Rileigh84 Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 On 03/11/2016 at 08:43, Col city fan said: He's pretty ineffectual if truth be told. He's rarely beating players, his passing has gone right off and of course, he's not scoring many. Harsh to single out Mahrez on that score - there are few if any performing to the levels of last season. Mahrez has always been one of those players that can drift in and out of games but he has got a couple of assists and goals this season, which is more than can be said for the likes of Vardy for example.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 hour ago, MattCan said: You logically cannot compare the numbers of Hazard in Chelsea to the numbers of Mahrez in Leicester. It is like comparing the number of cars a rich guy can purchase to those of a poor guy. Still, he outperformed Hazard last year against all odds. Edit: Yeah, what's a successful take-on? - Passing ONE player with Costa, Kante, Matic, Alonso around? or - Passing THREE/FOUR players at the same time with no leicester player in sight? Attempting to take on player/s 49 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Exactly the point! Which HankMarvin don't seem to get? For some reason? As i said that hazard and these other keymen not sure why you are all just looking at hazard, there are 16 better examples there that dont play for chelsea. MY point is he has the lowest success rate, there are players from worse teams that are successfully taking on players so why are people putting it down to the caliber of his team mates as the issue - as opposed to him being off form.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 hour ago, fuchsntf said: Difference. Mahrez is the only player we have who runs at the oppo. Easy covered in our style of play. Those others listed, or at least most of them, have also WClass players has teammates, or others who can take more players on. We never had high class quality tekkies, Mahrez at present is the only one.. Most of them? Palace Everton West ham boro bourmouth sunderland watford full of world beaters
fuchsntf Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: Most of them? Palace Everton West ham boro bourmouth sunderland watford full of world beaters How profain... At present I would put their players above ours. Its not agreeable, I dont like it..but I aint fooling myself. I prefer to watch their style, than our present non-exsistent one. Dont forget I supposed to be the die hard optimist on this forum. Thats why I believe we still will turn it around. But I wont paint pretty pictures, when we're dishing out 70minutes of turgid, uninspiring football. I dont go head hunting, or witch burning for individual players, because at present its the collective..
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 9 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: How profain... At present I would put their players above ours. Its not agreeable, I dont like it..but I aint fooling myself. I prefer to watch their style, than our present non-exsistent one. Dont forget I supposed to be the die hard optimist on this forum. Thats why I believe we still will turn it around. But I wont paint pretty pictures, when we're dishing out 70minutes of turgid, uninspiring football. I dont go head hunting, or witch burning for individual players, because at present its the collective.. Profane Make your mind up you just said most of them teams have world class players, thats why their take ons are successful.
fuchsntf Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 hour ago, Gerbold said: " Mahrez is what he is. He's a mercurial player who wins you games and has everyone saying what a world class talent he is. His weaknesses get forgotten. His carelessness with the ball, particularly in defensive areas last night was criminal and we were lucky not to be punished. He had several chances to spring the quick break and either messed up the final ball or held on too long. So a poor game, but soon he'll score an amazing goal and we'll all be singing his praises again. That's just the beauty of Riyadh Mahrez." 'Thracian' wrote much the same as 'smudgerfox' some time ago, yet with an analysis of his 'weaknesses' and stating that he hasn't reached his full potential as yet. Mahrez has to find ways of giving himself time and space to frustrate those defenders - even if they double or triple up on him. There are plenty of other players who have to ride attention like that, Someone posted last week saying that the great teams can afford a 'mercurial' player - someone who can appear quiescent for long periods in a match until the opening he awaits appears. Mahrez could do that last season because Kanté enable him to do so and Vardy was acting as an equally threatening alternative outlet for attack. That time is, hopefully just for the moment, over. It's apparent to most observers that Kanté's departure has detrimentally affected the team's ability to pick off potential attacks before they have time to develop - and also to transition the ball into swift defence-unsettling attacks. All those who have been criticising Mahrez, Vardy and Drinkwater aren't assessing the team - they're assessing individuals. Without Kanté the team have had to develop strategies to cope with his absence and, because of that, ostensibly world-class players of last season have appeared inept or without timing this time around. However they are still world-class players, it's just that that level of performance demands the supply of ball. I suspect Messi would not appear so effective without an Iniesta seeing the openings with which to feed him. PS Writing is like any other discipline - work hard and practice and try to analyse what you wish to state. Be objective and rigorous in your self-assessment. Don't be so worried about being shot down - it's only their opinion. My favourite aphorism is, "eat sh1t, a million flies can't be wrong." Great writer, but you aint no mathmatician...more like a trillion, not counting the ones who fked up their landings..
fuchsntf Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: Most of them? Palace Everton West ham boro bourmouth sunderland watford full of world beaters Take the sentence to the end..then disagree..!! And dont use the best group thats ever been, name in vain. We are the Shadow of Last season, its been savage, and no wonderfull land, Apaches taking scalps, not come back from Summer holidays,We could con the PL, but not kon-tiki,We are no longer the fearless city, but the frighten city, We hope Atlantis can rise again....That Ranieri can refrain from the foot tapper, to become again the Shadoogie.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 minute ago, fuchsntf said: Take the sentence to the end..then disagree..!! And dont use the best group thats ever been, name in vain. We are the Shadow of Last season, its been savage, and no wonderfull land, Apaches taking scalps, not come back from Summer holidays,We could con the PL, but not kon-tiki,We are no longer the fearless city, but the frighten city, We hope Atlantis can rise again....That Ranieri can refrain from the foot tapper, to become again the Shadoogie. What are you going on about, lay off the midweek drink
fuchsntf Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Just now, HankMarvin said: What are you going on about, lay off the midweek drink Just now, HankMarvin said: What are you going on about, lay off the midweek drink Ahh so you carry his name, but no nothing of the group...A baycityroller in Shadows clothing..I fear.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 6 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Ahh so you carry his name, but no nothing of the group...A baycityroller in Shadows clothing..I fear.
Mezeker Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 On 11/3/2016 at 04:43, Col city fan said: Whatever theory is postulated regarding the demise of Mahrez, the player we are watching this season is miles off the player we applauded time over, last season. He's pretty ineffectual if truth be told. He's rarely beating players, his passing has gone right off and of course, he's not scoring many. I think losing Kante has possibly been the single most important reason. Kante was applauded for his defensive work and rightly so. But his ability to make twenty yard bursts FORWARD and to give it quickly to Mahrez was as important last season. Mahrez was then given one on one situations to exploit, which he did to great effect. We've lost that midfield 'burst' such that when Mahrez gets the ball, the opposition have had the time to double up on him. And he's no Messi...generally when Mahrez is doubled up on, he hasn't the ability to beat two or three players. And who apart from Messi routinely beats 2 or 3 players every game? What is this?
Mezeker Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 On 11/3/2016 at 05:28, Gerbold said: He's gone and the after-effects are obvious. No good criticising Ranieri - you just don't replace a unique player - you have to create a new system which plays to the strengths you have. Drinkwater has been the only outfield player who appears to have gone on regardless - which is a fantastic tribute to his mental and physical strength and determination. A handful of people including myself explicitly stated in preseason with the departure of Kante we would have to alter both our the formation but also style of play. I even explicitly stated that our success this year would be based solely on CR ability to adapt to his new reality. The most significant reproche that is completely justified was his activity in the transfer market, he should of looked for a bunch of technically gifted midfield players that could actually string passes together so we were not completely inept in possession. Instead he signed a terrible defender, a winger/striker suited to last season's sytle of play.
MattCan Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 2 hours ago, HankMarvin said: Most of them? Palace Everton West ham boro bourmouth sunderland watford full of world beaters I don't get your real point but I will stick with MahrezMagic! Your Zaha and Co. are too boring for me to watch.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 4 minutes ago, MattCan said: I don't get your real point but I will stick with MahrezMagic! Your Zaha and Co. are too boring for me to watch. Try reading the replies and the context in which they are written may seem clearer
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 14 minutes ago, Mezeker said: A handful of people including myself explicitly stated in preseason with the departure of Kante we would have to alter both our the formation but also style of play. I even explicitly stated that our success this year would be based solely on CR ability to adapt to his new reality. The most significant reproche that is completely justified was his activity in the transfer market, he should of looked for a bunch of technically gifted midfield players that could actually string passes together so we were not completely inept in possession. Instead he signed a terrible defender, a winger/striker suited to last season's sytle of play. whilst we are digressing on to Kante, for all the people that said his game will suffer at Chelsea because they retain possession. Another side of his play has actually improved massively, his hit half the passes he did for us last season in 11 games at 90% accuracy.
MattCan Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 30 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Try reading the replies and the context in which they are written may seem clearer I did. I still don't see your point. I don't think the players you have listed would be more valuable to the team atm than Mahrez if that's your point.
ZeGuy Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 9 minutes ago, MattCan said: I did. I still don't see your point. I don't think the players you have listed would be more valuable to the team atm than Mahrez if that's your point. That's not his point.
MattCan Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 6 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: That's not his point. Thank you.
HankMarvin Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 24 minutes ago, MattCan said: Thank you. People were saying that Mahrez form is down to how the team is playing and if you stuck in him the Chelsea team he would be a world beater, so i took a stat (takeon) that relies on the player and opponent only (coincidentally that Mahrez topped last year) and pointed out that there are players from so called "poorer" sides that have a much higher success rate yet play for teams that have played worse than ours. I believe he is off form and playing poorly, as i said here " I dont think his short comings this year can be totally blamed on his teammates" the list of clubs was in response, to the person that said Those others listed, or at least most of them, have also WClass players has teammates
Nod.E Posted 9 November 2016 Posted 9 November 2016 On 02/11/2016 at 22:48, Foxxed said: He could play there. He may play really well. But he'd need service. How would Shinji fit into that situation? Mahrez is hardly the frantic harrying type. 4321 DS--RH--WM--CF ----------DA -------DD--NM ----RM--------SO ----------JV
lgfualol Posted 12 November 2016 Posted 12 November 2016 http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2016/11/12/58270e45ca4741ef738b458a.html hilarious statement Ranieri will play Schlupl against Watford now
Wymsey Posted 13 November 2016 Posted 13 November 2016 Aubameyang will be favourite but voted for Mahrez. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37925428
brucey Posted 13 November 2016 Posted 13 November 2016 19 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Aubameyang will be favourite but voted for Mahrez. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37925428 Mahrez will win it as it's 100% based on public votes. You saw what happened to the Ballon d'Or public polls.
MC Prussian Posted 13 November 2016 Posted 13 November 2016 14 hours ago, lgfualol said: http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2016/11/12/58270e45ca4741ef738b458a.html hilarious statement Ranieri will play Schlupl against Watford now "..., the French international told Goal". What a pile of ****. Absolutely speculative and illogical reporting. Just anything to hype La Liga and desperately trying to link Mahrez to Spanish football.
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