davieG Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Conservative leader: Who might succeed David Cameron? David Cameron has said he intends to stand down as Conservative Party leader and prime minister following the UK's decision to leave the EU. His successor as leader will be elected by party members with the result on 9 September. Five Conservative MPs have been confirmed as candidates. Conservative leadership election rulesThe party's 1922 committee, made up of backbenchers, will oversee the contest. A series of ballots will be held as the party's 331 MPs whittle the five contenders down to two, who will then go forward to a vote of the entire Conservative membership. The winner of that vote will become the new Conservative leader and prime minister. This graphic shows how the process unfolds with multiple candidates. The first vote among MPs will take place next Tuesday, in a secret ballot. The candidate with the fewest votes will be eliminated. A further vote will be held on Thursday. If more than two candidates remain in the race voting will take place every Tuesday and Thursday until the field is whittled down to two.Theresa May. One of the longest-serving home secretaries in history, who turns 60 later this year, has long been mentioned as a potential future leader of the party. Mrs May is one of Whitehall's toughest and shrewdest operators. In the fallow years after the Conservatives' 1997 landslide defeat, she famously said the party was referred to by some as the "nasty party". The MP was praised for her unflappable handling of the often problematic Home Office brief - regarded as something of a poisoned chalice - although her wider political appeal has yet to be tested. While coming out for Remain, Mrs May - who revealed in 2013 that she has type 1 diabetes - maintained a relatively low profile during the campaign, meaning that she could potentially appeal to MPs looking around for an "anyone but Boris" candidate. Stephen Crabb Image copyrightPAOne of the rising stars of the Conservative Party, and the first Conservative cabinet minister for generations to sport a beard, the 43-year-old has launched a leadership bid on a joint ticket with Business Secretary Sajid Javid. Launching his campaign, he promised to heal the "bad blood" caused in his party by the referendum. The former Welsh secretary, who was born in Scotland, also spoke of the need to bring the United Kingdom together following the result, and said controlling immigration was "a red line" in Brexit negotiations. Mr Crabb has a back story to which many Tory MPs are attracted. Raised by a single mother on a council estate, the Welsh politician has spoken openly about his family's dependence on benefits and the importance of work, education and his Christian faith in promoting self-reliance and economic independence. After becoming an MP in 2005, Mr Crabb was promoted to the Cabinet in 2014 as Welsh secretary. His profile went up a notch earlier this year when he took over as work and pensions secretary following Iain Duncan Smith's resignation. It remains to be seen whether this opportunity comes too early and whether his support for Britain to remain in the EU will hold him back. Read more: Stephen Crabb profile Liam Fox Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGESThe former defence secretary, 54, has thrown his hat into the ring for a second time. Mr Fox, a former GP, came a close third in the 2005 leadership contest which saw David Cameron emerge as the victor. But his cabinet career was cut short in 2011 following a lobbying row, which led to his resignation. Mr Fox was found to have breached the ministerial code over his working relationship with his friend and self-styled adviser Adam Werrity. He has been a forceful voice for the UK leaving the EU on the backbenches but also for Conservative unity after the poll. BBC assistant political editor Norman Smith said Mr Fox would pitch himself as the Brexit candidate, but not the divisive Brexit candidate - and contrasts that with Boris Johnson, whom he would argue would be divisive because of his role in the EU campaign. Michael Gove Image copyrightREUTERSUnlike Mr Johnson, the 48-year-old has gone out of his way in the past to put a limit on his personal ambitions, even going so far as to suggest that he was not equipped to do the job of prime minister. The former Times journalist, who entered Parliament in 2005, has been a close personal friend of David Cameron and George Osborne and was a key figure in the party's modernisation that led to its return to power in 2010. He subsequently became a reforming, if controversial, education secretary and is regarded as one of the party's intellectual heavyweights. The justice secretary's decision to back the Leave side was one of the key turning points in the campaign and although it is said to have strained his relations with Mr Cameron, he is still respected on both the Remain and Leave wings of the party and is likely to be a pivotal figure in the coming months. Andrea Leadsom Image copyrightPAThe 53-year-old former banker and fund manager was one of the stars of the Leave campaign, giving a composed performance as she took her place alongside Boris Johnson in its TV debating team. A former district councillor, she became MP for South Northamptonshire in 2010 and - after serving as a junior Treasury minister and as a member of the Treasury select committee - she was made a junior minister in the energy and climate change department in May last year. Announcing her decision to stand for the party leadership, she tweeted: "Let's make the most of the Brexit opportunities!"
Izzy Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I wouldn't trust Grove to babysit my kids TBH, he comes across as a bit of an odd ball to me. He'd be about as successful as William Hague I reckon. Theresa May doesn't inspire me one bit. Probably the safe option, but it's a no from me. Liam Fox has failed to get nominated in the past and will probably fail again at a guess. I don't know much about Leadsom. Crabb seems O.K. and pretty genuine to me. I like his story and you can't beat a good old 'rags to riches' tale. So I just stuck a tenner on him at 25/1 for a laugh.. P.S. I'm absolutely no expert so just going on personality
Alf Bentley Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 OK, I'm in this time.... Think Gove will win & Want Gove to win I may well be wrong about "Think" he'll win - I don't have many contacts in the Tory party, surprisingly. The consensus seems to be that May is front-runner....but isn't the Tory membership extremely Eurosceptic, and won't they want a pro-Brexit leader? I want him to win because, although he's obviously quite bright, he's also massively arrogant and happy to disregard public opinion - so he's the one most likely to alienate the public and get the Tories kicked out of office!
lifted*fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Gove would be an absolute ****ing disaster. The guy is a total cvnt - complete disregard for the education system and alienated a nation of teachers during his time there. He'll do the same thing to the entire country as PM. Boris will come out now and basically admit everything was built on a bed of lies, stabbing Gove in the back and they both die a bloody, dismembered mess - crying in each other's arms. It'll be beautiful.
Dodgy Bob Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Crabb looks a good bet at around 20/1. Worth a fiver. Needs to come out of his shell, so to speak, but he's fresh and has no major baggage that i'm aware of.
lifted*fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10977858/People-diary-Welsh-Secretary-Stephen-Crabbs-close-shave-with-gay-cure-group.html Apart from wanting to tighten laws regarding abortion and his close ties to a Christian group who believe that being gay is an illness that can be cured AND voting against gay marriage - he comes with very little baggage.
Alf Bentley Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Crabb looks a good bet at around 20/1. Worth a fiver. Needs to come out of his shell, so to speak, but he's fresh and has no major baggage that i'm aware of. If Crabb sticks around, the world is his lobster. Leadership? Nah, I'm predicting Crabb for a sideways move.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Think May will win, want Gove to win as they'll be unelectable under that willy puller.
davieG Posted 30 June 2016 Author Posted 30 June 2016 If Crabb sticks around, the world is his lobster. Leadership? Nah, I'm predicting Crabb for a sideways move. I think the others will form a pincer movement to stop him.
Izzy Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10977858/People-diary-Welsh-Secretary-Stephen-Crabbs-close-shave-with-gay-cure-group.html Apart from wanting to tighten laws regarding abortion and his close ties to a Christian group who believe that being gay is an illness that can be cured AND voting against gay marriage - he comes with very little baggage. I've got close ties to Leicester City FC but it doesn't mean I believe in using clappers of playing Hey Jude before kick off. I can't see anywhere that Crabb has publicly stated he thinks being Gay is an illness (unless you can dig up some dirt on him )
Captain... Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Anyone but Gove or Fox. May as a Remain campaigner would get my vote, it depends if the party want a Remainer to lead them out of Europe and most likely into some EFTA style agreement or a Brexiteer to get them the fvck out. Gove must be unpopular having stabbed BJ in the back, and the rest of the party must know how toxic he is to anyone but a hardline tory. Leadsom actually came across OK in the debates despite being a Brexiteer, but her lack of experience will probably count against her. Same for Crabb, he is a big unknown to me and he should be hoping for a good showing to get his name out there rather than actually become PM, it is going to be a difficult time for anyone to take over, let alone an inexperienced MP such as Crabb or Leadsom.
Thracian Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I've gone for Leadsome. I lived in South Northamptonshire for a good while and they like sane/sensible politics around there. A genuine Brexit with a good delivery and good grasp of what she's talking about. Clearly capable of dealing with complex questions too and with decent real life experience. May may command respect but she doesn't do it for me, Crabb's inexperienced but may merit a chance to get some and no, I wouldn't want Gove, clever as he might be. It seems he'd metaphorically knife his own nearest to satisfy his ambitions and would therefore never be completely trustworthy. Politics really does need some people at the top who don't just have talent but also speak words you can believe. I doubt if any of them tick all the boxes necessary but Leadsome seems as solid as any and I did like the way she presented the Leave case and how she remained unruffled under considerable pressure. .
GaelicFox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I've gone for Leadsome. I lived in South Northamptonshire for a good while and they like sane/sensible politics around there. A genuine Brexit with a good delivery and good grasp of what she's talking about. Clearly capable of dealing with complex questions too and with decent real life experience. May may command respect but doesn't look as if she could charm a turd from a bilious backside, Crabb's not got the experience but may merit a chance to get some and no, I wouldn't want Gove, clever as he might be. It seems he'd metaphorically knife his own nearest to satisfy his ambitions and would therefore never be completely trustworthy. Politics really does need some people at the top who don't just have talent but also speak words you can trust. I doubt if any of them tick all the boxes necessary but Leadsome seems as solid as any and I did like the way she presented the Leave case and how she remained unruffled under considerable pressure. . South Northamptonshite is Miton Keynes isn't it ?
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I've got close ties to Leicester City FC but it doesn't mean I believe in using clappers of playing Hey Jude before kick off. I can't see anywhere that Crabb has publicly stated he thinks being Gay is an illness (unless you can dig up some dirt on him ) http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/19/iain-duncan-smiths-replacement-at-the-dwp-criticised-for-past-links-to-gay-cure-group/ Here's a link to "pink news".
Thracian Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 South Northamptonshite is Miton Keynes isn't it ? I'm tempted to say that even a stately home has a privy but Milton Keynes had only just been built when i lived and worked in the area and was fine if you could find your way through the maze of seemingly identical roundabouts. By the tone of your comment I presume it's not improved.
sphericalfox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I've I was a Tory I'd be voting for Gove, a man who can run the country without experts, and is the kinda guy who leads from the front, taking no bullshit.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I've I was a Tory I'd be voting for Gove, a man who can run the country without experts, and is the kinda guy who leads from the front, taking no bullshit. But talks a lot of it!
Guest Bilo Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 If Gove becomes PM, I'll be only too delighted to emigrate to escape the inevitable carnage. He might be a very intelligent man, but he's about as useful as a condom machine in a monastery.
sphericalfox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 But talks a lot of it! Gove is journalist, that's his strength, he can tell the people what they want, and what Lord Rupert wants too all at the same time. That's a sign of a leader with skills. Just what the country needs. Experts just know shit, they don't know shit though, that's the important difference, Michael recognises.
Guest Bilo Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Gove is journalist, that's his strength, he can tell the people what they want, and what Lord Rupert wants too all at the same time. That's a sign of a leader with skills. Just what the country needs. Experts just know shit, they don't know shit though, that's the important difference, Michael recognises. Just a shame he's hopeless.
AKCJ Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Gove would have won a few years ago but I think people genuinely want someone who won't tell them bullshit they'd like to hear and tell them actual truths instead. Although it's up to the Tories to decide. I think May will win, quite convincingly too.
sphericalfox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Gove would have won a few years ago but I think people genuinely want someone who won't tell them bullshit they'd like to hear and tell them actual truths instead. Although it's up to the Tories to decide. I think May will win, quite convincingly too. This basically is the 'who can suck Uncle Ruppie off best' competition. May could be ideal, she looks like a shaking wet lettuce.
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