Innovindil Posted 10 November 2017 Posted 10 November 2017 5 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: Imagine what we could achieve without the bloody EU holding us back. We could be the most obese nation in the world! https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/10/uk-most-obese-country-in-western-europe-oecd-report-finds And people are still worried about food prices. Country could do with going hungry for a bit imo.
Strokes Posted 10 November 2017 Posted 10 November 2017 5 minutes ago, toddybad said: Not if the fish happen to have swum into French territorial waters and we're no longer allowed to catch them. I don’t think that will be an issue should we regain our fishing territories. 10 minutes ago, toddybad said: The overall % isn't that bad - though I don't know who did the report to know how unbiased it is or isn't - but some of the food %s are quite high. Add that to a falling pound and that had the potential to put large stresses on family budgets. About Us Our Aims and Programmes We strive to benefit public debate through independent research, reasoned argument, lucid explanation and open discussion. We stand apart from party politics and transitory intellectual fashions. We make our work available in books, pamphlets, online, and in electronic formats and encourage authors to make their arguments accessible to non-specialists. 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Bellend Sebastian Posted 10 November 2017 Posted 10 November 2017 10 minutes ago, Innovindil said: And people are still worried about food prices. Country could do with going hungry for a bit imo. It would be a good plan if the only food we'll be able to afford isn't Ye Olde Oak tinned hotdogs 1 1
ajthefox Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 6 hours ago, Innovindil said: And people are still worried about food prices. Country could do with going hungry for a bit imo. Yeah, all those poor bastards using food banks really should stop being so greedy.
Guest Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 13 hours ago, Strokes said: I don’t think that will be an issue should we regain our fishing territories. About Us Our Aims and Programmes We strive to benefit public debate through independent research, reasoned argument, lucid explanation and open discussion. We stand apart from party politics and transitory intellectual fashions. We make our work available in books, pamphlets, online, and in electronic formats and encourage authors to make their arguments accessible to non-specialists. Some publications are designed for use in schools and universities. Most recently, we have published a knowledge-rich primary school curriculum designed to enable children of all abilities to share in the intellectual heritage of Western civilisation. Uniquely among think tanks, we play an active, practical part in rebuilding civil society by running schools on Saturdays and after-school hours so that children who are falling behind at school can achieve their full potential. Primary Education For Children Falling Behind at School Supplementary Schools Many primary school pupils are not learning the basics. On Saturdays and after school hours during weekdays we provide lessons in English and maths for children who have fallen behind. We use a no-frills approach which concentrates on high-quality teaching along traditional lines to enable children to master essential skills quickly. We emphasise small class sizes, reading through synthetic phonics and mental arithmetic. Civitas operates sixteen supplementary schools in London. The schools provide additional English and maths lessons for about 500 primary-aged children each week. Our aim is to encourage disadvantaged children to be high-achievers, to reach their full academic potential and thereby to open up new opportunities. The children also benefit from a two-week summer school. The effect of the schools on the lives of the children is noticeable in the short-term, and in the long-term it is incalculable. As a result of attending the schools we hope and expect that the children will do better at school and find themselves with more options when they join the world of work. We hope they will become prosperous and responsible citizens. The demand for what the schools are offering is very high and we have hundreds of children on our waiting lists. 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They are free at our website and were downloaded over 400,000 times in 2015 and are currently being used in over 750 schools with sixth forms, which is about a quarter of the total number.The remarks of this teacher are typical: ‘I thought I would drop you a line to say thank you for your wonderful website – it is extremely supportive for teaching the A2 politics unit on the EU’. Family and Marriage The main school subject in which the issue of the family and marriage is raised is Personal, Social, Health and Economic Education (PSHE). We supply educational materials, including lesson notes, for teachers of PSHE. Several factsheets have proved popular, either in hard copy or via our web site. In calendar year 2015, over 200,000 copies of the factsheets were downloaded by schools. Click here for factsheets for teachers. 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Origins and history Civitas started life as the IEA Health & Welfare Unit of the neoliberal think-tank the Institute of Economic Affairs and was spun-off as an independent think-tank in 2000. [2] http://powerbase.info/index.php/Civitas
Strokes Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 1 minute ago, toddybad said: Imagine a think tank that didn't claim to be unbiased It's a right leaning think tank. Origins and history Civitas started life as the IEA Health & Welfare Unit of the neoliberal think-tank the Institute of Economic Affairs and was spun-off as an independent think-tank in 2000. [2] http://powerbase.info/index.php/Civitas Right leaning doesn’t mean anti EU. There is no such thing as impartial when it comes to politics mind.
Guest Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 8 minutes ago, Strokes said: Right leaning doesn’t mean anti EU. There is no such thing as impartial when it comes to politics mind. http://www.eu-facts.org.uk/2016/06/06/why-we-must-vote-to-leave-the-eu-a-briefing-note-by-peter-morgan/
Strokes Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 9 minutes ago, toddybad said: Imagine a think tank that didn't claim to be unbiased It's a right leaning think tank. Origins and history Civitas started life as the IEA Health & Welfare Unit of the neoliberal think-tank the Institute of Economic Affairs and was spun-off as an independent think-tank in 2000. [2] http://powerbase.info/index.php/Civitas 7 minutes ago, Strokes said: Right leaning doesn’t mean anti EU. There is no such thing as impartial when it comes to politics mind. Haha, I think we might have our answer here Even so, if you can show me another study on WTO terms I’d give it a read and consider the contents.
Guest Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 3 minutes ago, Strokes said: Haha, I think we might have our answer here Even so, if you can show me another study on WTO terms I’d give it a read and consider the contents. Trouble is there's never any unbiased source material is there? I sit with remain as it seems to me it's difficult to trust anything you read so I have to side with the fact the experts who most know what they're talking about all think leave is madness. Beyond that it's just people touting whatever they've read as fact, on both sides.
Guest MattP Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 What is it about Labour and Bradford that produces these people? https://order-order.com/2017/11/10/labour-candidate-good-jews-done/
Strokes Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 26 minutes ago, toddybad said: Trouble is there's never any unbiased source material is there? I sit with remain as it seems to me it's difficult to trust anything you read so I have to side with the fact the experts who most know what they're talking about all think leave is madness. Beyond that it's just people touting whatever they've read as fact, on both sides. Yeah and I can understand your point, but I think one thing that we could find some common ground on, is even the experts have very little idea. A successful Brexit or least harmful Brexit (depends on your position) Varys in the deatails so much, it’s beyond belief. Which is why so many find it hard too.
Guest Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 Theresa May faces defeat by MPs demanding vote on final Brexit deal https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/11/theresa-may-faces-defeat-mp-demanding-vote-on-brexit-deal?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Guest Posted 11 November 2017 Posted 11 November 2017 Long waits in A&E have increased by 557% in seven years, NHS data reveals https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/11/nhs-trolley-waits-a-and-e-increased-557-per-cent?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Buce Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/11/jeremy-corbyn-boris-johnson-iran Boris Johnson has been embarrassing Britain for long enough. It’s time for him to go Jeremy Corbyn Theresa May should never have appointed someone as Britain’s top diplomat who had accused Barack Obama of being anti-British because he’s “part-Kenyan”, and notoriously wrote about “flag-waving piccaninnies”. Now, after 16 months of the foreign secretary damaging Britain’s standing in the world, she should sack him. With shocking callousness, Boris Johnson caused outrage last month by declaring that the Libyan city of Sirte could become “the next Dubai” once they “clear the dead bodies away”. Making jokes about people killed in a civil war, (in which the Conservative-led government intervened militarily and which has made us less safe), is breathtakingly crass and was rightly condemned by Tory MPs as well as Libyan leaders. His colonial throwback take on the world is completely out of step with the reality of our diverse and modern country and the views of our people. We should embrace the 21st century, not hanker after the 19th. In his first conference speech as foreign secretary, Johnson referred to Africa, a continent of more than 50 states as “that country”. He claimed that life expectancy in Africa “has risen astonishingly” as it “has entered the global economic system”. Sadly, life expectancy has not risen astonishingly across the continent in the last 30 years and has fallen in several countries. Britain’s top diplomat needs to be a leader in cultural sensitivity, but he repeatedly lets our country down. He thought a Sikh gurdwara the appropriate place to discuss Indian whisky tariffs. Johnson was forced to apologise when it was pointed out that alcohol is prohibited in Sikhism. On an official trip to Myanmar, Johnson was captured on film embarrassing his hosts by reciting a colonial era poem in a sacred Buddhist site. Britain’s ambassador Andrew Patrick was forced to intervene to tell him it was inappropriate. Once again, Johnson showed his nostalgia for a brutal imperial past. Johnson has not learned how to be diplomatic or represent our country. And now we have the heartbreaking case of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, whose future liberty is under threat because of Johnson’s serial bungling. The foreign secretary should have the decency to say clearly and unequivocally that he was wrong and do everything possible to make sure she isn’t punished for his cavalier mistake. With growing tensions on the Korean peninsula, we need serious diplomacy and nuclear armed states to re-engage with the process of meaningful multilateral disarmament. Johnson has failed to provide it, ducking our international obligations under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. We’ve put up with him embarrassing and undermining our country through his incompetence and putting our citizens at risk for long enough. It’s time for Boris Johnson to go.
Buce Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 The Times is reporting that 40 Tory MPs have signed a letter of no confidence in Maybot - just 8 short of the number required for a leadership election.
Guest MattP Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 Corbyn calling people for embarrassing Britain after what he has done over the last 30 years. The irony is incredible.
Guest MattP Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 37 minutes ago, Buce said: The Times is reporting that 40 Tory MPs have signed a letter of no confidence in Maybot - just 8 short of the number required for a leadership election. Can't come quick enough.
Buce Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 Just now, MattP said: Can't come quick enough. Any chance you could post the article, Matt (I assume you subscribe?)?
Guest MattP Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 Forty MPs have agreed to sign a letter of no confidence in Theresa May as European Union negotiators threaten to block trade talks until March unless Britain agrees to settle the Brexit divorce bill. The embattled prime minister is facing a fight on three fronts following another week of Tory turmoil in which Priti Patel become the second cabinet minister to resign and two other cabinet ministers — Damian Green and Boris Johnson — faced pressure to quit. May now faces a “make or break” month as: ● Senior European politicians and officials warn that the talks are entering a “crisis mode” as a preliminary deal will probably not be reached in December, as previously expected, but could instead be postponed until March ● Plotters reveal that 40 Conservative MPs — eight short of the number required to force a leadership challenge — have joined a list of Tory rebels who want her to resign ● The EU withdrawal bill returns to the Commons on Tuesday with Labour expected to join Tory rebels to inflict a series of damaging defeats on the government. Today Jeremy Corbyn issues an ultimatum to the prime minister and tells her to “govern or go” as she “shows every sign of being in office but not in power”. In an article for The Sunday Times, the Labour leader accuses her of being too weak to deliver Brexit and claims the chaos surrounding her “crumbling” government risks “dangerously weakening Britain’s hand” in the talks. “Continuing uncertainty about the government’s approach to Brexit is now the biggest risk facing our country,” he writes. “The prime minister must end the confusion, take on the ‘no-deal’ extremists in her government and back a jobs-first Brexit for Britain.” Privately some Tory MPs and ministers agree with Corbyn and fear May has become a liability to the Brexit process. They are discussing whether the party needs a period in opposition to reinvent itself. One minister said: “It’s a horrible thing to say . . . but we are getting closer and closer to the point whereby we need some time in opposition to regroup.” The news comes as the European Commission has set up a “preparedness taskforce” for a no-deal Brexit amid fears that a collapse of May’s government could lead to Britain crashing out of the bloc. EU negotiators say their UK counterparts have signalled willingness to resolve the key outstanding issue — agreeing to pay a €60bn exit bill — which is a condition for starting trade talks. They are concerned, however, that “turmoil” in the Tory party could prevent the British side from making a clear financial commitment at a key Brussels summit in December, which could delay progress until March or even bring down the government. A Brexit adviser to a European prime minister said the talks were now “hostage” to the Conservative Party’s “internal psychodrama”. He said: “This is a Tory party problem and there is nothing we can do about it here. Should we put all of our cards on the table with May — only to find out that she would be replaced months or even weeks from now?” A German government source said EU leaders had “no choice” but to rely on May as a partner, but it was difficult to conduct complex negotiations with a “moving target”. Konrad Szymanski, Poland’s European affairs minister, who met David Davis, the Brexit secretary, last week, said “both sides” had tried to use time pressure as “leverage” but he was confident of a “last-minute deal”, possibly in March. His words were echoed by a senior government source in Austria, who said he expected Britain to commit to the financial part of the deal and kickstart the trade talks “latest by March”. Downing Street hoped it had killed off any coup last month after it revealed that Grant Shapps, a former Tory chairman, had been the “chief rebel” assembling a list of MPs wanting May to go. Rebel leaders say May has made the situation more dangerous because some MPs were now sending letters directly to Graham Brady, chairman of the backbench 1922 committee. In an article for The Sunday Times, Davis today signals that the government will attempt to face down the rebels who are demanding a series of concessions on the withdrawal bill, including on “Henry VIII powers” and a binding vote in parliament on the final EU deal. He writes: “The principal arguments by those who seek to derail this bill are that it involves a ‘power-grab’ . . . and that it undermines rights and protections on equalities, workers’ rights and the environment currently enshrined in EU law. They are both wildly wrong.”
Popular Post Sharpe's Fox Posted 12 November 2017 Popular Post Posted 12 November 2017 1 hour ago, Buce said: The Times is reporting that 40 Tory MPs have signed a letter of no confidence in Maybot - just 8 short of the number required for a leadership election. Christmas election incoming, baby! Who's that coming down the Downing Street chimney? 8
ithuriel Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 May couldn't lead a chorus of, 'row, row, row your boat' let alone a government, problem is have we actually got any politicians who would make a credible PM because from what I have seen these past few years none of them are worth a vote.
Strokes Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 21 minutes ago, ithuriel said: May couldn't lead a chorus of, 'row, row, row your boat' let alone a government, problem is have we actually got any politicians who would make a credible PM because from what I have seen these past few years none of them are worth a vote. It’s a shame Hunt and Gove are so toxic with the electorate because both would make good PMs imo. 1
fuchsntf Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 Why do we have incompetent buffoons like B.Johnson,..J.Hunt. plus The whole of the Brexit team.. UK politics, is becoming something between Simpsons, Southpark, with a female Basil Fawlty in the starring role. Austerity pushed around 95% of my lifetime, where now there is more money around than ever. zero hr contracts, where supposedly jobs are plentifull. where zero hr contracts, can only be negative for both the home-rents and home-buys, In the 70s ..(my teenage years) 50yrs+ on no change no improvement Doctors and nurses were struggling. Same as police, leaving the job. Military personnel, left in the gutter, with no support, after serving and sacrificing life and limb. Soup Kitchens, used today from people who if given a decent wage would not be struggling. 2017...I dont believe the date stamps....!!!!
Guest Posted 12 November 2017 Posted 12 November 2017 2 hours ago, MattP said: Forty MPs have agreed to sign a letter of no confidence in Theresa May as European Union negotiators threaten to block trade talks until March unless Britain agrees to settle the Brexit divorce bill. The embattled prime minister is facing a fight on three fronts following another week of Tory turmoil in which Priti Patel become the second cabinet minister to resign and two other cabinet ministers — Damian Green and Boris Johnson — faced pressure to quit. May now faces a “make or break” month as: ● Senior European politicians and officials warn that the talks are entering a “crisis mode” as a preliminary deal will probably not be reached in December, as previously expected, but could instead be postponed until March ● Plotters reveal that 40 Conservative MPs — eight short of the number required to force a leadership challenge — have joined a list of Tory rebels who want her to resign ● The EU withdrawal bill returns to the Commons on Tuesday with Labour expected to join Tory rebels to inflict a series of damaging defeats on the government. Today Jeremy Corbyn issues an ultimatum to the prime minister and tells her to “govern or go” as she “shows every sign of being in office but not in power”. In an article for The Sunday Times, the Labour leader accuses her of being too weak to deliver Brexit and claims the chaos surrounding her “crumbling” government risks “dangerously weakening Britain’s hand” in the talks. “Continuing uncertainty about the government’s approach to Brexit is now the biggest risk facing our country,” he writes. “The prime minister must end the confusion, take on the ‘no-deal’ extremists in her government and back a jobs-first Brexit for Britain.” Privately some Tory MPs and ministers agree with Corbyn and fear May has become a liability to the Brexit process. They are discussing whether the party needs a period in opposition to reinvent itself. One minister said: “It’s a horrible thing to say . . . but we are getting closer and closer to the point whereby we need some time in opposition to regroup.” The news comes as the European Commission has set up a “preparedness taskforce” for a no-deal Brexit amid fears that a collapse of May’s government could lead to Britain crashing out of the bloc. EU negotiators say their UK counterparts have signalled willingness to resolve the key outstanding issue — agreeing to pay a €60bn exit bill — which is a condition for starting trade talks. They are concerned, however, that “turmoil” in the Tory party could prevent the British side from making a clear financial commitment at a key Brussels summit in December, which could delay progress until March or even bring down the government. A Brexit adviser to a European prime minister said the talks were now “hostage” to the Conservative Party’s “internal psychodrama”. He said: “This is a Tory party problem and there is nothing we can do about it here. Should we put all of our cards on the table with May — only to find out that she would be replaced months or even weeks from now?” A German government source said EU leaders had “no choice” but to rely on May as a partner, but it was difficult to conduct complex negotiations with a “moving target”. Konrad Szymanski, Poland’s European affairs minister, who met David Davis, the Brexit secretary, last week, said “both sides” had tried to use time pressure as “leverage” but he was confident of a “last-minute deal”, possibly in March. His words were echoed by a senior government source in Austria, who said he expected Britain to commit to the financial part of the deal and kickstart the trade talks “latest by March”. Downing Street hoped it had killed off any coup last month after it revealed that Grant Shapps, a former Tory chairman, had been the “chief rebel” assembling a list of MPs wanting May to go. Rebel leaders say May has made the situation more dangerous because some MPs were now sending letters directly to Graham Brady, chairman of the backbench 1922 committee. In an article for The Sunday Times, Davis today signals that the government will attempt to face down the rebels who are demanding a series of concessions on the withdrawal bill, including on “Henry VIII powers” and a binding vote in parliament on the final EU deal. He writes: “The principal arguments by those who seek to derail this bill are that it involves a ‘power-grab’ . . . and that it undermines rights and protections on equalities, workers’ rights and the environment currently enshrined in EU law. They are both wildly wrong.” I think were getting to the point where may should just agree to the Brexit bill, which she clearly wants to, and let the Brexiters take her on. There is clearly a majority of mps who favour a soft Brexit and won't let a hard Brexit happen, rightly understanding that it is a bigger issue than party politics.
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