Ben Arfa

[MC Prussian]

Why are people so concerned about Ben Arfa potentially taking away a starting spot from either Mahrez or Gray?

 

He can play in the middle as an attacking midfielder, you know.

 

And it‘d be great to see him overlapping with Mahrez, Gray and - to an extent - Albrighton.

[Redouane]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

A lot more than Ben Arfa.

 

Gray is a ready made replacement for Mahrez who wants out - he'd rather play in an inferior league than play for Leicester. The only reason he's still here now is that we wouldn't take peanuts for him. The guy even (emabarassingly) camped out in an airport in the hope of getting out of Leicester.

 

I see great things in Gray. He's our future and it looks bright.

Maybe you are blinded by your anger towards Mahrez. You have every right to be angry at Riyad for trying to force a move, but to claim that Gray is anywhere near a replacement for him is just crazy talk. Surely you don't truly believe that.

[Guest]

Just now, Redouane said:

Maybe you are blinded by your anger towards Mahrez. You have every right to be angry at Riyad for trying to force a move, but to claim that Gray is anywhere near a replacement for him is just crazy talk. Surely you don't truly believe that.

I'm not French Algerian. I see that Gray is a better player at 21 than Mahrez was at 21. I see the potential Gray has but more importantly as a Leicester fan I expect Gray to be at Leicester next season. Until Mahrez leaves I'll support him whenever he plays for us, once he's gone, I'll not support him as much as a Leicester player - maybe you will be here then and maybe you won't, if you are you can tell me what you think to our new creative skill filled midfielder.

[Loves2spooge]

17 minutes ago, FIF said:

I'm not French Algerian. I see that Gray is a better player at 21 than Mahrez was at 21. I see the potential Gray has but more importantly as a Leicester fan I expect Gray to be at Leicester next season. Until Mahrez leaves I'll support him whenever he plays for us, once he's gone, I'll not support him as much as a Leicester player - maybe you will be here then and maybe you won't, if you are you can tell me what you think to our new creative skill filled midfielder.

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wait you're serious ? 

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No but seriously gray is a good player , he just needs to be tied somewhere and shown all those cheap Christmas movies about sharing because he usually prefers going for the shot one too many times rather than passing it , is he a replacement for Mahrez , No , he is nowhere near his qualities , Gray is a good player , but he isn't a play maker , he doesn't change games , The instant Mahrez was subbed in against Leeds , Our whole play changed eventually leading to the 2nd & 3rd goals 

 

I understand he's still young and learning , but then again this isn't something you learn , You either have it or not , Gray is more of a Lone wanderer, while Riyad creates the dynamic and links between the middle and the front 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Loves2spooge said:

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wait you're serious ? 

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No but seriously gray is a good player , he just needs to be tied somewhere and shown all those cheap Christmas movies about sharing because he usually prefers going for the shot one too many times rather than passing it , is he a replacement for Mahrez , No , he is nowhere near his qualities , Gray is a good player , but he isn't a play maker , he doesn't change games , The instant Mahrez was subbed in against Leeds , Our whole play changed eventually leading to the 2nd & 3rd goals 

Get back to me in a year's time or when your perceptive skills improve.

 

The instant Mahrez stepped onto the pitch for the last 18 months rarely has anything changed other than our defence become weaker. For the last 18 months he has shown himself to be a one season wonder unless you're saying he just couldn't be bothered for us.

[Redouane]

19 minutes ago, FIF said:

I'm not French Algerian. I see that Gray is a better player at 21 than Mahrez was at 21. I see the potential Gray has but more importantly as a Leicester fan I expect Gray to be at Leicester next season. Until Mahrez leaves I'll support him whenever he plays for us, once he's gone, I'll not support him as much as a Leicester player - maybe you will be here then and maybe you won't, if you are you can tell me what you think to our new creative skill filled midfielder.

I never said Gray didn't have potential, he does for sure.. but can we talk about the present? I wish Gray the best, but he's not yet mature enough to start with Leicester. Even if Mahrez does leave, I hope to see another technical player brought in to replace him. 

[Guest]

Just now, Redouane said:

I never said Gray didn't have potential, he does for sure.. but can we talk about the present? I wish Gray the best, but he's not yet mature enough to start with Leicester. Even if Mahrez does leave, I hope to see another technical player brought in to replace him. 

I am talking about the present. Mahrez is the past. Ben Arfa is neither.

[lcfc sheff]

mahrez stays in good form till January, CL clubs will bid and Ben arfa comes into replace him, in fact perhaps PSG might do a player money swap deal? 

[Redouane]

Just now, FIF said:

I am talking about the present. Mahrez is the past. Ben Arfa is neither.

Clearly not considering his last two performances. Sure, they were weaker sides, but if Mahrez can't score/assist against the top6 sides, then no way in hell will Gray. People are getting the wrong idea about Gray being a messiah, because they've seen him perform well versus lower table sides or u21s in England.

 

Why didn't he show us his worth when he started versus Bournemouth?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Redouane said:

Clearly not considering his last two performances. Sure, they were weaker sides, but if Mahrez can't score/assist against the top6 sides, then no way in hell will Gray. People are getting the wrong idea about Gray being a messiah, because they've seen him perform well versus lower table sides or u21s in England.

 

Why didn't he show us his worth when he started versus Bournemouth?

Yeah Gray must be shit he didn't show he was the messiah in his 1 start against against Bournemouth . I'm sure you remember when Knocky was outperforming Mahrez week in week out too - I'm guessing you've followed his career since he was in France.  Mahrez was world class for 1 season but he's had far more games where he's shown little than where he's shown something so why you'd expect a young kid like Gray to perform miracles on his 1 start in the prem amazes me.

 

As for Love2spooge comment about Mahrez being the catalyst for our whole game changing against Leeds, I'd suggest that the Leeds goal was the catalyst. From that moment we were all over Leeds which was a good half an hour before Mahrez was even introduced.

 

Mahrez is a good skillful player but he hasn't shown more than an odd flash of world class in the last 18 months - which is why no-one other than Roma wanted to buy him and even they didn't want him that much. We had offers for Gray that were higher than any other English club offered for Mahrez in the summer.

[Redouane]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

Yeah Gray must be shit he didn't show he was the messiah in his 1 start against against Bournemouth . I'm sure you remember when Knocky was outperforming Mahrez week in week out too - I'm guessing you've followed his career since he was in France.  Mahrez was world class for 1 season but he's had far more games where he's shown little than where he's shown something so why you'd expect a young kid like Gray to perform miracles on his 1 start in the prem amazes me.

 

As for Love2spooge comment about Mahrez being the catalyst for our whole game changing against Leeds, I'd suggest that the Leeds goal was the catalyst. From that moment we were all over Leeds which was a good half an hour before Mahrez was even introduced.

 

Mahrez is a good skillful player but he hasn't shown more than an odd flash of world class in the last 18 months - which is why no-one other than Roma wanted to buy him and even they didn't want him that much. We had offers for Gray that were higher than any other English club offered for Mahrez in the summer.

Maybe because English clubs knew Leicester wouldn't budge for anything less than 50 million? 

[the fox]

most of the time, convos about riyad get toxic for some reason
no he didn't disappear for 18 months, he actually performed in the champions league! 4 goals and 2 assists were very important to that champions league run.

you usually spot the people who have a grudge against him after every game. when he plays bad he is sulking, and when he preformace, he is playing for a move pick aside whu won't you!

 

it's ok for simpson to not overlap, but it's a travesty when riyad isn't excellent at defending. double standard, that's what it is.

 

to this day, i still can't get my mind around how good he was as a pretty much a RWB in that 4-4-2. 17 goals and 11 assists! game winning performances and decisive goals away.

 

if he gets his move and plays for a possession based side with an overlapping RB, you will see his true ability. i remember that mane had some question marks regarding his "consistency" until he went to liverpool. is that a coincidence or just better players around him!

 

technically, he is head and shoulders above every city player. he is an arabian horse being asked to do a dray horse's job. just watching pool and the way they give salah the ball in empty space against the fullbacks compared to riyad. night and day!

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, the fox said:

most of the time, convos about riyad get toxic for some reason
no he didn't disappear for 18 months, he actually performed in the champions league! 4 goals and 2 assists were very important to that champions league run.

you usually spot the people who have a grudge against him after every game. when he plays bad he is sulking, and when he preformace, he is playing for a move pick aside whu won't you!

 

it's ok for simpson to not overlap, but it's a travesty when riyad isn't excellent at defending. double standard, that's what it is.

 

to this day, i still can't get my mind around how good he was as a pretty much a RWB in that 4-4-2. 17 goals and 11 assists! game winning performances and decisive goals away.

 

if he gets his move and plays for a possession based side with an overlapping RB, you will see his true ability. i remember that mane had some question marks regarding his "consistency" until he went to liverpool. is that a coincidence or just better players around him!

 

technically, he is head and shoulders above every city player. he is an arabian horse being asked to do a dray horse's job. just watching pool and the way they give salah the ball in empty space against the fullbacks compared to riyad. night and day!

I like the way that Mahrez fanboys (and then unlikely to have even seen him play in France) call out anyone who critisizes him. I'm guessing that you didn't follow us before 2015 so haven't quite got the understanding of my comparison of a 21 year old Gray and a 21 year old Mahrez or of Leicester City football club.

 

If he was so good as a RWB then I wish we'd dump Simpson and go back to that. 

 

If he gets his move, I personally hope his career fizzles out and he ends up playing for Coventry.

 

Anyone who thinks they're too good for Leicester: player or supporter can do one for all I care. I'm Leicester through and through.

 

Mahrez was magic in our title winning season and he should be thanking Walsh/Pearson/Shakey/Ranieri/lots of other City players and coaches for that. He was a skinny runt with potential when he arrived here. I was disappointed in his attitude last season and even more so with his attitude in the off season. He should be outperforming the likes of Couthino week in week out not rivalling a Derby County reserve and needing his fanboys to talk up a substitute appearance against championship Leeds.

 

 

[Loves2spooge]

dude I don't care about who was better than who at a certain age , Gray being better than Mahrez at his age doesn't mean gray will evolve the same way Mahrez or any other player will 

Some players start of good but then decline in quality 

others start bad then rise to become legends 

it doesn't matter where you start , or at what age you're considered a good player 

 

if less , I'd consider mahrez on an even whole other level than gray because he started from the absolute Bottom of an inferior league 

[the fox]

17 minutes ago, FIF said:

I like the way that Mahrez fanboys (and then unlikely to have even seen him play in France) call out anyone who critisizes him. I'm guessing that you didn't follow us before 2015 so haven't quite got the understanding of my comparison of a 21 year old Gray and a 21 year old Mahrez or of Leicester City football club.

 

If he was so good as a RWB then I wish we'd dump Simpson and go back to that. 

 

If he gets his move, I personally hope his career fizzles out and he ends up playing for Coventry.

 

Anyone who thinks they're too good for Leicester: player or supporter can do one for all I care. I'm Leicester through and through.

 

Mahrez was magic in our title winning season and he should be thanking Walsh/Pearson/Shakey/Ranieri/lots of other City players and coaches for that. He was a skinny runt with potential when he arrived here. I was disappointed in his attitude last season and even more so with his attitude in the off season. He should be outperforming the likes of Couthino week in week out not rivalling a Derby County reserve and needing his fanboys to talk up a substitute appearance against championship Leeds.

 

 

for all he is done for the club, is this how you feel about him. petty and bitter!

[DelBoy73]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

The instant Mahrez stepped onto the pitch for the last 18 months rarely has anything changed other than our defence become weaker. For the last 18 months he has shown himself to be a one season wonder unless you're saying he just couldn't be bothered for us

If he was a so called one season wonder-kid fraud the other managers wouldn't bother setting-up their teams to double/triple on him until now, but i guess you know better than them.

 

 

[AKCJ]

7 hours ago, Kilworthfox said:

Good player but an obvious link, probably lazy journalism, would be like suggesting Jean Michel Seri....

Pretty sure Barca were interested for 40m in the summer.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, the fox said:

for all he is done for the club, is this how you feel about him. petty and bitter!

It's a funny expression isn't it?

 

The club has been around for a long time and hopefully will be around for a lot longer. I've been following the club for over half a century. In that time do I really consider that Mahrez has done "a lot" for my club?

 

He was a crucial and fantastic part of winning the prem title. For one season he was one of the greatest players I've seen in a Leicester shirt. but if I'm honest there are many other players over the last 50 years that have done ,imo, more for the club. He hasn't done much since the title win and now he wants to leave. When Lineker left for "greater" things I didn't like him either and couldn't have cared whether he was a success or not - and he was a Leicester lad.

 

I don't believe in Karma but another funny expression is "karma's a bitch" and I'd be quite happy for karma to shit on anyone that runs out on my team when they are wanted by the supporters. Damn I even laughed when that striker turned us down as a small club in favour of some German outfit and then got injured and missed the year whilst we went on to win the prem.

 

You're either Leicester or you're not. Player or supporter. What are you? 

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

I'm not French Algerian. I see that Gray is a better player at 21 than Mahrez was at 21. I see the potential Gray has but more importantly as a Leicester fan I expect Gray to be at Leicester next season. Until Mahrez leaves I'll support him whenever he plays for us, once he's gone, I'll not support him as much as a Leicester player - maybe you will be here then and maybe you won't, if you are you can tell me what you think to our new creative skill filled midfielder.

But that's so irrelevant.

 

Mahrez is simply far better than Gray and it's likely that Gray will never be as good as Mahrez currently is.

[winteriscoming]

Mahrez when he can be bothered is our most creative player. Although gray has potential I still think he has a way to go. Grays final ball alot of the time is questionable aswell as his postioning at times. I don't think gray is a natural replacement for when / if mahrez leaves. I think we will realise what a loss mahrez is when he does go. Clearly gray has something with the interest in him, I just hope puel develops and gets the best out of him. 

[AyewJoking]

So much for new manager, new ideas.

 

Could be back up for musa whom we are heavily reliant.

 

If a has been who isn't wanted at his current club is top of piles (auto correct) shopping list, there may be trouble ahead.

 

Bìtchwhingemoan

[Old Fox]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

I like the way that Mahrez fanboys (and then unlikely to have even seen him play in France) call out anyone who critisizes him. I'm guessing that you didn't follow us before 2015 so haven't quite got the understanding of my comparison of a 21 year old Gray and a 21 year old Mahrez or of Leicester City football club.

 

If he was so good as a RWB then I wish we'd dump Simpson and go back to that. 

 

If he gets his move, I personally hope his career fizzles out and he ends up playing for Coventry.

 

Anyone who thinks they're too good for Leicester: player or supporter can do one for all I care. I'm Leicester through and through.

 

Mahrez was magic in our title winning season and he should be thanking Walsh/Pearson/Shakey/Ranieri/lots of other City players and coaches for that. He was a skinny runt with potential when he arrived here. I was disappointed in his attitude last season and even more so with his attitude in the off season. He should be outperforming the likes of Couthino week in week out not rivalling a Derby County reserve and needing his fanboys to talk up a substitute appearance against championship Leeds.

 

 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but to suggest that Riyad is the past and nothing more than a flash in the pan shows a complete lack of footballing knowledge.

 

I have been supporting the club a lot longer than 2015 and am clear that with over 40 years of watching the boys in blue that he is THE most gifted player I have seen. I include a lot of fantastic players since the mid-70's and he has extraordinary qualities that we will be unlikely to see again without spending an absolute fortune and Gray is nowhere near his quality.

 

Riyad is guilty of being badly led, his agent is not the smartest and has had his head badly turned. He has improved tremendously since we signed him due to great coaching, a stage to play but also due to his own hard work. We LCFC gave him this platform which he is grateful for but also we have done incredibly well out of him. A 26 year old that believes he could play for Barcelona (Agent told him this - fact)will have his head turned and clearly he regretted signing a new deal at the end of 15/16 which undoubtedly led to under performances last season which he is only now coming through as he matures and realises he needs to knuckle down.

 

Will he go in January - possibly but fans like you that make out he is just an ordinary player are deluded. He is every bit as irreplaceable as Ngolo is and we will never see the like again. 

 

If I was the owners I would continue to try and persuade him to stay with us whilst we grow and build the club because we should want to move heaven and earth to retain him - he should be playing Champions League football at his peak and I think it should be LCFC that tries to show the same ambition but there are clubs that he or any of us would find it hard to turn down as we look miles away from playing in the CL at the moment.

 

We all care for LCFC and no one player is bigger than the club Lineker, Macdonald, McAllister, Kante to name but a few over the years that I have been gutted to see us lose but Riyad will always have a special place and whilst he is here we should be enjoying the privilege of watching him.

[Redouane]

2 hours ago, FIF said:

I like the way that Mahrez fanboys (and then unlikely to have even seen him play in France) call out anyone who critisizes him. I'm guessing that you didn't follow us before 2015 so haven't quite got the understanding of my comparison of a 21 year old Gray and a 21 year old Mahrez or of Leicester City football club.

 

If he was so good as a RWB then I wish we'd dump Simpson and go back to that. 

 

If he gets his move, I personally hope his career fizzles out and he ends up playing for Coventry.

 

Anyone who thinks they're too good for Leicester: player or supporter can do one for all I care. I'm Leicester through and through.

 

Mahrez was magic in our title winning season and he should be thanking Walsh/Pearson/Shakey/Ranieri/lots of other City players and coaches for that. He was a skinny runt with potential when he arrived here. I was disappointed in his attitude last season and even more so with his attitude in the off season. He should be outperforming the likes of Couthino week in week out not rivalling a Derby County reserve and needing his fanboys to talk up a substitute appearance against championship Leeds.

 

 

Congrats you're the most hardcore LCFC fan. (I don't think that's a good thing ) 

[sm1]

Jeez not another Mahrez thread. We've got about a 100 of them here under different titles.

[norwichfox]

6 minutes ago, sm1 said:

Jeez not another Mahrez thread. We've got about a 100 of them here under different titles.

Your absolutely right....should Nige come back?