2017/18 Diving Ban Panel Announced

[davieG]

Following on from the news that the Football Association would look at retrospective action for diving this season, the all important panel responsible for reviewing footage after each match day has now been named.

A three person panel will be chosen each week from a pool of 13 former players, managers and match officials and will review footage of a Monday to look for match effecting incidents of diving or feigning injury where the clear aim was to gain an advantage through an act of deception.

Players unanimously found guilty will be banned in future, but this will only occur in cases where the offending player's team were awarded a penalty or saw the opponent sent off.

Yellow cards or red cards will be automatically rescinded in such circumstances.

The exact wording from the FA is 'successful deception of a match official' and applies to the following cases.

...the offending player`s team has been:-
awarded a penalty; and/or
an opposing player has been sent-off where the act of simulation and/or feigning injury led to a straight red card or caused one of the two cautions that led to the dismissal.

The panel pool are:

Former Players/Managers:

Nigel Adkins
Rachel Brown-Finnis
Terry Butcher
Lee Dixon
Alex McLeish
Danny Murphy
Chris Powell
Trevor Sinclair

Former match officials:

Keren Barratt
Steve Dunn
Mike Mullarkey
Alan Wiley
Eddie Wolstenhome

They will only review footage where there is an obvious case to answer and given any conflicts of interests, clubs played for or managed will be factored into which pool member gets the call.

With a number of pundits on the panel, it'll be interesting to watch post match comments for indications.

Read more: http://www.bristolrovers.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=499391#ixzz4oronulgf

[WigstonWanderer]

#prayforvardy

[adam]

Pleased with this. It's been long over due 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

If a player doesn't end up with blood streaming out of head bandage then Terry Butcher will claim they've dived.

[ian_marshall]

I'm a bit disappointed to see Danny Murphy on the panel pool in all honesty. Whenever I've listened to him in the past he tends to lean towards opinion/emotion rather than fact and I think to take on this role you need someone who analyses each individual incident objectively rather than forming a biased opinion based on the player's past record, perceived character, etc.

[TheUltimateWinner]

No Tom Daley? 

[davieG]

5 minutes ago, ian_marshall said:

I'm a bit disappointed to see Danny Murphy on the panel pool in all honesty. Whenever I've listened to him in the past he tends to lean towards opinion/emotion rather than fact and I think to take on this role you need someone who analyses each individual incident objectively rather than forming a biased opinion based on the player's past record, perceived character, etc.

I think you could apply that to all of them to some degree hopefully there's sufficient input from other panel members to counteract any bias subconsciously or deliberately present.

[filbertway]

 Let's hope Slimani is ready to come in for the 5 or 6 times Vardy is banned then.

[SheppyFox]

Might aswell sell JV

[cc_star]

I quote tweeted an article on this to Vardy & he blocked me.

 

Vardy either needs to go to diving school, or more simply just stop diving... He is terrible at it

[Nick]

Vardy plays to draw the professional foul which is better than just doing weird supermans like some players - however I'm a bit bothered that the panel seems a bit defensively weighted...

[Kitchandro]

It's pointless if you're only doing it on some occassions. Inconsistency before we've started. And you can't really afford to do that with diving, there will be a huge feeling of double standards and injustice because of this.

[ealingfox]

Couple of things I don't like about this. Its not going to stop certain clubs getting the decisions firstly, and it will just have the same biases. An FA Panel is hardly likely to call out someone like Alli or Rashford, particularly just before a big game - they'll just make excuses for them as the TV pundits do.

 

Secondly the implications of a conviction - if a game is 1-1, someone dives for a penalty which is then scored and the game ends 2-1. If the dive for the penalty is called out and the player is convicted, is it not officially saying the result is illegitimate? The team that lost isn't going to get their point back. Someone like Mourinho probably considers the 2 game ban as worth it for the win and extra 2 points.

[davieG]

15 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Couple of things I don't like about this. Its not going to stop certain clubs getting the decisions firstly, and it will just have the same biases. An FA Panel is hardly likely to call out someone like Alli or Rashford, particularly just before a big game - they'll just make excuses for them as the TV pundits do.

 

Secondly the implications of a conviction - if a game is 1-1, someone dives for a penalty which is then scored and the game ends 2-1. If the dive for the penalty is called out and the player is convicted, is it not officially saying the result is illegitimate? The team that lost isn't going to get their point back. Someone like Mourinho probably considers the 2 game ban as worth it for the win and extra 2 points.

Plenty of teams would and do take a fall especially if it prevents relegation  or assists promotion/qualification.

It's called taking one for the team and is often applauded or at least condoned by pundits even more so if it's committed by a top 6 team unlike for when it wad little old Leicester.

[cc_star]

1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said:

Vardy plays to draw the professional foul which is better than just doing weird supermans like some players - however I'm a bit bothered that the panel seems a bit defensively weighted...

He does play to draw the foul, but the he throws himself through the air defies the laws of physics

 

That season he won something like 9 penalties, he was pretty much genuinely fouled in every one but since then it's almost always a dive, it's like a pre-canned animation regardless of where the opposition player doesn't touch him, it's the same every time

 

I really wish he'd cut it out, his fast play in the box will win penalties anyway