What I do not understand about Spurs fans...

[Kendal Fox]

What I do not understand is the lack of honesty and integrity - not just from the Spurs fans, but also the supposedly impartial journalists now all putting their 2 pence worth in, looking to justify Vardy being the scapegoat, should we now go on and fall at the final hurdle. They're not even making any bones about the fact that they are just itching for us to get our "comeuppance" now.

As for the Spurs fans, typically they are now parroting the same mantra as the shameless journos - "Vardy deserved the red card and it's now Leicester's "Gerrard slip"..."  - So revealing that the cognitive dissonance bothers them it's untrue. Because they know, should Spurs win it, there will be something massively hollow about the whole thing. Then again, I'm probably over- estimating them as human beings.

[spurs1980]

Spurs have a £30m player in Lamela. Our first eleven cost £23m. Our wage bill is 17th in the league. Theirs is about 6th.

Maybe we should do a Sean Dyche and constantly bang on about money and resources.

 

Lazy. Lamela was 30m euros. Was around £26m, sorry to be pedantic but it's a bug bear of mine! 

[dylanlegend]

So more long balls and about half the short touches. Says it all.

Says nothing. The table doesn't lie, people don't say remember that amazing Arsenal team that finished runners up to Man Utd but they had more short passes... Blah blah blah, whoever wins the league will be the ones who deserve it. Just like LCFC deserve to be top currently as we have gained 5 more points than Spurs over the same number of matches.

For all you Spurs fans on here... I read an intersting stat the other day... Can't remember the exact figures but something like...

In tha last 38 games LCFC have amassed 91 points, 18 points more than any other team (Arsenal & Spurs both 73)

[spurs1980]

What I do not understand is the lack of honesty and integrity - not just from the Spurs fans, but also the supposedly impartial journalists now all putting their 2 pence worth in, looking to justify Vardy being the scapegoat, should we now go on and fall at the final hurdle. They're not even making any bones about the fact that they are just itching for us to get our "comeuppance" now.

As for the Spurs fans, typically they are now parroting the same mantra as the shameless journos - "Vardy deserved the red card and it's now Leicester's "Gerrard slip"..."  - So revealing that the cognitive dissonance bothers them it's untrue. Because they know, should Spurs win it, there will be something massively hollow about the whole thing. Then again, I'm probably over- estimating them as human beings.

 

I think we're probably all too involved right now that we probably read far too much into things. Journo's want to sell papers and Sky want a last day of the season title race. When Leicester are running away with it they roll with the punches and talk about the fairytale. Then Spurs fans complain. We all complain regardless of what side of the fence we sit on. Fabregas was on MNF blatantly saying he wants Leicester to win. I think most neutrals probably do because it's utterly ridiculous that you should. Now knowing Fabregas is playing in a team that plays both of us, I can understand Spurs fans feeling like everyone is against them. Of course its all BS. Of course Fabregas wouldn't want Spurs to win, he's a former Arsenal and now Chelsea man. 

 

The thing with the Vardy thing is he can't go pointing in the refs face calling him a f*****g c*** and expect to not be punished. He's not being made a scapegoat at all. The penalty/dive/red card thing could have gone either way. The fact that so many are still split on it proves that. 

 

I don't see how if Spurs should win it, it would be hollow. It might not be AS crazy as Leicester winning it, but it would certainly be a fairytale for us too. We haven't won the league since 61! and only 2 times in our history. This is huge for us. Would be absolutely gutted to miss out now having got so close. 

[spurs1980]

Says nothing. The table doesn't lie, people don't say remember that amazing Arsenal team that finished runners up to Man Utd but they had more short passes... Blah blah blah, whoever wins the league will be the ones who deserve it. Just like LCFC deserve to be top currently as we have gained 5 more points than Spurs over the same number of matches.

For all you Spurs fans on here... I read an intersting stat the other day... Can't remember the exact figures but something like...

In tha last 38 games LCFC have amassed 91 points, 18 points more than any other team (Arsenal & Spurs both 73)

 

Agreed. People won't remember just how good Spurs were if Leicester win it in years to come. That's the only really important thing. 

[The Railway Man]

Agreed. People won't remember just how good Spurs were if Leicester win it in years to come. That's the only really important thing. 

 

Watching this Spurs side and how young it is I think you'll win a few league titles over the next ten years assuming you keep everything together. Only going to get better.

 

So you can leave this one to us

[yorkie1999]

I think we're probably all too involved right now that we probably read far too much into things. Journo's want to sell papers and Sky want a last day of the season title race. When Leicester are running away with it they roll with the punches and talk about the fairytale. Then Spurs fans complain. We all complain regardless of what side of the fence we sit on. Fabregas was on MNF blatantly saying he wants Leicester to win. I think most neutrals probably do because it's utterly ridiculous that you should. Now knowing Fabregas is playing in a team that plays both of us, I can understand Spurs fans feeling like everyone is against them. Of course its all BS. Of course Fabregas wouldn't want Spurs to win, he's a former Arsenal and now Chelsea man.

The thing with the Vardy thing is he can't go pointing in the refs face calling him a f*****g c*** and expect to not be punished. He's not being made a scapegoat at all. The penalty/dive/red card thing could have gone either way. The fact that so many are still split on it proves that.

I don't see how if Spurs should win it, it would be hollow. It might not be AS crazy as Leicester winning it, but it would certainly be a fairytale for us too. We haven't won the league since 61! and only 2 times in our history. This is huge for us. Would be absolutely gutted to miss out now having got so close.

It will be seem hollow simply because the referee for your game against stoke was changed due to allegations of being in a position to fix the match which then leads on to our top striker being banned by the same organisation after a report submitted by a dodgy referee.

[Kendal Fox]

I think we're probably all too involved right now that we probably read far too much into things. Journo's want to sell papers and Sky want a last day of the season title race. When Leicester are running away with it they roll with the punches and talk about the fairytale. Then Spurs fans complain. We all complain regardless of what side of the fence we sit on. Fabregas was on MNF blatantly saying he wants Leicester to win. I think most neutrals probably do because it's utterly ridiculous that you should. Now knowing Fabregas is playing in a team that plays both of us, I can understand Spurs fans feeling like everyone is against them. Of course its all BS. Of course Fabregas wouldn't want Spurs to win, he's a former Arsenal and now Chelsea man. 

 

The thing with the Vardy thing is he can't go pointing in the refs face calling him a f*****g c*** and expect to not be punished. He's not being made a scapegoat at all. The penalty/dive/red card thing could have gone either way. The fact that so many are still split on it proves that. 

 

I don't see how if Spurs should win it, it would be hollow. It might not be AS crazy as Leicester winning it, but it would certainly be a fairytale for us too. We haven't won the league since 61! and only 2 times in our history. This is huge for us. Would be absolutely gutted to miss out now having got so close. 

First off, fair play to you for a well balanced response and the ability to take a step back and make considered points. Apologies if I blanketed ALL Spurs fans.

 

Are Spurs the best team in the league in terms of consistency, right now? Yes, I would give you that. But my point about a potential Spurs title win being "hollow" was more from the perspective of it being helped in no small part by the FA handicapping us by banning Vardy for half of the remaining matches. You can say that Vardy was wrong for his outburst but the fact is we have not been playing badly and blown games in the run-in. That I could handle as it would be that we simply weren't good enough when push came to shove.

But as it currently stands, literally handicapping the club and team by suspending Vardy is not the same as say Liverpool - 2 years ago, when they were conceding goals all over the show, in several games that they won, before the "slip" vs Chelsea. Or Man Utd in 2012 - 8 points clear with 6 to go but playing very inconsistently, then losing and drawing, then losing to Man City and blowing it.

If it were the other way around, I know I'd always feel deep down an unsatisfactory feeling that we would never know for sure we'd have won, had the team in 1st place not been punished at the most vital of times. And that the circumstances surrounding the said punishment weren't as black and white as some might want to believe.

[Kendal Fox]

It will be seem hollow simply because the referee for your game against stoke was changed due to allegations of being in a position to fix the match which then leads on to our top striker being banned by the same organisation after a report submitted by a dodgy referee.

Very good points. It's the principle of the thing and it should not be brushed under the carpet.

[spurs1980]

First off, fair play to you for a well balanced response and the ability to take a step back and make considered points. Apologies if I blanketed ALL Spurs fans.

 

Are Spurs the best team in the league in terms of consistency, right now? Yes, I would give you that. But my point about a potential Spurs title win being "hollow" was more from the perspective of it being helped in no small part by the FA handicapping us by banning Vardy for half of the remaining matches. You can say that Vardy was wrong for his outburst but the fact is we have not been playing badly and blown games in the run-in. That I could handle as it would be that we simply weren't good enough when push came to shove.

But as it currently stands, literally handicapping the club and team by suspending Vardy is not the same as say Liverpool - 2 years ago, when they were conceding goals all over the show, in several games that they won, before the "slip" vs Chelsea. Or Man Utd in 2012 - 8 points clear with 6 to go but playing very inconsistently, then losing and drawing, then losing to Man City and blowing it.

If it were the other way around, I know I'd always feel deep down an unsatisfactory feeling that we would never know for sure we'd have won, had the team in 1st place not been punished at the most vital of times. And that the circumstances surrounding the said punishment weren't as black and white as some might want to believe.

 

Ahh ok yes I see what you mean. Of course I'd always prefer to win it where you guys are at full strength and if you blow it, you do it on your terms (if that makes sense). 

 

These things happen though. I wish Dembele had started the game v you lot, and even Rose. But hey that's just the way it goes unfortunately. The thing is the dive or non dive is certainly debatable. But as a non Leicester fan I can see why it was given (hardly impartial considering I'm a Spurs fan!)

 

As it happens, I struggle to see you dropping enough points. Then again IF and it's a massive if, we manage to win all out games we only need you guys to lose 1 and draw 1 which isn't impossible. It's all to play for still, and I agree with those saying if it were offered to me that Spurs were 5 points clear with Kane suspended at this stage of the season I'd take it. 

[spurs1980]

Watching this Spurs side and how young it is I think you'll win a few league titles over the next ten years assuming you keep everything together. Only going to get better.

 

So you can leave this one to us

Mate, if that was DEFINITELY going to happen, then I could stomach losing out to you lot haha. I think it's a little disrespectful to simply expect that Leicester will just go away next season. I don't expect you to win it, but I don't expect it to go back to two years ago either. 

[spurs1980]

It will be seem hollow simply because the referee for your game against stoke was changed due to allegations of being in a position to fix the match which then leads on to our top striker being banned by the same organisation after a report submitted by a dodgy referee.

 

Yea that stinks to be honest. I don't like that the ref was changed. I think the FA are suggesting that refs are not 100% impartial by doing this. Even Pochettino said he wanted referees to be trusted. Spurs certainly never asked for it.

[Fox 4 Life]

Its probably been said but my favourite thing is them all saying "We deserve to win the title as we are by far the best team in the league this season". Hmmmm why the **** are we 5 points ahead of you after 34 games then?

[spursy]

Spurs fans are mainly morons and their forum is a joke. In recent weeks they have played decent football but at the start of the season they were poor, we were playing better football than them earlier in the year, it is a run of good form and high confidence. We were beating teams like Stoke / Swansea etc 3-0 and could have easily won these about 8-0.

Their fans think they are so superior to us but their hardest part of the season is when they played us 3 games in a row, when it mattered we beat them 0-1 in their own back garden. Ok they dominated the game but didn't really create many clear cut chances due to our superior defence. They are p*ssed off and bitter cos we are 5 points clear... Quite frankly spurs fans..... Ahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha

It's classy comments like this that stain the rest of a team's fan base.  If you took the time to visit the Spur's forums (we have a few, not just one), you would see that there are many fans who give you credit and an equal number that are critical of our team and its performances.  So when you make broad sweeping comments like this, you just reinforce the negative views fans of opposing teams may have.

 

When I joined this forum I expected to see a lot of crap talked about Spurs and Leicester bigged up as the greatest team that ever played, yet I saw a lot of your fans giving respect where it's due.  It's a shame when I see comments like yours to ruin that impression.

 

As for whether we are bitter, we really aren't.  We didn't expect to be at this stage of our development until a couple of seasons from now, so we are over the moon with what our team has achieved.  And more importantly, how it is poised to compete for the title in the years to come.  I hope you guys are able to keep this up next season too, as it will make for a really interesting title chase!

[Rusko187]

I think we're probably all too involved right now that we probably read far too much into things. Journo's want to sell papers and Sky want a last day of the season title race. When Leicester are running away with it they roll with the punches and talk about the fairytale. Then Spurs fans complain. We all complain regardless of what side of the fence we sit on. Fabregas was on MNF blatantly saying he wants Leicester to win. I think most neutrals probably do because it's utterly ridiculous that you should. Now knowing Fabregas is playing in a team that plays both of us, I can understand Spurs fans feeling like everyone is against them. Of course its all BS. Of course Fabregas wouldn't want Spurs to win, he's a former Arsenal and now Chelsea man. 

 

The thing with the Vardy thing is he can't go pointing in the refs face calling him a f*****g c*** and expect to not be punished. He's not being made a scapegoat at all. The penalty/dive/red card thing could have gone either way. The fact that so many are still split on it proves that. 

 

I don't see how if Spurs should win it, it would be hollow. It might not be AS crazy as Leicester winning it, but it would certainly be a fairytale for us too. We haven't won the league since 61! and only 2 times in our history. This is huge for us. Would be absolutely gutted to miss out now having got so close. 

 

Honestly the only reason I would agree "hollow" would not be a discredit against Spurs, think personally they have played the best football in the league... but when you have a team with longer odds than Hugh Heffner to admit he's a virgin (which was at 1000/1), than a failure for that team to do it would feel a bit... meh! Had Leicester not been in the mix I have no doubt in my mind the media would be whipping up a frenzy, a team dominated with young English talent... what's not to admire.

[spursy]

12th highest income in world football so it's not a great shock that you operate within your means if you include the world record transfer fee for Bale.

 

We haven't received a fee of anything more than £3-4m since Heskey was sold to Liverpool about 15 years a go.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

You will this summer.

[spursy]

I think we're probably all too involved right now that we probably read far too much into things. Journo's want to sell papers and Sky want a last day of the season title race. When Leicester are running away with it they roll with the punches and talk about the fairytale. Then Spurs fans complain. We all complain regardless of what side of the fence we sit on. Fabregas was on MNF blatantly saying he wants Leicester to win. I think most neutrals probably do because it's utterly ridiculous that you should. Now knowing Fabregas is playing in a team that plays both of us, I can understand Spurs fans feeling like everyone is against them. Of course its all BS. Of course Fabregas wouldn't want Spurs to win, he's a former Arsenal and now Chelsea man. 

 

The thing with the Vardy thing is he can't go pointing in the refs face calling him a f*****g c*** and expect to not be punished. He's not being made a scapegoat at all. The penalty/dive/red card thing could have gone either way. The fact that so many are still split on it proves that. 

 

I don't see how if Spurs should win it, it would be hollow. It might not be AS crazy as Leicester winning it, but it would certainly be a fairytale for us too. We haven't won the league since 61! and only 2 times in our history. This is huge for us. Would be absolutely gutted to miss out now having got so close. 

I wouldn't be so much.  We're poised to mount a title challenge for the foreseeable future.  For Leicester it's truly a once-in-three-lifetimes chance.  I wouldn't mind them winning it this year.  We'll get the next two.

[m4DD0gg]

Spurs fans want this so bad as they know their manager will be gone soon and their side will slowly get dismantled.

[ARCHER]

I wouldn't be so much. We're poised to mount a title challenge for the foreseeable future. For Leicester it's truly a once-in-three-lifetimes chance. I wouldn't mind them winning it this year. We'll get the next two.

I really don't understand other teams fans fascination with commenting on other forums? I would have thought a Spurs fan with so much time on his hands might consider volunteering with the local SHOMRIM?

[spursy]

First off, fair play to you for a well balanced response and the ability to take a step back and make considered points. Apologies if I blanketed ALL Spurs fans.

 

Are Spurs the best team in the league in terms of consistency, right now? Yes, I would give you that. But my point about a potential Spurs title win being "hollow" was more from the perspective of it being helped in no small part by the FA handicapping us by banning Vardy for half of the remaining matches. You can say that Vardy was wrong for his outburst but the fact is we have not been playing badly and blown games in the run-in. That I could handle as it would be that we simply weren't good enough when push came to shove.

But as it currently stands, literally handicapping the club and team by suspending Vardy is not the same as say Liverpool - 2 years ago, when they were conceding goals all over the show, in several games that they won, before the "slip" vs Chelsea. Or Man Utd in 2012 - 8 points clear with 6 to go but playing very inconsistently, then losing and drawing, then losing to Man City and blowing it.

If it were the other way around, I know I'd always feel deep down an unsatisfactory feeling that we would never know for sure we'd have won, had the team in 1st place not been punished at the most vital of times. And that the circumstances surrounding the said punishment weren't as black and white as some might want to believe.

There have been many calls that have gone the Foxes' way in earlier games (handballs in the area not called, etc.).  So to focus on just this one is a bit disingenuous.  But even if we admit that it was the wrong call (and I'm 70% convinced it was), all Vardy had to do is keep his mouth shut and it would have been a one-match ban, said match being against Swansea, who I am sure you can dispose of without him.  Now he may miss the Utd game too.  As incensed as you are with Moss (he was shite, admittedly), you should be equally so with Vardy.  I know I would be if one of our players did something similar at such a critical juncture of the season.

[spursy]

I really don't understand other teams fans fascination with commenting on other forums? I would have thought a Spurs fan with so much time on his hands might consider volunteering with the local SHOMRIM?

My forum (glory-glory) has been down the past 3-4 days, so I'm killing some time.

[yorkie1999]

Yea that stinks to be honest. I don't like that the ref was changed. I think the FA are suggesting that refs are not 100% impartial by doing this. Even Pochettino said he wanted referees to be trusted. Spurs certainly never asked for it.

Thfc probably didnt but spurs fans did through social media. I dont think the fa would have been bothered about it, but as i understand it they changed the ref due to the amount of spurs fans complaining about refereeing bias just because the guy lives in leicestershire, so if anything its the spurs fans questioning the integrity of the fa.

[spurs1980]

Thfc probably didnt but spurs fans did through social media. I dont think the fa would have been bothered about it, but as i understand it they changed the ref due to the amount of spurs fans complaining about refereeing bias just because the guy lives in leicestershire, so if anything its the spurs fans questioning the integrity of the fa.

They're fans. Fans say anything and everything. Don't tell me you don't have knee-jerk fans who talk rubbish on social media? With all due respect you have plenty on this thread alone.

[Carl the Llama]

I wouldn't be so much. We're poised to mount a title challenge for the foreseeable future. For Leicester it's truly a once-in-three-lifetimes chance. I wouldn't mind them winning it this year. We'll get the next two.

Do you honestly expect us to just drop off next season? Aren't you the chap who was just having a go at someone for being disrespectful about spurs fans being morons? Do you understand the term "irony"?

[yorkie1999]

I just want to know whos man utd's next manager...