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The Run in.. NEWCASTLE.. At Home.. Next..

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That is why we have been upset all season.  Turning up is a minimum requirement and yet in most of the games we have played they just haven't.  The bournemouth game wasn't a one off, it has been like that for most of the season.

Bit late to the party on this thread, so sorry for bringing this up 24 hours later.

Doesn't the fact that your team is decent but lazy worry you? It would me. You can put a team of poor players out and if they're disciplined, and work hard they'll give most teams a hard time. But if your team as whole has a bad attitude and basically can't be arsed, then what the manager to do. He can't change the formation, he can't tweeks things to make it better, he's stuck with a bunch of lazy ****ers, no tactics can change that.

As a football fan I can accept a player being shit, I can accept he makes mistakes, but I can't accept them not trying. There's never any excuse for that. You say you're teams decent, so surely the fact you're second bottom because the players don't give a **** is a massive concern, not a beacon of hope.

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Almost eveyone in this thread is predicting a simple, routine win for us.

I'm confident of a good performance and win, given our position. It's just that Newcastle are an unknown quantity at the moment. They've actually got a decent team, and we won't know if it's been McClaren dragging them down, or if they actually are just sh*te this year.

We don't know if they'll get a bounce from Benetiz or not. Benetiz has managed his fair share of canny 'doing a job on teams' in the past. Why not tomorrow night?

Seems to me half and half predicting a difficult game and a comfortable win but if that's people's opinions that's people's opinions. It doesn't mean the team or fans are complacent, just that the way we are playing and picking up results a 3-0 win against a side that have lost 11 out of 14 away games could be on the cards.

Benitez will have had a couple of days with this side, he won't know much at all about his players and they wouldn't have had time to get used to the inevitable new system.

How can you not see why people are predicting a comfortable win? The bookies have it down as a routine home win, as that's what everything points towards.

That doesn't mean it'll happen, but you can see why people think it will.

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Anyone would think The Fat Controller is Jesus H Christ!!..

Benitz isn't playing!.. Although he'd probably do a better job than the likes of Collucini..

..Newcastle are the second worse team in the PL and there's a reason for that..

We'll smash them tomorrow!

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Allardyce?

That epically shite Derby team took 4 points off him, to be fair.

 

As to whether that midfield is any good, if they show up it's not bottom 3 material, sure, it's a reasonable bunch of midtable to lower top half players. It's super lopsided though. It's going to be a lot more difficult than if McClaren was still there, but it's a bit much to expect Benitez to wipe clean a decade of rot in three days.

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I would have expected us to roll over Villa and Bournemouth but we didn't, Newcastle will be up for this, the media will be bashing themselves silly over Benitez and players will be looking to impress. That said however we should win if we play to our best.

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I think we'll have to play poorly to not win. You've got to fancy us against their defence, we defend well we win the game.

Important we win because I have a bad feeling about palace on Saturday.

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A win tomorrow becomes just that little bit more important now

 

 

Agreed. That little bit more pressure on us now. 

 

That said, if we win it then it'll be that little more of a killer for those below us.

 

Really think tomorrow is a massive game for us!!!

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So much on Benitez heroics and his inherited mess of a team

We will counter with Vardy, Mahrez, Kante, Drinky, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs, Simpson, Albighton, Schlupp, Shinji, Kasper, Ulloa, and the Master Claudio.

Seems an easy pick to me who would play harder for their manager.

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statistically, over t he last few  games point to a 3-0 win

 

it is often said statistics don't lie

Statistics mean never having to say you're certain...

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The stats on mid-season managerial changes are interesting (these have just been sent to me - I have no idea where they come from but I'll share them with you anyway). Over the past five seasons there have been 31 mid-season exits, and 19% of the sides have won their next game, with 26% drawing. As for mid-season appointments, there have been 28 of them and 18% have won their first game (with at least two days in charge beforehand), with 32% drawing.

 

So the new manager 'bounce' is, to an extent, a myth. Obviously the quality of opposition, whether it's home or away, the position of the team, the calibre of the manager all have a bearing, but if you look at the ten mid-season 'name' appointments since 2011 (managers who were, at the time, well-known in the UK to the extent that Benitez is now) - O'Neill, Hughes, Benitez, Redknapp, Pulis, Pardew, Advoccat, Allardyce, Klopp, Hiddink - then only 10% of them have won, and 40% drawn their first games. And Newcastle, over the past eight years, have changed manager four times and only won the subsequent game once.

 

And while we're at it, apparently Benitez has only ever taken over one club mid-season, Chelsea, and he drew the game.

 

It doesn't make it any less nerve-racking, especially after Villa's routine capitulation today, but it's nice to know that the post-manager/new-manager bounce really isn't a bounce, even when the incoming manager is a decent one.

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RAFA cancelled day off and had the Newcastle squad in an hour after being appointed..with them set to train Saturday and Sunday too  :dry:

 

Shame we aren't playing tomorrow. Hopefully will make little difference and we still smash em!!

 

Hopefully they will be all tired out with all that running round and the extra training.

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They have ability. They have Rafa. They do not have confidence. Early goal is important. Get one and we win. Longer it goes more worrying it'll get.

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They actually have the capacity to beat us considering their circumstances - each and every player will be fighting for their place. I believe they will lose, possibly after going one up but I still think we'll be too strong for them - 2-0 or 2-1 leicester.

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They have ability. They have Rafa. They do not have confidence. Early goal is important. Get one and we win. Longer it goes more worrying it'll get.

Would be very handy tomorrow. Need to get out the blocks fast and to dent any confidence that Benitez has managed to get into them.

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They have ability. They have Rafa. They do not have confidence. Early goal is important. Get one and we win. Longer it goes more worrying it'll get.

They don't have desire either. If Rafa has somehow got them wanting to try in the last three days we might have problems. Can't see it myself personally.

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Would be very handy tomorrow. Need to get out the blocks fast and to dent any confidence that Benitez has managed to get into them.

 

Yes, hurt them early on and destroy their new found but fragile confidence.

 

Don't let them grow into the game.

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I doubt Benitez will make any difference by tomorrow. His only option is to frustrate and park the bus. It is just to early for him to have any effect. If we tie or lose we would have done this with McLaren. Rafa will work on the defensive side of the game. I still believe it should be a win. Perhaps a low scoring game. I just don't see Rafa as being a factor yet.

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I doubt Benitez will make any difference by tomorrow. His only option is to frustrate and park the bus. It is just to early for him to have any effect. If we tie or lose we would have done this with McLaren. Rafa will work on the defensive side of the game. I still believe it should be a win. Perhaps a low scoring game. I just don't see Rafa as being a factor yet.

It's not about Rafa having time to make an influence, of course tactics and training doesn't give him much time...

However, the influence of a 'new manager' is mainly down to the players playing out of their skins to impress the new boss. So the appointment will have a huge difference.

Having said that, I'm sure the players are fully aware of this and will do their job.

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