then changed the whole set up and we struggled ever since. He has done the same at all clubs he has managed. A phenomenal first 12 months and then he changes everything and they drop like a stone.
Grewks Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 That is why we have been upset all season. Turning up is a minimum requirement and yet in most of the games we have played they just haven't. The bournemouth game wasn't a one off, it has been like that for most of the season. Maybe you just are not very good? 'Not turning up' is an excuse for a lack of quality....Have your players running stats been half that of your opponents or something?
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 but you said the reason the fans turned on your managers was because they were 'lower league or out of the game for decades'. No manager has done a consistently good job at establishing PL sides in history than Big Sam.....yet your amazing fans still wanted him out. Sam was a former sunderland player who played almost as dire football as Pardew. People go on about how Benitez teams are boring but compared to them 2 his footy will be a joy to watch.
Grewks Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Maybe newcastle fans are just thick? They slate the appointment of John Carver.....But Rafa Benitez who has just as little experience fighting relegation is a 'great appointment'.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Maybe you just are not very good? 'Not turning up' is an excuse for a lack of quality....Have your players running stats been half that of your opponents or something? It isn't a lack of quality. You just have to look at Sissoko to see that. When he bothers himself he is a powerhouse. Gini was the Dutch player of the season and title winning captain and Shelvey, as he showed in his debut has a brilliant passing range. Mitro is good at leading the line, Perez is a bag of tricks and Aarons can tear defenders up for fun. The quality is there. We have seen it. The problem with that lot is they usually just don't bother.
Gerard Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 But there is also another Newcastle United. The Newcastle united that do turn up. They are actually a very very good team. You could ask any toon fan the same thing and they would all tell you that if Gini, Sissoko and Shelvey turn up there isn't a midfield in the country that could live with them. I hope both teams play to their very best ability and we'll see how "very very good" your team is. I suspect Drinkwater, Kante & Mahrez could live with "Gini, Sissoko and Shelvey" all day long. Mickey Quinn is a clueless dickhead, I wouldn't believe everything you read. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-leicester-city-polar-11010284
Carl the Llama Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Imagine coming onto a forum of team who last year still had a large amount of fans vocally backing their manager despite having spent most of the season rooted to the foot of the table and expecting sympathy for throwing your toys out when your team merely approach the relegation zone. Then imagine telling them that Shelvey, Sissoko and Wijnaldum are a better midfield than Drinkwater, Kanté and King. This has been a funny day you should start a youtube channel like that overweight shouty fella.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Maybe newcastle fans are just thick? They slate the appointment of John Carver.....But Rafa Benitez who has just as little experience fighting relegation is a 'great appointment'. John Carver had very little management experience. He took over a good Toronto team and turned them into a bad one and then was sacked. That was his experience. Benitez has experience at winning games. You need to win games to get out of a relegation scrap. Managers who season after season are involved in relegation scraps HAVE LESS EXPERIENCE at winning games. One of the main reasons you are doing well is because you have a manager who is used to winning games.
The Guvnor Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Newcastle fans have had to put up with dross for some time so I can sort of understand the hype with appointment of Rafa however saying they are a very very good team when they can be arsed is quite frankly delusional.
Grewks Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 John Carver had very little management experience. He took over a good Toronto team and turned them into a bad one and then was sacked. That was his experience. Benitez has experience at winning games. You need to win games to get out of a relegation scrap. Managers who season after season are involved in relegation scraps HAVE LESS EXPERIENCE at winning games. One of the main reasons you are doing well is because you have a manager who is used to winning games. Not when he arrived he wasn't.... We have a group of players who are used to winning....that is the difference. I wouldn't take a single one of your XI in ours, that's just a fact.
Monk Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Any game in this league is a potential banana skin but we should be beating this lot - with or without Benitez
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Micky I hope both teams play to their very best ability and we'll see how "very very good" your team is. I suspect Drinkwater, Kante & Mahrez could live with "Gini, Sissoko and Shelvey" all day long. Mickey Quinn is a clueless dickhead, I wouldn't believe everything you read. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-leicester-city-polar-11010284 Sumo is clueless and we rarely believe what he says. In fact if you look on my history on there you will see that I rarely agree with him. You lot are now under the impression that you turn up and games over. That is a very dangerous way to look at things. If we perform like we have all season then you won't just beat us you will hammer us. I just don't think we are going to play that way on monday.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Any game in this league is a potential banana skin but we should be beating this lot - with or without Benitez Tbf this is very true. The horror if Newcastle actually win and funloving thinks it proves his waffle right.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Newcastle fans have had to put up with dross for some time so I can sort of understand the hype with appointment of Rafa however saying they are a very very good team when they can be arsed is quite frankly delusional. I will remind you of that on monday night on the way back home. Anyhow, I've cluttered your boards long enough so good luck with the title after the toon game.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Micky Sumo is clueless and we rarely believe what he says. In fact if you look on my history on there you will see that I rarely agree with him. You lot are now under the impression that you turn up and games over. That is a very dangerous way to look at things. If we perform like we have all season then you won't just beat us you will hammer us. I just don't think we are going to play that way on monday. No we just can't believe you "can see" Newcastle winning this one. We do have confidence in our lads' abilities because they've consistently shown them but don't misunderstand us thinking you're in gagaland for us thinking we have a right to win - we leave that sort of rubbish to Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd and, yes, Newcastle fans.
funlovingexpress Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Tbf this is very true. The horror if Newcastle actually win and funloving thinks it proves his waffle right. Well I notice you all were saying how bad our defence was and yet when we finished fifth we had the same centre halves. they just haven't turned up since.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 March 2016 Posted 12 March 2016 Just to clarify I expect you to support your club and I'm pleased to see your optimism despite everything funloving.
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