Is there a hidden agenda behind Arsene Wenger wanting to sign Jamie Vardy?

[Jace]

Ok now this isn't a conspiracy theory, more just an eye opening into what Arsene gets if he were to successfully sign Jamie Vardy. Now we aware of the stick Arsene has received this season for bottling it again in the title run this year, more so I think not because they lost the title to Chelsea or Man City or United or even Liverpool no they bottled it in massive style against us, last seasons relegation scraping Leicester City. 

 

Now Wenger has always been well respected in football for his shrewd purchases and eye for upcoming talent, he's always been the manager who could compete with the big teams without always spending as much as the other guys, now one of the things that has surprised me with this whole Jamie Vardy transfer saga is how much Arsenal fans are against signing him. So far from what I have seen from Arsenal fans no one feels Vardy will be a good investment for them, many voicing their options that he wouldn't fit in well with their possession passing style of football. What has also has surprised me is the lack of respect that has been given to Vardy from within the Arsenal camp within the last few days in the media, firstly Giroud speaking publicly about Vardys desire to join them and then today Wenger stating that he doesn't feel Vardy have enough international experience to start for England in the World Cup? Hang on wasn't this the same guy who suggested to Sven Goran Eriksson 10 years ago that a 17 year old Theo Walcott should be selected for England in the World Cup? 

 

All this got me thinking what if we have another year better than Arsenal next season? How would the Arsenal fans and media react to us spending such little money in comparison to the big clubs and succeeding again? What must Arsene do this year for them to be better than us next year? We know he doesn't believe in defensive football, so how does he compete with arguably the greatest defensive, counter attacking team we have ever seen in the Premier League?

 

So it makes me think what if Jamie Vardy does turn out to be a flop at Arsenal? What would be the worst case scenario for them? Well for £20 million he may end up with a player whom he can resell again in a years time for £12 million? But most importantly for Wenger he knows he has taken away the biggest catalyst in Leicester's direct style of football, as well as getting the ball rolling potentially for other key players to leave. Its a win/win scenario for Wenger, either he gets a good signing or if he doesn't he's dismantled the team currently threating his legacy. Personally I think Leicester at the moment are Arsene's biggest threat in 20 years at Arsenal, he cannot afford to have another season behind us again. If he does his reputation at the club will be in tatters and he's already expecting heavy competition next season from Klopp, Mourinho, Guardiola and pochettino.

 

Is coming 2nd/3rd or 4th as unacceptable to Man United, Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea as unacceptable as it is to coming runners up to us? Teams that frequently spend £100+ million plus on new players in the transfer windows whilst Arsenal shy away from that type of business? For years Wenger being playing the sensible spending card making it look like he was doing a great job. Would Arsenal fans accept another season behind us in the title race? I don't think so and I think Wenger knows it too. 

[johnny the fox]

So he is buying vardy hoping he is s h i t? 

[Jace]

So he is buying vardy hoping he is s h i t? 

 

I think this has gone a bit over your head 

[johnny the fox]

I think this has gone a bit over your head 

yeah your far too deep for me pal..

[Foxes1]

He only wants Jamie so he can use him as bait to lure Riyhad.

[erlee]

He only wants Jamie so he can use him as bait to lure Riyhad.

why -are they good pals??

 

yep they are all so very cheap with low release-clau$e$....  soon they 'll be buying Drinky + Fuchs

[Jace]

yeah your far too deep for me pal..

 

 

Think you mean you're mate 

[davieG]

The whole package is reported as costing nearer £40mill and if Vardy fails he'll be lucky to offload him before the 4 year contract runs out on the wages being reported never mind getting £12 mill for him

[Webbo]

The whole package is reported as costing nearer £40mill and if Vardy fails he'll be lucky to offload him before the 4 year contract runs out on the wages being reported never mind getting £12 mill for him

120 per week is over 6 million a year, 4 years that makes 24 million plus 20 million transfer fee makes 46. A signing on fee and possibly a fee for his agent it could be anything up to 50 million.

[Kitchandro]

Well this was my thinking. It's a clever move. Our biggest threat next season was never going to be the big clubs spending loads of money, they've already been doing that.

 

The easiest way to turn us over is to rip what we've built apart. Let's be fair, if we kept this squad together and added to it there's no reason we couldn't be a threat again next season.

 

I would take issue with a couple of things though. Vardy is good enough to play for any Premier League side as far as I'm concerned and at £20m it's a snip. I think he suits Arsenal more than people are making out - they are at their best when hitting teams on the break, much like us, because they're so good at exploiting space. Pacey players are necessary for Arsenal. Playing through defences who sit deep is not their strength at all. But they get sucked into that because they believe it's the 'right' way to play and because teams will often happily sit back and take a point against them.

 

We are good defensively but we are not 'defensive'. No more than Arsenal anyway. The main difference between ourselves and Arsenal is the possession stats. Whilst we're happy to sit back and not have the ball, Arsenal are happy to hold possession and have the ball. But during those passages of play, both teams are just waiting for the mistake to exploit. We wait for teams to make a mistake so we can nick the ball. Then we attack. Arsenal wait for someone to be out of position so a player can receive the ball in space. Then they attack.

 

This goes back to my argument that the possession game is not the way forward in England. Teams are too good defensively now. The way to win is to not let defences get settled and to go for the jugular. Maybe Arsene has realised this - and Vardy is part of restructuring and a plan A, or at least a plan B, which is well overdue?

[Shelf Side Spurs]

Ok now this isn't a conspiracy theory, more just an eye opening into what Arsene gets if he were to successfully sign Jamie Vardy. Now we aware of the stick Arsene has received this season for bottling it again in the title run this year, more so I think not because they lost the title to Chelsea or Man City or United or even Liverpool no they bottled it in massive style against us, last seasons relegation scraping Leicester City. 

 

Now Wenger has always been well respected in football for his shrewd purchases and eye for upcoming talent, he's always been the manager who could compete with the big teams without always spending as much as the other guys, now one of the things that has surprised me with this whole Jamie Vardy transfer saga is how much Arsenal fans are against signing him. So far from what I have seen from Arsenal fans no one feels Vardy will be a good investment for them, many voicing their options that he wouldn't fit in well with their possession passing style of football. What has also has surprised me is the lack of respect that has been given to Vardy from within the Arsenal camp within the last few days in the media, firstly Giroud speaking publicly about Vardys desire to join them and then today Wenger stating that he doesn't feel Vardy have enough international experience to start for England in the World Cup? Hang on wasn't this the same guy who suggested to Sven Goran Eriksson 10 years ago that a 17 year old Theo Walcott should be selected for England in the World Cup? 

 

All this got me thinking what if we have another year better than Arsenal next season? How would the Arsenal fans and media react to us spending such little money in comparison to the big clubs and succeeding again? What must Arsene do this year for them to be better than us next year? We know he doesn't believe in defensive football, so how does he compete with arguably the greatest defensive, counter attacking team we have ever seen in the Premier League?

 

So it makes me think what if Jamie Vardy does turn out to be a flop at Arsenal? What would be the worst case scenario for them? Well for £20 million he may end up with a player whom he can resell again in a years time for £12 million? But most importantly for Wenger he knows he has taken away the biggest catalyst in Leicester's direct style of football, as well as getting the ball rolling potentially for other key players to leave. Its a win/win scenario for Wenger, either he gets a good signing or if he doesn't he's dismantled the team currently threating his legacy. Personally I think Leicester at the moment are Arsene's biggest threat in 20 years at Arsenal, he cannot afford to have another season behind us again. If he does his reputation at the club will be in tatters and he's already expecting heavy competition next season from Klopp, Mourinho, Guardiola and pochettino.

 

Is coming 2nd/3rd or 4th as unacceptable to Man United, Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea as unacceptable as it is to coming runners up to us? Teams that frequently spend £100+ million plus on new players in the transfer windows whilst Arsenal shy away from that type of business? For years Wenger being playing the sensible spending card making it look like he was doing a great job. Would Arsenal fans accept another season behind us in the title race? I don't think so and I think Wenger knows it too. 

Interesting point of view and debate but I think you've over elaborated. Arsenal need a clinical striker and have done ever since firstly Ian Wright, then Thierry Henry left....by any reckoning Vardy is clinical, Giroud isn't although he also has Welbeck. Secondly at £20m and £120k a week Vardy is a steal in the current financial climate, whether he scores 20+ goals next season or 15...it's still great value in today's striker market and a sum Arsenal could afford easily.

 

I think if Vardy leaves however, it might open the door to the others doing the same...especially Kante and Mahrez and that would be a great shame. If the famous three can shine again next season and in the Champions league, which I think they might, then Leicester would be well advised to pay them all around £80k a week now and offer 4 year deals...I think they would probably stay. Hope so anyway....otherwise with those three gone and maybe one or two others, the team is severely weakened for next season, both in the Premier League and Europe.

[Sharpe's Foxes]

I think it's pretty simple to see that raiding a competitor of their best players is the best way to take them out of contention for a top 4 spot.  If Arsenal or Totenham could have gone back again to January, they would have 100% raided Leicester of Vardy, Mahrez or Kante even if they had to overspend and sit them because it would have ensure that Leicester was no longer a threat and that they could have one the league which face it for those two teams would be worth any price.

 

As far as hidden agenda, the more nefarious agenda would be the frenchman Wegner making this raid on behalf of France on Vardy in order to create problems and stress with England for the Euro.  Timing wise that is exactly what it has done.

[Tielemans63]

I think he genuinely wants him, I think they made the bid when they did (just prior to the Euros) in a bid to force a relatively quick decision. There probably is an element of wanting to weaken us but even for a club as rich as Arsenal 20m is a lot to pay just to screw another side. I think Arsenal really need a player like Vardy, hungry and nasty. They have too many complacent, fair weather footballers. None of their current side can match his desire. They would be champions otherwise.

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[Fatbloke]

We must not underestimate just how much we hissed off the "big boys" by winning the title !!

[Captain...]

I've been thinking the same, worse case scenario for Wenger, if he signs Vardy is an impact sub/plan b and destabilise the champions. It will also get fans off his back over not spending, nobody can deny £20 mil for the league's top scorer is good value.

[Jace]

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this is Wengers main reason for trying to sign him, but I do think it certainly gives him some very good extra incentive to offer over the odds in wages to get him.

[Sharpe's Foxes]

I've been thinking the same, worse case scenario for Wenger, if he signs Vardy is an impact sub/plan b and destabilise the champions. It will also get fans off his back over not spending, nobody can deny £20 mil for the league's top scorer is good value.

Plus he's an English player and the top clubs always try to keep a couple. With Walcott and Wiltshire looking like they are gone I guess they would only have Welbeck but Welbeck may be for for all of next season with is knee injury.

[LCFC247]

Is there a hidden agenda behind Arsene Wenger wanting to sign Jamie Vardy?

 

No.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Wenger will not be a Arsenal for the length of Vardys contract.

 

I surprised the move has been sanctioned.

 

As much as we love him (at the mo) its obvious his style will dictate that of the whole team. A style in many quarters that we have been lambasted for.

 

++ yes there will be a degree of them having him so we/others  won't

[Viva]

Arsene Wenger is not the type of manager to spend the best part of a £50m package on a player that he doesn't really want.

He would not be able to offload him in a years time either due to his wages.

[Foxxed]

I'm pretty much down with your theory Jace.

Teams are also beaten off the pitch. Plus, he may bag Mahrez.

We need to be bigger than one player, whether this is correct or not, anyhow.

[Jace]

Arsene Wenger is not the type of manager to spend the best part of a £50m package on a player that he doesn't really want.

He would not be able to offload him in a years time either due to his wages.

 

 

Never said he doesn't want him

[Foxxed]

Not sure if this my just my bored imagination, but...

What if Arsenal hired Wrigglesworth earlier this year, not because they thought he was the mastermind behind the scouting, but because they know he'd have inside information.

Then, through him, they find a way to turn Vardy's head. They spread rumours he's just about signed. But actually allow it to be dragged out over months and months, and never actually sign him.

Meanwhile, lcfc players--and I'm thinking Mahrez here among others--will be much more likely to consider a move when they think one of the pillars of the team is high-tailing it out of there.

So Wenger's using Vardy to spread uncertainty and therefore better ply out Mahrez and others, and to destabilise one of next year's opponents.

[foxychik]

Maybe Wenger there's some twisted logic going on in Wengers head

Leicester won the league

The world loves Raneri

I want to be loved

What has he got that I've not ?

Vardy Mahrez Kante

If I could own them

Then I could win the league

I would be as popular as Raneri!

This is how I keep my job

[purpleronnie]

People seem to be missing the obvious reason.

 

He's scared his beloved France will lose to England in the Euro's so he's trying to distract Englands best striker to ruin England's chances.

 

He needn't have bothered though we already have Woy to do that.