What I do not understand about Spurs fans...

SpinneyHillRanger · 5 May 2016

Pochetino weakness as a coach is that he's not willing to adapt to the game situation. A bit like Bielsa their single mindedness is a big weakness. just look at Bielsas career, great coach and some great stories about him... but has he ever won when it really mattered, with argentina, chile or club teams in europe?

IMO, he won't take spurs to the top next year as he can't adapt to game situations. Playing hard and fighting hard is all good... but at the end of the day spurs can really only play one way. you may call it more pretty than Leicester or the likes of Atletico MAdrid... but when it matters you can't really depend on spurs to hold on to leads. Spurs manager will be another north london bottle job... They are only three points ahead of Arsenal and they are raving about this great season.... if Arsenal even played a few games 5% harder one of arsenals worse seasons in years would still be better than spurs.

I can see spurs again being the "hardest team" to play against in the league, but doubt they will win it. Just like Arsenal played the "prettiest football" but did win the league ever since the invincibles side all those years ago.

SpacedX · 5 May 2016

I would hope that The Fighting Cock is not a representative cross section of Spurs fans. The bitterness and hatred appears to be a coping mechanism but unbelievably the irrationality of doping allegations, which you would think are in jest, have surfaced again. Pochettino is renowned for his innovative approaches to mental preparation and training regimes and much of this originated and was embraced at Southampton. As someone posted on FT, Paul Balsom followed Pearson from the Saints who are not only famous for their academy but also the sports science/medicine as a similar centre of excellence.

You'd hope that objectively, in a desire to understand the pioneering science that drives the competitive modern game and with a similar affinity due to practice at their own training facility in Enfield that Spurs fans would take an interest in the empirical facts and data, as opposed to subscribing to anecdotal factoid and red top hysteria.

This should be mandatory reading.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189778

kingcarr21 · 5 May 2016

Fans crying over Vards tweet lol Its like a f****** playground here. Wah wah wah how would you like it if he sent it to you. Get a f****** grip. Kane sent the original tweet don't be upset when it bites you in the arse. Its harmless fun.

I would absolutely wet myself if Arsenal finish above them.

AyewJoking · 5 May 2016

what is the closest spurs have been behind us this season?

certainly, since the "title race" kicked in i cant recall them getting closer than 3 behind?????

they remained our biggest threat for a while and kept the pressure on but were always chasing and just trying to get within touching distance rather than battle it out face to face.

im not certain of the facts so perhaps someone could look into it :thumbup:

CosbehFox · 5 May 2016

I was disappointed with our centre backs in hindsight actually considering they'd both won titles with Ajax and Altetico. They should have known how to calm the game down and take the sting out of it but the problem, and I use that word in the lightest sense because I love the unity this team has(it looks the same with you guys), is that they are all so close and fight for each other and have each others backs. We needed an outfield Captain rather than Lloris on Monday night

Team loyalties apart, I think both of your centre backs are over rated.

alderweireld couldn't get in Atleti's team, he was at fault for both goals on Monday and he had spells of struggling at Southampton. He's generally been excellent though this season and he will come good.

Verthongen's issue is that he's arrogant. He plays arrogant. The way he holds on the ball for too long, he allows attackers half a chance of getting the ball. He did himself no favours after we beat you in January when he labelled us long ball and that Spurs knew how to stop us. He said that after the game. I really don't think he's the type of player what can achieve success in a top division and I honestly think that.

CosbehFox · 5 May 2016

what is the closest spurs have been behind us this season?

certainly, since the "title race" kicked in i cant recall them getting closer than 3 behind?????

they remained our biggest threat for a while and kept the pressure on but were always chasing and just trying to get within touching distance rather than battle it out face to face.

im not certain of the facts so perhaps someone could look into it

They were top for 13 minutes during a fixture

biggs · 5 May 2016

The Vardy tweet was absolute class compared to the overconfident Kane cocky tweet before spurs had won anything. Probably Kane's tweet gave us a little added charge to our battle during the run in.

Again which player showed composure. Kane got ahead of himself, Vardy in control and not full of himself.

reynard · 5 May 2016

Some on here have allowed The Fighting Cock to get to them. It is clearly a forum for the maladjusted pre-pubescent moron who seems to think that the only word which can be used to describe anything is four letters long and begins with c! Their opinions count for nothing just as their heads are full of nothing. They are clearly not representative of the average Spurs fan and probably not representative of much of mankind.

Most Spurs fans I know are decent football supporters who have been just as desperate for success as we have been, and given the amount of money they have spent (don't bloody mention net spend) I'm not surprised. Their average team starting cost according to the BBC, so we'll allow some deviation, was 99 million so roughly double our entire squad.

They have been a really good side this season playing positive football with a good core of young English players. Their fans will, I'm sure, have several seasons to enjoy. However, they lost it badly against Chelsea and to a lesser extent against West Brom. At home to the latter the difference between them and us was clear not only on the pitch but off it. Against West Ham, and impeded by the worst ref in the division, our players didn't give up they kept going and so did the fans. The positive atmosphere in the stands helped the players on the pitch. At Spurs it simply wasn't there. The fans didn't back the team, where were the keyboard warriors of The Fighting Cock when their team needed them? The place was quiet and the players not surprisingly failed.

Then against Chelsea the supporters were there but the team failed utterly and completely. The impetuosity of youth overtook any sound and rational thinking they may have had. 2-0 up and they literally blew it. They were greatly helped by having one of the country's best refs in charge of the match. If John Moss had been in charge they would have at least three players sent off. Their performance was frankly disgusting. A throwback to the "dirty" Leeds side of the 1970s. There were tackles that should have been punished by red cards and could have seriously injured fellow professionals. That only one player is being charged, for an incident so disgusting that he should get at least a ten match ban, is quite incredible. They were led by a manager who also simply lost it. Not once but twice he entered the field of play, and could easily have inflamed the situation.

Of course good sides and good managers learn from these errors and next season I'm sure they will be back stronger for they are a gifted set of players and a big club who will probably splash the cash once more.

kojak · 6 May 2016

I'm not going to have a debate with you on a Leicester City forum, especially in their moment of triumph. But I will say this....go and have a look at your 'support' on your own Shed End forum for the match....the first 19 pages are full of bile about your own team, from your own fans, someone even suggested boo'ing them off at half time. That is the epitome of the new plastic Chelsea fan.....not those who have supported the club through the 60's and 70's. You should be asking yourself what happened to your players this season, the multi millionnaires that got the special one sacked and couldn't defend the title.... not trying to bask in Leicester's fantastic achievement. Pathetic.

Clueless. Shed chat is a well known site for knobs (there are a few old timers but they usually, like me, get banned for calling out the trolls on there. Take a look at one of the unofficial sites & you'll see they're very different indeed). If yu ever get success again you will find that you will also suffer from the glory seekers attaching themselves to your club).Ask Man utd.

What happened to our players is they took their foot off the pedal, not good I agree, but at least these very same players have achieved more than any of your players have for 55 years.That can not be taken away from them.

Couldn't defend the title?? The nerve of it, your players can't even win it once, let alone defend it. It is incredibly hard to defend the title (you should know, you have never in the history of your club defended it, mind you, you've only ever won it twice). Unlike Chelsea of course, who, along with only Man Utd, have successfully defended the Prem title.

Bask in Leicester's achievement??? No mate, just pleased to see a team who truly deserve it get it, & because I'm fond of our ex-manager Claudio. Claudio richly deserves some success, he's nearly 70, put so much into football & came close a few times.

I find Spurs fans to be bitter & twisted--would hate to see you win anything. Look at how your moronic players reacted to a couple of throwaway comments--it was pathetic, Leicester have carried themselves in a far far better & more professional way---therefore deserving it more.

kojak · 6 May 2016

All your success if hollow. Funded by Russian mafia $$$. We are doing it the right way. So we haven't won much lately but that looks very much like changing.

No wind up tactics? They started before the game when Fabregas and Hazard piped in saying they wouldn't let us win the league, basically they would have scored 100 own goals if it went to the last day.

Hope Cesc's hand amputation went well. Heard he had to get Costa to wipe his vagina after the game as well.

I have no issue with the celebrations. It shows how far we've come that the biggest thing Chelsea could celebrate this season was Spurs not being able to win the league.

Also, where was your players fight from Monday all season? Laughable. You'd be right up there with us and Leicester had your players played like that 75% of the season.

You're embarrassing yourself mate. Hollow? Why? Dunno how far your memory goes back but CFC were winning trophies BEFORE Roman, 4 trophies in the 6 yrs prior to Roman. We had qualified for the CL twice as many times as Spurs had BEFORE Roman arrived. We had won more trophies in Europe than you BEFORE Roman arrived.

Our title success last season----Do you think it was hollow because we had made a profit on transfers for the TWO years prior to the season of winning it? (the only time any club has ever done this in the Prem)

Wind up tactics?? Are you for real? A couple of little comments eh, oh dear, that must have cut deep. Your players need to grow up & get a grip. If they break out in a violent rage because an opponent says he'd rather see another team win the title then that is, quite frankly, pathetic. Are we talking about men or boys? They would let in 100 gls?? Now you're getting desperate. Is it not fair, not fair that some other clubs player doesn't want you to win the Lge?Arrr.. I can assure you, you are not going to get the success you are hoping for with that attitude. If & when you ever become a successful, trophy winning club, you will get much worse than that. The team that wins the lge every year has to accept that the oppo in every game will always put that extra effort in to beating you. Are you going to cry "unfair" then too? Are you going to whinge that this isn't right, it's not fair, they're winding us up?

Fabregas was pathetic I agree. Do you agree with me that when he was at the hospital having his hand removed, Lamela should have been at his side having his massive snide personality removed too? What a cowardly snide he was. If you're gonna do a player then do him, but don't be an embarrassing snidey wimp--"who me gov" as he looks around like a lost child not man enough to confront Fabregas (who is hardly frightening himself) to his face.

Where were our players you ask? They were taking their foot off the pedal, bit rich for you to criticise them as they have all achieved more in the game (actually winning the Prem, not R/U) than any of your players have for 55 years. Nothing, not even 9th place, can change that.

kojak · 6 May 2016

Never liked spurs since that 4-4 back in 2004 so have that ya cvnts OiOi

Never liked 'em since I was conceived

kojak · 6 May 2016

I am Spurs and Dont know any other Spurs fan who has any resentment to Leicester. Of course there was banter and some got carried away but no more than any other team trying to chase a lead down. This season title race for once was conducted without the normal mind games or bitterness but by two teams built on teamwork, hard work and respect (apart from Monday night at the chavs) led by two managers who showed how things can be done.

Don't let Chelsea high jack you celebrations, because that is all they have left this season, They played a tiny part in it, like every other team we dropped points too. YOU won the title, and for their fans and players to suggest otherwise only demeans what you achieved. I guarantee come the last game of the season they will treat you like brothers in arms wanting thanks for drawing with Spurs so they won you the title instead of acknowledging you and your achievement alone as champions.

Congratulations LCFC I like many Spurs fans salute you.

No, the main reason Chelsea fans are happy for Leicester is because of Claudio Ranieri. He is, & always has been, fondly thought of at Chelsea. He was our longest serving manager for the last 32 years.

Mampi · 6 May 2016

What I found flattering about the game in Fulham is Chelsea players running the ball to the corner flag to hold on to a 2-2 draw at home vs Spurs - a home banker.

I have seen so many 2-0 Chelsea fixtures there (or games to that effect) - and although Chelsea have had a bad season - Spurs managed to draw away against handsomely paid World Cup and Champions League winners that came at us with everything they had. There was massive effort from Chelsea players - and this to me shows that Spurs are ready to compete with the best in Europe when the stakes are high.

We played a top quality side giving '110%' and came out with their own fans delighted not to lose.

Last season Chelsea lost 3 games and only conceded 32 goals all season.. 1 of those losses and 5 of those goals were at White Hart Lane. I think Spurs are just better than Chelsea now. Whether or not silverware will follow, only time will tell - but track record (my life of being a Spurs fan) suggests otherwise.

Vardinhio · 6 May 2016

The only thing they had to play for was you guys not winning the title. That is why they took it to the corner.

FireFox · 6 May 2016

Last season Chelsea lost 3 games and only conceded 32 goals all season.. 1 of those losses and 5 of those goals were at White Hart Lane. I think Spurs are just better than Chelsea now. Whether or not silverware will follow, only time will tell - but track record (my life of being a Spurs fan) suggests otherwise.

Lmfao. This season Spurs have been better than Chelsea, a Chelsea who had a disastrous season, that doesn't mean you're a better team.

When was the last time you finished above Chelsea? What track record? Winning a few games against them? How long have you been a Spurs fan? All you've won in 20 years is 2 League Cups.

LestaFox92 · 6 May 2016

What I found flattering about the game in Fulham is Chelsea players running the ball to the corner flag to hold on to a 2-2 draw at home vs Spurs - a home banker.

I have seen so many 2-0 Chelsea fixtures there (or games to that effect) - and although Chelsea have had a bad season - Spurs managed to draw away against handsomely paid World Cup and Champions League winners that came at us with everything they had. There was massive effort from Chelsea players - and this to me shows that Spurs are ready to compete with the best in Europe when the stakes are high.

We played a top quality side giving '110%' and came out with their own fans delighted not to lose.

Last season Chelsea lost 3 games and only conceded 32 goals all season.. 1 of those losses and 5 of those goals were at White Hart Lane. I think Spurs are just better than Chelsea now. Whether or not silverware will follow, only time will tell - but track record (my life of being a Spurs fan) suggests otherwise.

Lets be real chelsea's defence gifted you 2 goals and the other massive chance you had to put the game to bed mason fluffed.Also once that first went in the writing was on the wall genuienly feel like your players lost the plot and if thats the case next season cant see you winning many "big" games.

SpursInPeace · 6 May 2016

Lets be real chelsea's defence gifted you 2 goals and the other massive chance you had to put the game to bed mason fluffed.Also once that first went in the writing was on the wall genuienly feel like your players lost the plot and if thats the case next season cant see you winning many "big" games.

Well we did ok v City twice, smashed United, should have beaten Arsenal twice, played Liverpool in Klopps first game and in the away game were the only team playing for the win. Think we did ok in the big games bar the home one v Leicester.

We lost the plot on Monday cos we knew we were going to be out of reach of Leicester. It's over now and I think this discussion needs to end as well. The football weekend is here again so we have an opportunity to put it right v Saints

Foxymcoxy · 6 May 2016

Who cares about Spurs? Totally irrelevant to me now same as the rest lol

shade · 6 May 2016

I get no pleasure in saying I think spurs are destined to be perennial nearly men.

fuchsntf · 6 May 2016

Some on here have allowed The Fighting Cock to get to them. It is clearly a forum for the maladjusted pre-pubescent moron who seems to think that the only word which can be used to describe anything is four letters long and begins with c! Their opinions count for nothing just as their heads are full of nothing. They are clearly not representative of the average Spurs fan and probably not representative of much of mankind.

Most Spurs fans I know are decent football supporters who have been just as desperate for success as we have been, and given the amount of money they have spent (don't bloody mention net spend) I'm not surprised. Their average team starting cost according to the BBC, so we'll allow some deviation, was 99 million so roughly double our entire squad.

They have been a really good side this season playing positive football with a good core of young English players. Their fans will, I'm sure, have several seasons to enjoy. However, they lost it badly against Chelsea and to a lesser extent against West Brom. At home to the latter the difference between them and us was clear not only on the pitch but off it. Against West Ham, and impeded by the worst ref in the division, our players didn't give up they kept going and so did the fans. The positive atmosphere in the stands helped the players on the pitch. At Spurs it simply wasn't there. The fans didn't back the team, where were the keyboard warriors of The Fighting Cock when their team needed them? The place was quiet and the players not surprisingly failed.

Then against Chelsea the supporters were there but the team failed utterly and completely. The impetuosity of youth overtook any sound and rational thinking they may have had. 2-0 up and they literally blew it. They were greatly helped by having one of the country's best refs in charge of the match. If John Moss had been in charge they would have at least three players sent off. Their performance was frankly disgusting. A throwback to the "dirty" Leeds side of the 1970s. There were tackles that should have been punished by red cards and could have seriously injured fellow professionals. That only one player is being charged, for an incident so disgusting that he should get at least a ten match ban, is quite incredible. They were led by a manager who also simply lost it. Not once but twice he entered the field of play, and could easily have inflamed the situation.

Of course good sides and good managers learn from these errors and next season I'm sure they will be back stronger for they are a gifted set of players and a big club who will probably splash the cash once more.

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