Brexit Poll

[Mark_w]

Where was the "I voted remain but wish I had voted leave" option? Pretty sure they'll be some of them as well.

 

In this poll? It's the one no one has voted for.

[Cheese]

I voted leave and am happy with my decision.

[Finnaldo]

Second option, wouldn't say I'm happy to be leaving due to the market uncertainty (Had a job interview last Monday and haven't heard back yet, hope it's still going!) but now's the time to get together and move forward. Get a grip and stop going around 'Kill Farage' plaques, yes hes a cvnt but so be it. We need each other to oust the senseless racism from the hard right Brexit minority and look united to get a better deal from the EU, a divided country is something the EU loves to prey on.  

[Thracian]

I voted to leave but don't think that we will get the exit I want - I can see us still ending up in the single market with free movement of people, possibly with the sort of small reforms Cameron got for his orginal piece of prestidigitation.

 

Although it would still be far better than the previous situation, British courts would still have jurisdiction over European ones, we wouldn't be obliged to follow any European law and we'd have for certainy we are out of the Eurozone, potential bailouts and any sort of ever closer union.

 

P.S - Amazed 15% of people would happily override the biggest mandate in British history, these people aren't fit to live in a democratic nation.

 

 

 

I suspect the education secretary would even move the goalposts for a second referendum if she got elected as PM and had the chance to add 16/17 year olds to the voting mix. I'd imagine, if beaten, she'd want increasingly more referendums until she included children in the womb.

 

Pity we didn't have such determined politicians when we were conceding so much to the stealthy machinations of the EU.

[Bettsj2]

I voted to leave thinking that if the leave vote won by a narrow margin, it probably wouldnt happen but, would create a situation where a better version of the EU arises and also, politics in this country finally recognises and represents all and not just select few.

Both remain and leave have really shown a side to society that is shameful. I was always under the impression that the country was firmly in the center of political persuasion. This campaign has shown that the far left and the far right have more support than is at all comfortable.

[Captain...]

You can't seriously judge people's regret on the basis of 4 days Nothing really has happened, we had a sharp drop in the pound that's now recovering, the FTSE 100 dropped but has now clawed back to a level where it is actually above the 5 years average. Where was the "I voted remain but wish I had voted leave" option? Pretty sure they'll be some of them as well. Where is that law? I've never seen it.

 

Why not? People are regretting their vote to leave because they have voted for the wrong reason, there are plenty of reports of people admitting they only voted leave because they didn't think we would and they wanted to protests against Cameron. That is not a knee jerk reaction that is people being complete fvck-wits and voting for something they don't want to make a point and it all going horribly wrong, plenty of others who voted out but now regret it as they hadn't thought it all through. There are enough of those reports out there, and currently 5% of people on here, that make me think that the result of the referendum could be wrong. If it was repeated right now we could get a different result. It is not sour grapes, when we first got the result I was fairly OK with it, but so many people have admitted they would change their vote to remain there is enough reason to doubt that the result is the true will of the people.  I would rather make sure before we make irreversible changes.

 

Actually there is no law I misunderstood something that I was told, there was a petition to put it into law before the referendum, after the referendum it has gained a lot more support.

 

We have to wait years before we know what the consequences are from this, to say these things werent made clear is absolitely ridiculous, the chancellor threatened a 30billion punishment budget that was all over the news for a day, barely a day went by when leavers were told that they wee voting to break up the UK, are we going to re run every election in the future as we'll just claim the people didn't know what they are voting for?

 

We will have to wait months, even years before we even trigger the exit, long term it could be a great success or a massive failure, short term it will lead to huge amounts of uncertainty. Osbourne's budget threat was dismissed as scaremongering and probably irrelevant as he probably won't by CoE under the new regime, the instant devaluing of the pound and the FTSE was predicted but not reported in the same way.

 

Scotland may go, I hate to break it you but they nearly went a couple of years ago while we were still in the EU, the politically differences are vast, if anything they could be more likely to stay with us OUTSIDE the EU now, as joining the Euro is going to be a tough sell, not to mention the sort of tax rises or austerity the SNP will have to implement to get themsleves into a financial position to be allowed to join, there is a reason why the SNP are now down on their knees begging to sneak in through the back door by being allowed to remain rather than go through the application process.

 

If you want to reverse the result just do it, The European Union pushed through the Lisbon treaty in France and Holland despite the public voting against it, they had a bit more creativity in Ireland with the same result but don't pledge armageddon for months, try and convince everyone it's a big mistake and then hold a referendum and then label it as some sort of triumph for democracy. Because then the people in power do deserve direct action from the people, and if you think the resentment from the anti-EU populace (all 17.5 million of) was bad before just wait until you see it after pulling this sort of banana republic style coup off.

You'll have a UKIP majority government next time around as well, just think about that. Seriously, get a grip of yourselves, democracy has spoken, with the biggest turnout of the public for nearly 30 years.

 

It actually wouldn't surprise me if one of the PM candidates ran on a ticket of a second referendum or allowing a free vote in the commons, I also wouldn't be surprised if it didn't pass through the commons, I got the impression that most of the MPs campaigning to leave were just positioning themselves politically rather than actually believed in their stance. There is also the possibility that the Queen will see the threat to her Kingdom and not give her consent. Although that is very unlikely.

[bovril]

I voted In, but for what it's worth I don't think either result would have made much difference to the massive divisions in society that have come to the surface after the shit-stirring of the campaign. Almost everyone I know who voted, in or out, has been abused either face-to-face or on social media. I actually found myself defending Brexiters over beers last night from the subtle implication that they were all motivated by xenophobia. The Scots should be careful of painting themselves as some kind of beacon of hope and tolerance as Glasgow (as much as I love the city) is potentially one of the most toxic cities in Europe, and could get very nasty if the Scots don't get what they want. There's a lot of Brit-rage about at the moment, maybe it was always there we just kept a lid on it with good old fashioned politeness and stiff upper lip.

 

Ironically, the only people who have taken the result with humour and good-grace are friends from Eastern Europe living in the UK.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I'm not a Thatcherite, I'm a one-nation Disrealite.

Get up in the morning fags and coffee for breakfast

So that every mouth can be fed

Poor me Disraelites

Get up in the morning, do the Times crossword

Whilst I'm curling out a fresh turd

Poor me Disraelites

Polish and the Czechs them a pack up an' a leave me

Waldek he said, "You seem a bit keen."

Poor me Disraelites

[Guest MattP]

 

Why not? People are regretting their vote to leave because they have voted for the wrong reason, there are plenty of reports of people admitting they only voted leave because they didn't think we would and they wanted to protests against Cameron. That is not a knee jerk reaction that is people being complete fvck-wits and voting for something they don't want to make a point and it all going horribly wrong, plenty of others who voted out but now regret it as they hadn't thought it all through. There are enough of those reports out there, and currently 5% of people on here, that make me think that the result of the referendum could be wrong. If it was repeated right now we could get a different result. It is not sour grapes, when we first got the result I was fairly OK with it, but so many people have admitted they would change their vote to remain there is enough reason to doubt that the result is the true will of the people.  I would rather make sure before we make irreversible changes.

 

Actually there is no law I misunderstood something that I was told, there was a petition to put it into law before the referendum, after the referendum it has gained a lot more support.

 

 

We will have to wait months, even years before we even trigger the exit, long term it could be a great success or a massive failure, short term it will lead to huge amounts of uncertainty. Osbourne's budget threat was dismissed as scaremongering and probably irrelevant as he probably won't by CoE under the new regime, the instant devaluing of the pound and the FTSE was predicted but not reported in the same way.

 

 

It actually wouldn't surprise me if one of the PM candidates ran on a ticket of a second referendum or allowing a free vote in the commons, I also wouldn't be surprised if it didn't pass through the commons, I got the impression that most of the MPs campaigning to leave were just positioning themselves politically rather than actually believed in their stance. There is also the possibility that the Queen will see the threat to her Kingdom and not give her consent. Although that is very unlikely.

 

Firstly the referendum wasn't wrong, it was counted and verified by the electoral commission, if people change their mind afterwards it doesn't means it was wrong. A few people might be regretting the vote, in the MoS they had a poll saying 4% of leavers regretted and 3% of remainers, it's certainly not any basis to re run a referendum on. (Though a sample as small as Foxestalk is ridiculous and you don't know if people are taking the piss)

 

Just because people voted against something you disagree with doesn't mean they didn't understand this, I really don't know how that can be explained any clearer, even if you do that we have protest votes all the time, the Lib Dems became a serious party because of it, should we have reheld every by-elcetion they won in the 80's?

 

Someone can run on a pro-EU ticket if they want, not invoke article 50 and you'll see public anger on a scale like never before, then next election the 51% (or even 40% if so many changed their mind) will make sure UKIP win a majority and we'll invoke article 50 anyway, if you really want to go the long way round we can do it that way.

 

People on the remain side need to have some dignity, you ran a campaign of fear and threats, you didn't have anything positive to put forward about the EU, it was so bad the people of Britain thought a leap in the dark was a better option. Get over it, it's pathetic.

[Thracian]

My sister who was a huge fan of Cameron went to the polls voting remain but decided when she got there to vote leave and now regrets it. 

 

Referendums...nah thanks.

 

 

If you buy choose to buy certain shares and they go down you don't get your money back.

 

And will we suddenly get a second, third, fourth referendum where people don't change their minds depending on what's said by this party with their vested interests or that?

 

People complain about the "fronting" of the Remain case but there's been so much bullshit spouted by politicians and their coerced allies on both sides its been impossible to sift out the truth from any of it.

 

So who does the fronting next time? And how would every Leave voter feel in the event of their democratic vote being overturned?

 

It would make a total nonsense of democracy.

 

I didn't want "Remain" to win but at least one of my sons did and if they'd have won I'd have accepted it with good grace. Not wanted to contrive another vote and seek any way possible to rig the outcome.

 

The Remainers' constant carping makes me sick. I suppose if they were playing golf they'd only want the sunny weather tee times.      

[The Railway Man]

This is getting a little silly now, the same people shouting at leavers for not potentially taking defeat with good grace and now doing even worse and even threatening to try and get the result overturned.

 

Vote Leave won the referendum, are we just going to keep having them forever back and forth? Surely if remain won the next one we would have to have a third as well? Can't make a decision at 1-1, of course we won't, Britain is leaving the European Union, it's happening and that's it.

[leicsmac]

Firstly the referendum wasn't wrong, it was counted and verified by the electoral commission, if people change their mind afterwards it doesn't means it was wrong. A few people might be regretting the vote, in the MoS they had a poll saying 4% of leavers regretted and 3% of remainers, it's certainly not any basis to re run a referendum on. (Though a sample as small as Foxestalk is ridiculous and you don't know if people are taking the piss)

 

Just because people voted against something you disagree with doesn't mean they didn't understand this, I really don't know how that can be explained any clearer, even if you do that we have protest votes all the time, the Lib Dems became a serious party because of it, should we have reheld every by-elcetion they won in the 80's?

 

Someone can run on a pro-EU ticket if they want, not invoke article 50 and you'll see public anger on a scale like never before, then next election the 51% (or even 40% if so many changed their mind) will make sure UKIP win a majority and we'll invoke article 50 anyway, if you really want to go the long way round we can do it that way.

 

People on the remain side need to have some dignity, you ran a campaign of fear and threats, you didn't have anything positive to put forward about the EU, it was so bad the people of Britain thought a leap in the dark was a better option. Get over it, it's pathetic.

 

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that frustration has crept in here a bit Matt, because I know you're smart enough to know that telling Remainers to "get over it" is horrendously counterproductive and won't help, as has been stated ad infinitum on here already.

[Kilworthfox]

I voted to leave.

 

I am delighted that we are going to leave the E.U.

 

I object to the notion that I am some how not as enlightened as anyone who voted Remain.

 

There was no chance that the E.U would reform under the leadership of politicians who see 1 vision, their own, not a vision that has any consideration to British needs.

 

I reject the need to split the votes into demographics, it doesn't mater, a vote is worth as much as the next one. Mine is worth what yours is. If anyone feels slighted by the vote, well doing something positive about it, put yourself into a position where you can make a positive contribution, don't just whinge after the event, how does that effect anything?

 

The U.K is now in a position where we can put ourselves into a greater position of strength, weather you believe this or not, it isn't really important, it will happen. The markets are already recovering, all the negativity before the vote, was massively overblown to scare you into believing that going it alone was far too risky and stay as we are will be best.

 

There is a lot of talk about trade agreements, it's all nonsense, there will be a deal done between the E.U & the U.K, tariffs or not, the tariff will not be more than 1%, it is illogical to believe that a positive deal will not be done for the U.K seeing as every £1 spent buying things from Europe, Europe spends £10 from the U.K. It is in their interests to get this deal done asap, not ours which is another reason why we have a delay, a UK delay to start negotiations!

 

Workers rights will still be in place after we leave the EU, our country is a beacon of democracy, this is not North Korea!

 

The media is covering the result in a negative way in my opinion, I am feeling marginalised even though I voted and I am in the majority of opinion.

 

As British citizens, we have democracy, a vote, you can disagree with anything I have written, but I'm very confident in our future, I'm delighted that we are where we are, if I had any money I'd have made a few quid on the markets, but sadly I'm just to young to have any real money.

[Guest MattP]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that frustration has crept in here a bit Matt, because I know you're smart enough to know that telling Remainers to "get over it" is horrendously counterproductive and won't help, as has been stated ad infinitum on here already.

 

We have people here trying to rescind the democracy our nation and modern civilisation is supposed to be built on and the first thing you do is have a go at me for telling people to get over it?

 

Those doing this need to think deeply and tread very carefully, take democracy away from the people and you really, really won't like the result of it. It could get extremely nasty and if it did the blame would land firmly at the feet of the people responsible for removing it.

[Captain...]

Firstly the referendum wasn't wrong, it was counted and verified by the electoral commission, if people change their mind afterwards it doesn't means it was wrong. A few people might be regretting the vote, in the MoS they had a poll saying 4% of leavers regretted and 3% of remainers, it's certainly not any basis to re run a referendum on. (Though a sample as small as Foxestalk is ridiculous and you don't know if people are taking the piss)

 

Just because people voted against something you disagree with doesn't mean they didn't understand this, I really don't know how that can be explained any clearer, even if you do that we have protest votes all the time, the Lib Dems became a serious party because of it, should we have reheld every by-elcetion they won in the 80's?

 

Someone can run on a pro-EU ticket if they want, not invoke article 50 and you'll see public anger on a scale like never before, then next election the 51% (or even 40% if so many changed their mind) will make sure UKIP win a majority and we'll invoke article 50 anyway, if you really want to go the long way round we can do it that way.

 

People on the remain side need to have some dignity, you ran a campaign of fear and threats, you didn't have anything positive to put forward about the EU, it was so bad the people of Britain thought a leap in the dark was a better option. Get over it, it's pathetic.

 

I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the referendum counting system.

 

Simplify it to 5 mates trying to decide which pub to go to, 3 say the Red Lion 2 say the King's Head, then one of the ones who said the Red Lion says he only said it for a joke and actually wants to go to the King's Head. Where do you go? First you punch your mate for being a dick, but you go to the King's head because 3 people want to go there.

 

Or 3 people say Red Lion but have never been there before and they always go to the King's Head, then as they get there they realise it is full of pricks and so one changes his mind before going in, so you end up going to the King's Head again with it's warm beer and ropey bar maids, but you know what you're getting.

 

Now I know that it is an extremely simplified view, but that is what it feels like. I could accept a leave result if it wasn't so close and there hadn't been so many people on the Friday saying they wish they could change their vote to Remain. It wasn't just one person there were lots of stories popping up everywhere that is what has frustrated and angered so many people and calls into question the result.

 

Democracy is not about making one vote and sticking to the results regardless it is about giving everyone an equal voice, it is frustrating that those choosing to misuse their voice and "protest vote" have potentially cost themselves and millions of other people something they truly value.

 

I would prefer that Leave had won with a landslide and we could just get on with it, but we can't because it was so close and so many people are openly wanting to change their vote. This is not an election, you get 5 years to change your mind, this is irreversible, I would want to be sure before we go ahead, especially as we are almost definitely not going to give all the 17 million Brexiteers what they want.

[Guest MattP]

Yes that is far too simplistic to compare. Despite this result being "close" it was actually by nearly 1.5million votes, it wasn't that close, just when you have a turnout as large as that the percentages are going to look close whatever.

 

If you don't want to accept the result you don't have too, UKIP do it quite a lot when they are decided on postal votes etc but it's absolutely essential our elected parliament accepts it, as I said to Mac, roughshod over liberty and you'll deal with consequences far worse.

 

I remember joking some people would demand another one if we voted to leave, I should have known better.

 

What % result of leave would you need to accept the result and what % would need to vote remain for us not to have a third one?

[Kilworthfox]

I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the referendum counting system.

 

Simplify it to 5 mates trying to decide which pub to go to, 3 say the Red Lion 2 say the King's Head, then one of the ones who said the Red Lion says he only said it for a joke and actually wants to go to the King's Head. Where do you go? First you punch your mate for being a dick, but you go to the King's head because 3 people want to go there.

 

Or 3 people say Red Lion but have never been there before and they always go to the King's Head, then as they get there they realise it is full of pricks and so one changes his mind before going in, so you end up going to the King's Head again with it's warm beer and ropey bar maids, but you know what you're getting.

 

Now I know that it is an extremely simplified view, but that is what it feels like. I could accept a leave result if it wasn't so close and there hadn't been so many people on the Friday saying they wish they could change their vote to Remain. It wasn't just one person there were lots of stories popping up everywhere that is what has frustrated and angered so many people and calls into question the result.

 

Democracy is not about making one vote and sticking to the results regardless it is about giving everyone an equal voice, it is frustrating that those choosing to misuse their voice and "protest vote" have potentially cost themselves and millions of other people something they truly value.

 

I would prefer that Leave had won with a landslide and we could just get on with it, but we can't because it was so close and so many people are openly wanting to change their vote. This is not an election, you get 5 years to change your mind, this is irreversible, I would want to be sure before we go ahead, especially as we are almost definitely not going to give all the 17 million Brexiteers what they want.

 

1.25 Million people more voted to leave than remain. What ever anyone says, democracy has been served, the UK will leave.

[leicsmac]

We have people here trying to rescind the democracy our nation and modern civilisation is supposed to be built on and the first thing you do is have a go at me for telling people to get over it?

 

Those doing this need to think deeply and tread very carefully, take democracy away from the people and you really, really won't like the result of it. It could get extremely nasty and if it did the blame would land firmly at the feet of the people responsible for removing it.

 

The people who are trying to rescind the vote are wrong. The people who are telling them to get in line and just accept the result and contribute/help with the vast changes it will bring are also wrong.

 

And both of those people see the other, the mud starts flying and it doesn't stop.

 

There's a difference between passive non-acceptance and active obstructionism, which seems to have been forgotten between the poisonous "Us and Them" divide that has sprung up.

[Captain...]

I voted to leave.

 

I am delighted that we are going to leave the E.U.

 

I object to the notion that I am some how not as enlightened as anyone who voted Remain.

 

 

Nobody is saying that on here (at least not me), and I wasn't trying to cause arguments, just gauge opinion. Those that want to leave have every right to that opinion, my only question is how many people who voted leave would change it, and how many who voted leave don't actually think they will get what they want. There is every chance we will get the opportunity to join EFTA on the same terms as Norway. If we accept that it will make some people who voted to leave happy and some people unhappy. There is every chance we will end up with worse trade deals with the EU than what we have now but some people will be happy with that as it means we can control our borders others won't be.

 

The whole debate has lacked any alternative to the EU, take it back to the pub analogy, 2 vote to go to the King's Head 3 vote not to go to the King's head, so you don't go to the King's Head but where do you go, one of the 3 wants to go to a strip club, the other wants to go to a sports  bar while another wants to go to a old man pub with nice real ales. They would collectively be better off at the King's Head, but not individually.

 

It is not that any one person has the wrong opinion, it is that there are many reasons to not want to be in the EU, but leaving the EU doesn't actually guarantee any change of any of them.

 

One thing I will disagree with is that the EU need us more than we need them, any sort of trade tariff above what the EU has between it's member states will harm us, we buy more than we sell to the EU. We can will still be able to buy and sell from them but the trade tariffs will increase costs, which means that we all of the EU suppliers will have a competitive advantage over UK suppliers, because it will cost less. If France currently buys something from the UK because it is cheaper than Germany but of equal quality, then the introduction of any tariffs, not to mention the added hassle and cost of customs and border controls for exporting from the UK could make the German competitor cheaper. 

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Voted to leave, and have no regrets at all. I have given my reasons elsewhere.

 

A truly magnificent result, and so proud to be British. Well done to those who voted out. 

[Captain...]

Yes that is far too simplistic to compare. Despite this result being "close" it was actually by nearly 1.5million votes, it wasn't that close, just when you have a turnout as large as that the percentages are going to look close whatever.

 

If you don't want to accept the result you don't have too, UKIP do it quite a lot when they are decided on postal votes etc but it's absolutely essential our elected parliament accepts it, as I said to Mac, roughshod over liberty and you'll deal with consequences far worse.

 

I remember joking some people would demand another one if we voted to leave, I should have known better.

 

What % result of leave would you need to accept the result and what % would need to vote remain for us not to have a third one?

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-bregret-leave-petition-second-remain-latest-will-we-leave-a7105116.html

 

A Survation poll estimates over 1 million people would change their vote from Leave to Remain which would swing it, but then there are the people that would switch the other way an estimated 696,000 so it would make it closer but not actually change the result, if those figures are accurate.

 

I think 55% either way would have made it clear, I would support a second referendum because so many people seem to have changed their mind, I would also support a second referendum when we actually have some sort of exit strategy in place, some clear idea of what is going to happen to the EU migrants, what is going to happen with the trade deals and the movement of godds and the freedom of movement, what sort of controls we will have on our border, what will happen to the thousands of British citizens living in the EU, what will happen to Scotland and NI.

[Alf Bentley]

The whole debate has lacked any alternative to the EU, take it back to the pub analogy, 2 vote to go to the King's Head 3 vote not to go to the King's head, so you don't go to the King's Head but where do you go, one of the 3 wants to go to a strip club, the other wants to go to a sports  bar while another wants to go to a old man pub with nice real ales. They would collectively be better off at the King's Head, but not individually.

 

 

 

Yep, I take your point. They'd have all definitely been better off staying at the King's Head and having a pint with Ken. 

[Captain...]

Yep, I take your point. They'd have all definitely been better off staying at the King's Head and having a pint with Ken. 

 

It does sound like a Ken analogy, but I stand by it any sort of in or out option without offering an alternative will get a huge amount of support for the negative option because people all want different things and people are all hoping for different things by leaving the EU.

[Kilworthfox]

Nobody is saying that on here (at least not me), and I wasn't trying to cause arguments, just gauge opinion. Those that want to leave have every right to that opinion, my only question is how many people who voted leave would change it, and how many who voted leave don't actually think they will get what they want. There is every chance we will get the opportunity to join EFTA on the same terms as Norway. If we accept that it will make some people who voted to leave happy and some people unhappy. There is every chance we will end up with worse trade deals with the EU than what we have now but some people will be happy with that as it means we can control our borders others won't be.

 

The whole debate has lacked any alternative to the EU, take it back to the pub analogy, 2 vote to go to the King's Head 3 vote not to go to the King's head, so you don't go to the King's Head but where do you go, one of the 3 wants to go to a strip club, the other wants to go to a sports  bar while another wants to go to a old man pub with nice real ales. They would collectively be better off at the King's Head, but not individually.

 

It is not that any one person has the wrong opinion, it is that there are many reasons to not want to be in the EU, but leaving the EU doesn't actually guarantee any change of any of them.

 

One thing I will disagree with is that the EU need us more than we need them, any sort of trade tariff above what the EU has between it's member states will harm us, we buy more than we sell to the EU. We can will still be able to buy and sell from them but the trade tariffs will increase costs, which means that we all of the EU suppliers will have a competitive advantage over UK suppliers, because it will cost less. If France currently buys something from the UK because it is cheaper than Germany but of equal quality, then the introduction of any tariffs, not to mention the added hassle and cost of customs and border controls for exporting from the UK could make the German competitor cheaper. 

 

I think that you are not thinking to the future, in fact from what you have written your actually looking to the future, by looking towards the past.

 

For example: If France sells us something, and any trade deal gets done means that we have to pay more to use your example. Well that's fine, we are now in a Global market, we can look outside the 27 states without seeking their permission.

 

In fact we can look to all of the other countries of the world, including Europe.

 

I appreciate, that France can (always have been able too) now buy (insert 1 of 27 of EU member states) products instead of UK ones, however I imagine that most of our exports into the EU are actually highly advanced products, not raw materials or simple products that can be obtained in less developed markets.

 

For example if highly developed countries want to buy military grade laser equipment, they are likely to remain buying British, due to the quality, not Latvian ones. I may be wrong...

 

If we want to sell our milk or potatoes, we may struggle, I appreciate, but I'd much rather our major supermarkets supported our farmers by buying their products rather than supposedly cheaper alternatives from Europe. Maybe a silly example is I always buy British meat, never Danish bacon for example, because for me a national economy & quality issue.

[Guest MattP]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-bregret-leave-petition-second-remain-latest-will-we-leave-a7105116.html

 

A Survation poll estimates over 1 million people would change their vote from Leave to Remain which would swing it, but then there are the people that would switch the other way an estimated 696,000 so it would make it closer but not actually change the result, if those figures are accurate.

 

I think 55% either way would have made it clear, I would support a second referendum because so many people seem to have changed their mind, I would also support a second referendum when we actually have some sort of exit strategy in place, some clear idea of what is going to happen to the EU migrants, what is going to happen with the trade deals and the movement of godds and the freedom of movement, what sort of controls we will have on our border, what will happen to the thousands of British citizens living in the EU, what will happen to Scotland and NI.

 

So there is actually no evidence at all that the result would change on a second referendum then? Glad we have cleared that up, let alone actually have anything concrete that the wrong result has been reached.

 

55% either way? You could run 100 referendums and you aren't going to get that unless turnout drops to something like 40% - current level you'll need 18.7 million one side v 15.3 the other side, simply not going to happen. You might think you have a convincing argument but a swing of 4.5 million?

 

I would absolutely love all the answers to the questions you have asked at the bottom but the simple fact is we wouldn't know, we can't exactly get Scotland to have a referendum can we to see if they will go if we leave the EU?