The Guvnor Posted 10 July 2016 Posted 10 July 2016 There's something fundamentally wrong when 150k of the country get to elect the next prime minister. There perhaps should be a General Election anytime a prime minister steps down. Maybe, however DC would probably not have stood down if that was the case.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Andrea Leadsom expected to quit Conservative leadership bid, as source close to her tells BBC "abuse too great"
Webbo Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Andrea Leadsom expected to quit Conservative leadership bid, as source close to her tells BBC "abuse too great" Just seen that. We could have a new PM this week.
Guest MattP Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Not surprised after the way she has been treated, this weekend was only the start as well.
Thracian Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Politicians - just a den of backstabbers, snitches and self-servers really. But the outcome seemed inevitable. Quite expecting some sort of fudge on Brexit now - and an increasingly dangerous world for us and for Europe generally for all that I hope I'm wrong and that "Maggie" May comes up trumps. Can't argue with her idea of having consumer and employee representation on boards.
SMX11 Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Politicians - just a den of backstabbers, snitches and self-servers really. But the outcome seemed inevitable. Quite expecting some sort of fudge on Brexit now, no great change for the better - and an increasingly dangerous world for us and for Europe generally. We can only hope that a new party emerges/evolves, the main parties have sealed their fates.
Thracian Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 We can only hope that a new party emerges/evolves, the main parties have sealed their fates. I'd imagine Leadsom's been offered a tasty sweetener.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Politicians - just a den of backstabbers, snitches and self-servers really. But the outcome seemed inevitable. Quite expecting some sort of fudge on Brexit now, no great change for the better - and an increasingly dangerous world for us and for Europe generally for all that I hope I'm wrong and that "Maggie" May comes up trumps. Can't argue with her idea of having consumer and employee representation on boards. I thought pesimisum was banned? This is democracy in action, live with it!
Thracian Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Interesting tweet today: "Sounds like Theresa May has just parked her tanks on Ed Miliband's lawn!" May's great opportunity is to take the Conservative Party much closer to the working people and to provenly demonstrate that they can be a rewarded part of our future prosperity. It's the kind of policy that's been needed for years - even to the point of a written or recommended framework for corporate employment (such as is already operated by a close friend of mine). Perhaps it also signals a greater commitment to manufacturing, but I'm thinking aloud here!.
Thracian Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 I thought pesimisum was banned? This is democracy in action, live with it! I'm guarded more than pessimistic. It's an incredible opportunity for May and I hope she takes it and puts the "Great" back in Britain while she's doing it. Reading through a few of her quotes the first thing that impresses is her idea of governing for the country as a whole and not forgetting that the people of places like Sunderland and Sheffield matter just as much as those in London.
Jon the Hat Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 snap election anyone? Would just cause more chaos. I can see once we have a proposal on our EU exit strategy that it might be reasonable, but now we have no credible alternative to Theresa, she needs to just get on with it.
Alf Bentley Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Blimey, after Umunna, now Leadsom.... I know politicians get a slating in the media to varying degrees and at various times, but they should know that's part of a top job in politics, surely? Criticism of Leadsom over her "motherhood" comments and scrutiny of her CV seems reasonable to me, even if 1 or 2 papers may have stuck the boot in. Has any paper yet printed a photo of her looking hideous eating a bacon sarnie or accused her father of "hating Britain"? Even if criticism wasn't justified, she needs a thicker skin than that to be PM. Whoever is PM will be overseeing massively important negotiations with the EU, and will have to deal with people like Putin & Trump or Clinton. If a few harsh media reports are too much for her to handle, frankly she obviously wasn't up to the job in the first place. So, it's good if she's realised that now. There seems to be some speculation that the Tories might need to find a second candidate to have a contest, though? If so, comeback for Gove?!
Guest MattP Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Leadsom's statement congratulated Theresa May so I don't think there is any chance of a leadership contest.
ramboacdc Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Would just cause more chaos. I can see once we have a proposal on our EU exit strategy that it might be reasonable, but now we have no credible alternative to Theresa, she needs to just get on with it. Won't happen i see that point. but with labour in disarray and at war with eachother. tories could, in theory, take a landslide majority. but with the fixed parliament act there would have to be a 2/3rd majority vote of tory MP's. she has that in backing her leadership so possible.
Guest MattP Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 No chance of a GE anyway, you need 2/3 of the house voting for it. Tories won't and even Labour won't at the minute with 80% of their MP's telling us their leader is incapable of being Prime Minister.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 i see that point. but with labour in disarray and at war with eachother. tories could, in theory, take a landslide majority. but with the fixed parliament act there would have to be a 2/3rd majority vote of tory MP's. she has that in backing her leadership so possible. I thought it was 2/3 of Parilment... and part of me thinks Labour would reject at this present time. Your Brexit side of the Tory party would reject too under the concern the referendum could be effectively overturned.
Guest Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 I'd imagine Leadsom's been offered a tasty sweetener. Where's singhy when he's needed?
Guest Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 snap election anyone? Can't see it. she'll want to be PM for the retirement fund money.
Thracian Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Gove seems to accept the situation. Michael Gove and @BorisJohnson call for quick handover to @TheresaMay2016 as PM#ToryLeadership http:// bbc.in/264XBZu So the way looks clear for May and, given that Leadsom, so categorically snookered her own credibility to lead the country i'm quite relieved. Indeed, if Leadsom has been offered the "sweetener" I mentioned she should consider herself lucky. I just hope now that May respects the reasons for the Leave vote and acts in a way that offers a positive response to it while working to mould a better country where no-one is treated like second-rate citizens and where we are completely in charge of who can and can't come to live here and who we can and can't deport if they deserve it. DJ Barry Hammond wondered if there are still any "Leavers" left and I still firmly believe we'll be better for Leaving the EU and remaining independent allies of Europe and supporters of its trading organisation. I think others will see it the same way soon as well. Either that or the EU will need to reform itself rapidly and radically - starting by ridding themselves of Juncker. Where's singhy when he's needed?
leicsmac Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 Was it May that passed the bullshit piece of legislation that would stop me settling down with my American spouse in the UK unless I earned more than the really arbitrary 19k a year and does not consider in any way the earning potential of the spouse (in my case the better half is more qualified with better earning potential than me)?
Guest Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 The newspapers haven't attacked May. Is that because she's who they all want or because they are waiting until she's the PM?
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