Premier League Season 2016-17 Stuff it in here.

[SlaneyLCFC]

1 hour ago, purpleronnie said:

Yep because that deserves to be knocked out over doesn't it.  Grow up.

Oh do bore off you Tim Farron remoaning wet blanket 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, SlaneyLCFC said:

Who's to say barkley wasn't stood there giving it big licks and gobbing off? 

others on the night out who saw him out said he was fine and having a good laugh with everyone, taking pictures with those that asked etc

1 hour ago, z-layrex said:

Of course he was. No smoke without fire.

 

If you don't look for trouble or let yourself react 99% of the time you won't find it.

not necessarily. the guy who hit him is an absolute **** whatever the case. Hardly looks like they're having a massive argument or proper going for each other. 

[purpleronnie]

25 minutes ago, SlaneyLCFC said:

 wet blanket 

Go tell the families of people who have been killed by punches like that.

 

Moron.

[the fox]

Tell you what, those little taps that Barkley gave that man didn't scream "friendly" to me, the way he put his hand on the other man's shoulder bringing him down a little can be interpreted as a hostile act, especially when you add the music, the alcohol can make people agitated, the way the other man took a step back and lowered his chin was defensive, and that little tap on the chin was what triggered the man, I don't like cheap shots, but if the talk between the two was heated then he should've put his guards up.

 

I could be reading too much into it, so I will be waiting for more details on the incident.

[StanSP]

30 minutes ago, the fox said:

Tell you what, those little taps that Barkley gave that man didn't scream "friendly" to me, the way he put his hands on the other man's shoulder bringing him down a little can be interpreted as a hostile act, especially when you add the music, the alcohol can make people agitated, the way the other man took a step back and lowered his chin was defensive, and that little tap on the chin was what triggered the him, I don't like cheap shots, but if the talk between the two was heated then he should've put his guards up.

 

I could be reading too much into it, so I will be waiting for more details on the incident.

music  

how do you know there was alcohol involved? 

[the fox]

Just now, StanSP said:

music  

how do you know there was alcohol involved? 

Wasn't it a bar/club, again, that's just speculations from my side.

[StanSP]

27 minutes ago, the fox said:

Wasn't it a bar/club, again, that's just speculations from my side.

so? what has music got to do with it?

 

And not everyone drinks alcohol in a bar/club.

[the fox]

Just now, StanSP said:

so? what has music got to do with it?

 

And not everyone drinks alcohol in a bar/club.

Loud music can make you disoriented. And like I said, just speculations, they both could be sober and maybe there was no music, who knows.

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, SlaneyLCFC said:

Oh do bore off you Tim Farron remoaning wet blanket 

A banning offence, if you ask me - what kind of mindless crap is this?

 

Unless of course you're indulging in irony, in which case I apologise profusely.

[filbertway]

17 minutes ago, the fox said:

Loud music can make you disoriented. And like I said, just speculations, they both could be sober and maybe there was no music, who knows.

It would be the worst bar in the world if there was no alcohol or music though to be fair, so I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

[Gerard]

1 hour ago, the fox said:

Tell you what, those little taps that Barkley gave that man didn't scream "friendly" to me, the way he put his hands on the other man's shoulder bringing him down a little can be interpreted as a hostile act, especially when you add the music, the alcohol can make people agitated, the way the other man took a step back and lowered his chin was defensive, and that little tap on the chin was what triggered the him, I don't like cheap shots, but if the talk between the two was heated then he should've put his guards up.

 

I could be reading too much into it, so I will be waiting for more details on the incident.

 

I agree with the little taps on the face.

 

It's condescending if someone does that to you who is a stranger or does that without the permission to do that (like a relative or friend).  It's obvious it wasn't a friendly conversation and the little tap on the face was probably the trigger point for the guy punching him.

[the fox]

9 minutes ago, filbertway said:

It would be the worst bar in the world if there was no alcohol or music though to be fair, so I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

For some reason I imagined people just dancing in a slow tempo and drinking water with no music and this pic popped on my mined???

[the fox]

2 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

I agree with the little taps on the face.

 

It's condescending if someone does that to you who is a stranger or does that without the permission to do that (like a relative or friend).  It's obvious it wasn't a friendly conversation and the little tap on the face was probably the trigger point for the guy punching him.

Add to that the fact Barkley is a famous English player, and by reputation, that would be a recipe for disaster, and imagine being the guy that K.O'd one of the big names in english football, no doubt some of his mates will look to him as a big shot now.

[StanSP]

36 minutes ago, filbertway said:

It would be the worst bar in the world if there was no alcohol or music though to be fair, so I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

 my point wasn't that there was no music or alcohol ffs.

 

I meant that music in the bar is unlikely to have a bearing on whether someone gets up in your face or makes you want to argue with someone/punch someone in the face.

 

I'd presume words were said between the two and who knows what was said. But I doubt it was because of a song playing in the bar  

[SlaneyLCFC]

2 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

Go tell the families of people who have been killed by punches like that.

 

Moron.

Jesus christ. 

 

55 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

A banning offence, if you ask me - what kind of mindless crap is this?

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Unless of course you're indulging in irony, in which case I apologise profusely.

[the fox]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I meant that music in the bar is unlikely to have a bearing on whether someone gets up in your face or makes you want to argue with someone/punch someone in the face.

 

I'd presume words were said between the two and who knows what was said. But I doubt it was because of a song playing in the bar  

Well, he was whispering in his ear, don't think he did that for no reason apart from facing a hard time getting his words through the loud music, and frustration can be built if something is bothering you.

[StanSP]

Just now, the fox said:

Well, he was whispering in his ear, don't think he did that for no reason apart from facing a hard time getting his words through the loud music

I can't imagine the issue is whether you hear what someone said; more the fact on what was said. 

[the fox]

10 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I can't imagine the issue is whether you hear what someone said; more the fact on what was said. 

Just edited my comment, but imagine this, you have a nickname that you don't like but you don't usually get mad at people for saying it, now imagine you had a couple and you are in a bad mood, there are some really heavy noises and a guy is just Pocking you and saying "listen here, stany boy" "its not like this, stany boy" "you shouldn't have done that, stany lad" and keeps on touching you and he suddenly touches your face, tell me  he doesn't deserves to kiss the hand.

[ARTY_FOX]

It doesn't look like Barkley is even doing anything aggressive there. In fact it looks more like a 'Sorry I don't want any trouble' kind of thing to me

[the fox]

1 minute ago, ARTY_FOX said:

It doesn't look like Barkley is even doing anything aggressive there. In fact it looks more like a 'Sorry I don't want any trouble' kind of thing to me

Could be, but him touching the other man's face doesn't exactly suggest that.

[StanSP]

14 minutes ago, the fox said:

Just edited my comment, but imagine this, you have a nickname that you don't like but you don't usually get mad at people for saying it, now imagine you had a couple and you are in a bad mood, there are some really heavy noises and a guy is just Pocking you and saying "listen here, stany boy" "its not like this, stany boy" "you shouldn't have done that, stany lad" and keeps on touching you and he suddenly touches your face, tell me  he doesn't deserves to kiss the hand.

again that's to do with what's being said and the way it's being said. Confrontational words etc. 

 

it's all speculation as we've both said previously. For me, Barkley does nothing wrong and it looks like the guy who's punched him can expect a GBH charge when police get hold of him, even if Barkley did utter some words he didn't like. 

[the fox]

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

again that's to do with what's being said and the way it's being said. Confrontational words etc. 

 

it's all speculation as we've both said previously. For me, Barkley does nothing wrong and it looks like the guy who's punched him can expect a GBH charge when police get hold of him, even if Barkley did utter some words he didn't like. 

Hope it was just a little misunderstanding in the heat of the moment, last thing English players need is to have the public look at them the wrong way just because one of them did/say something stupid.

[HighPeakFox]

34 minutes ago, SlaneyLCFC said:

Jesus christ. 

 

A picture of a dangerous narcissist - that really clears it up, thanks.

[Aus Fox]

Genuinely shocked that some people think this behaviour is ok or excusable.

 

[Gerard]

28 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

It doesn't look like Barkley is even doing anything aggressive there. In fact it looks more like a 'Sorry I don't want any trouble' kind of thing to me

 

When you're having an obvious disagreement about something and and the other guy invades your space and touches you patronisingly on the face then I can fully understand why he threw a right hook.