Stop Funding Hate

[GazzinderFox]

In the last couple of days I've become aware of a campaign called stop funding hate.

 

I expect some of you have seen it too. This organisation is putting pressure on several supermarkets to stop all advertising in the Sun, the DM and the Telegraph.

 

Is this the way to counter hysteria on the front pages or is it simply an illiberal attempt to censor the right wing press?

 

I guess what I'm getting at here is not to debate the merits of these newspapers but to debate whether this is the best approach for countering their arguments.

 

[sphericalfox]

10 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said:

In the last couple of days I've become aware of a campaign called stop funding hate.

 

I expect some of you have seen it too. This organisation is putting pressure on several supermarkets to stop all advertising in the Sun, the DM and the Telegraph.

 

Is this the way to counter hysteria on the front pages or is it simply an illiberal attempt to censor the right wing press?

How is it censorship exactly?

[GazzinderFox]

2 minutes ago, sphericalfox said:

How is it censorship exactly?

I didn't say it was I only asked the question.

 

But could it *become* censorship if it became a campaign where advertisers were pressured or shamed into pulling out and these newspapers felt they had to change their editorials purely for commercial reasons?

[Fox92]

I see Lego have ended a promotional agreement with The Daily Mail. 

[leicsmac]

If certain companies want to pull out of advertising in the press because they think their bottom line is going to be harmed through negative publicity, then that's up to them and the press involved should perhaps start looking for other companies willing to pay them for advertising space.

[sphericalfox]

7 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said:

I didn't say it was I only asked the question.

 

But could it *become* censorship if it became a campaign where advertisers were pressured or shamed into pulling out and these newspapers felt they had to change their editorials purely for commercial reasons?

They'll find other companies who'll be happy to support their agendas. Got **** all to do with direct censorship.

[Wymsey]

I would advise any company to stop advertising in the DM and The Sun in particular.

Published bullshit stories/over-reactive 'claims' for years.

[Webbo]

The right wing press doesn't have a monopoly on hate. I hope the supermarkets tell these twats to fvck off.

[GazzinderFox]

8 minutes ago, sphericalfox said:

They'll find other companies who'll be happy to support their agendas. Got **** all to do with direct censorship.

What do you think the motive is then?

[sphericalfox]

Just now, GazzinderFox said:

What do you think the motive is then?

err....it's in the name of the organisation methinks...

[stripeyfox]

I despair at the Daily Mail. I work in an office where nearly everyone browses the Mail website at lunchtime. Personally I'd rather chop my own bollocks off than even entertain the idea of looking at their website and adding to their click traffic (or whatever it is called). My parents used to read the mail and they became convinced that every 15 year old in the country was on drugs and hung around street corners waiting to mug them. Now it is "immigrants". The DM (and others) love to create division - it is their aim.

 

I was also the only one in my office to vote "Remain"....

 

[GazzinderFox]

5 minutes ago, sphericalfox said:

err....it's in the name of the organisation methinks...

So... you stop funding the hate, the hate goes away right?

 

Or to put it another way, you stop funding the DM and the DM goes away?

[ealingfox]

Fair cop for the DM and The Sun but a bit harsh on The Telegraph even if it is Tory af.

[Webbo]

Just now, ealingfox said:

Fair cop for the DM and The Sun but a bit harsh on The Telegraph even if it is Tory af.

If you don't like it don't buy it. What right has anyone else got to decide what you should be allowed to read?

[sphericalfox]

3 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said:

So... you stop funding the hate, the hate goes away right?

 

Or to put it another way, you stop funding the DM and the DM goes away?

Nope, it'll not go away. It's survived peddling it's agenda thus far. The point is for organisations happy to advertise in said rag to consider other options and not associate with hateful propaganda.

[GazzinderFox]

I guess what I'm getting at here is not to debate the merits of these newspapers but to debate whether this is the best approach for countering their arguments.

[Guest]

Just now, Webbo said:

If you don't like it don't buy it. What right has anyone else got to decide what you should be allowed to read?

They're not telling anybody what they're allowed to read. They're exercising their right to take their custom elsewhere if they don't change the tone of their coverage  to something more responsible. 

 

You're free to buy twice the amount of stuff if you like their coverage Webbo.

[sphericalfox]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

If you don't like it don't buy it. What right has anyone else got to decide what you should be allowed to read?

Nobody is suggesting you shouldn't buy it. If you agree with their bs, then knock yourself out. But if you are an organisation that wants to sell it's wares then perhaps aligning yourself with this, then you should reconsider.

[Barky]

5 minutes ago, Webbo said:

If you don't like it don't buy it. What right has anyone else got to decide what you should be allowed to read?

You'd be ok with stores stocking say, Islamic State Weekly?

[Webbo]

A Guardian journalist tweeted that it was time for a presidential assassination this week. Does that count as hate? 

1 minute ago, Emilio Lestavez said:

They're not telling anybody what they're allowed to read. They're exercising their right to take their custom elsewhere if they don't change the tone of their coverage  to something more responsible. 

 

You're free to buy twice the amount of stuff if you like their coverage Webbo.

 

Just now, sphericalfox said:

Nobody is suggesting you shouldn't buy it. If you agree with their bs, then knock yourself out. But if you are an organisation that wants to sell it's wares then perhaps aligning yourself with this, then you should reconsider.

But you're trying to deny them income so that they go out of business. 

 

Yet again lefties have decided that nobody is clever enough to make their minds up for themselves, and then they wonder why people hate them.

[Webbo]

1 minute ago, Barky said:

You'd be ok with stores stocking say, Islamic State Weekly?

Grow up, how is it in any way comparable? Please give me an example.

[Barky]

35 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said:

I didn't say it was I only asked the question.

 

But could it *become* censorship if it became a campaign where advertisers were pressured or shamed into pulling out and these newspapers felt they had to change their editorials purely for commercial reasons?

All the articles are modified for commercial reasons anyway. You don't think the journalists at the likes of the sun or the daily mail actually believe half the crap they write do you? They're performing for their audience for money. 

[bovril]

There's an obscene amount of scare-mongering and hate-filled paranoia in our gutter press, more than anywhere else in Western Europe. You would kind of expect it in smaller, poorer, less socially-developed countries, I don't really know what our excuse is. 

[Barky]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

Grow up, how is it in any way comparable? Please give me an example.

Some people agree with what Islamic state have to say. What right does anyone have to tell them they can't read those publications?

[sphericalfox]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

A Guardian journalist tweeted that it was time for a presidential assassination this week. Does that count as hate? 

 

But you're trying to deny them income so that they go out of business. 

 

Yet again lefties have decided that nobody is clever enough to make their minds up for themselves, and then they wonder why people hate them.

WTF are you on about Webbo? The DM is owned by a multi-billionaire, which peddles hate. We'll all be dead before they go out of business. Why are you assuming this some sort of campaign against the readers?