Girl, two, recovered from car in river at Cardigan dies

[stripeyfox]

 

 

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A child has died after being recovered from a car found in a river after a woman said her vehicle had been taken with her daughter inside.

Kiara Moore, two, died at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff after being rescued from the River Teifi in Cardigan, Ceredigion, on Monday.

A woman had earlier reported to police that her car had been taken with her child still in the back.

Dyfed-Powys Police is investigating.

• Child rescued from car in river

The force said it had received a call about a missing vehicle at 15:30 GMT and a silver Mini was found in the river at about 17:10.

A lane off the Strand behind the Angel Hotel remained closed off on Tuesday Social media posts showed a large police presence in Cardigan near the castle on Monday afternoon  was no police activity on the river early on Tuesday morning

In a tweet in the early hours of Tuesday morning, Dyfed-Powys Police said: "Sadly, we confirm that Kiara Moore, aged 2 (27/3/15) was pronounced dead at the UHW, Cardiff last night, having being recovered from a car in the River Teifi, Cardigan yesterday afternoon (19th March 2018). Kiara's family is being supported by specialist officers."

Kiara would have celebrated her third birthday next Tuesday.

Her father Jet Moore said in a Facebook post: "Thank you all for your help this evening. A mega thank you the officers who jumped in the river and the rest of the emergency services for all they did. Unfortunately Kiara had an amazing but short life."

Dozens of people posted messages of condolence on Facebook to Mr Moore and Kim Rowlands, Kiara's mother.

The couple run an outdoor pursuits business, Adventure Beyond, which has a booking office at the old scout hall near the river, next to where the car was last seen.

Kiara's death was described as "an utter tragedy".

Noel Lewis, who runs a car repair business next to the slipway from which Kiara went missing, said: "Kiara was the most wonderful little girl.

"She was always playing out here with her little dog.

"Her parents run an outdoor adventure business the other side of the slipway.

"I'd often see them taking Kiara out on the river in a canoe. She always had a life jacket on when she was in the canoe with them.

"They're a lovely family, always smiling and having fun together."

Officers appealed for witnesses who may have seen the vehicle enter the river between 15:30 and 16:50 GMT to contact them.

At present there is no information about who may have been in charge of the car before it went into the river.

The police had said they had first received a call "as to whereabouts of a silver Mini" which had been seen last near the old Scout Hall, near the river, at about 15:30 GMT on Monday.

At the height of the search there were 30 emergency services personnel from police, fire and coastguard units in Cardigan.

A search of the river continued into the evening after Kiara was found.

[stripeyfox]

Something really does not stack up about this story. First and foremost, it is an absolute tragedy that a two year old girl has drowned. But the story about the car being stolen really doesn't add up....

 

 

 

 

[Strokes]

5 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

Something really does not stack up about this story. First and foremost, it is an absolute tragedy that a two year old girl has drowned. But the story about the car being stolen really doesn't add up....

 

 

 

 

It’s seems an odd story with gaps for sure, what an awful tragedy for that little girl though.

[stripeyfox]

Apparently, the father has now confirmed the vehicle wasn't "stolen". The child was in the car whilst they nipped to get something from the office and when they returned the car was gone, so they thought it was stolen, but it appears that it had in fact rolled down the slipway into the river, where it was discovered an hour later.

 

Truly appalling tragedy.

 

 

[Bellend Sebastian]

6 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

Apparently, the father has now confirmed the vehicle wasn't "stolen". The child was in the car whilst they nipped to get something from the office and when they returned the car was gone, so they thought it was stolen, but it appears that it had in fact rolled down the slipway into the river, where it was discovered an hour later.

 

Truly appalling tragedy.

 

 

Oh Christ.

 

People (including children) die in accidents all the time but there's something about being trapped underwater that freaks me out especially.

 

Poor little mite, poor family

[stripeyfox]

5 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Oh Christ.

 

People (including children) die in accidents all the time but there's something about being trapped underwater that freaks me out especially.

 

Poor little mite, poor family

I know, it is terrible to even contemplate the horror of that situation. 

 

It's a small error of judgement, or mistake maybe - but what devastating consequences.

 

 

 

[Ronish Baxter]

Even if the car is stolen, how come the child is inside the car? There is definitely something fishy in this case and unless the police interrogates the parents, things are not going to clear up. RIP little girl and the angels in heaven will take care of you.

[stripeyfox]

Just now, Ronish Baxter said:

Even if the car is stolen, how come the child is inside the car? There is definitely something fishy in this case and unless the police interrogates the parents, things are not going to clear up. RIP little girl and the angels in heaven will take care of you.

 

I've left my kids in the car before for a few minutes (if they were napping for example or whilst I take the shopping into the house, or take the trolley back at the supermarket ).

 

Now the red herring of the car theft appears to have been cleared up it is simply a tragic accident it seems. You can "judge" the parents for leaving her in the car, but I've done the same and nearly everyone I know with kids has done so too at some point I'd wager.

 

[Bellend Sebastian]

We don't know that this is what's happened, but when parking up, everyone does leave their car in gear, yes?

 

I always have done, but after my friend's car rolled down a big hill, mercifully in the dead of night when nobody was about, after the handbrake either disengaged or the cable broke, I've been especially careful

[yorkie1999]

47 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

 

I've left my kids in the car before for a few minutes (if they were napping for example or whilst I take the shopping into the house, or take the trolley back at the supermarket ).

 

Now the red herring of the car theft appears to have been cleared up it is simply a tragic accident it seems. You can "judge" the parents for leaving her in the car, but I've done the same and nearly everyone I know with kids has done so too at some point I'd wager.

 

But surely not on a slipway into a river.

[EastAnglianFox]

So very very sad, cannot even begin to imagine how hysterical and frightened that little girl would have been in the last couple of minutes of her life.

 

As mentioned above, the thought of being trapped underwater has always sent shivers down my spine.

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39 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

We don't know that this is what's happened, but when parking up, everyone does leave their car in gear, yes?

 

I always have done, but after my friend's car rolled down a big hill, mercifully in the dead of night when nobody was about, after the handbrake either disengaged or the cable broke, I've been especially careful

Yep, I always leave a car in gear. Years ago a car across the street from me decided to roll out of its driveway overnight, roll down a slope and across my garden. Luckily the slope of my garden took the car away from my house and into the field next door. He had the handbrake checked out and found it was fine so the idiot obviously didn't put his handbrake on fully and left it in neutral.

[stripeyfox]

5 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

But surely not on a slipway into a river.

 

No, true. I think, as @Bellend Sebastian said, if parking on a hill I always leave it in gear BUT you know how it is when you're busy and rushing around (I'm trying to be charitable here), it's easy to make a mistake, a lapse of judgement. Usually there are no devastating consequences - "look, I got home and discovered I'd left the door unlocked but I didn't get burgled or the tumble drier on but my house didn't burn down- or maybe I left the stairgate open but my toddler didn't fall down the stairs"

 

Sometimes, for some of us though, a slight lapse in concentration or judgement is fatal

 

 

[yorkie1999]

Just now, stripeyfox said:

 

No, true. I think, as @Bellend Sebastian said, if parking on a hill I always leave it in gear BUT you know how it is when you're busy and rushing around (I'm trying to be charitable here), it's easy to make a mistake, a lapse of judgement. Usually there are no devastating consequences - "look, I got home and discovered I'd left the door unlocked but I didn't get burgled or the tumble drier on but my house didn't burn down- or maybe I left the stairgate open but my toddler didn't fall down the stairs"

 

Sometimes, for some of us though, a slight lapse in concentration or judgement is fatal

 

 

Don't get me wrong, i'm not finger pointing or anything and obviously this is a tragic accident, but leaving a car on a slipway into a river with a baby in the back must be one of the dumbest things ever. The parents must be inconsolable.

[Strokes]

I don’t like to pass judgement but you should never leave a child alone in car though. It’s an accident waiting to happen, poor little kid.

[Fox92]

Something doesn't add up and it's hard to comment as I don't have children but I'd never leave a child alone in a car. 

 

Poor kid. Must have been awful. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

As the parent of a 2 year old, I can quite see why someone wouldn't want to go through the complex logistical operation of getting one in and out of a car if it was literally for a few moments.

 

We all perceive danger differently, don't we? I'm pretty scared of water generally, so I'm absolutely paranoid when the kids are near it, but those that live and work by and in it are bound to be more relaxed about it. They may have done something that they've done a hundred times before - it's like anything you do without any repercussions, you eventually become blase about it, don't you?

[Finnegan]

18 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Something doesn't add up and it's hard to comment as I don't have children but I'd never leave a child alone in a car. 

 

Poor kid. Must have been awful. 

 

Not sure what "doesn't add up", they've nipped quickly inside thinking nothing would happen and been massively unlucky. 

 

It's hideous because they'll know they're technically to blame but let's be honest, it could happen to all but the most neurotic and cautious of us. 

 

Every day, we all take 0.001% risks, including with our loved ones. 

 

They just appear to have fallen in to that fraction of a percent. The inevitable backlash is going to be be thousands of keyboard warriors who of course would never be so foolish taking to social media to tell them they're shit parents and no doubt they'll be ****ing gutted. 

 

Can't imagine how shit this must be. 

[Drew Peacock]

1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

We don't know that this is what's happened, but when parking up, everyone does leave their car in gear, yes?

 

I always have done, but after my friend's car rolled down a big hill, mercifully in the dead of night when nobody was about, after the handbrake either disengaged or the cable broke, I've been especially careful

I used to live on a steep hill so always did this when parking, out of habit. Until one fateful day shortly after I’d got married. I left the car in gear, as normal, but the handbrake off. The wife got in the car, started it up without pressing the clutch down, and demolished the front of the house and the car. Luckily no one was in front of the car at the time.

We agreed it was 80% her fault and 20% mine. Well I did anyway.

The consequences of accidents are varied I suppose. Car in gear or out of gear could result in a different accident scenario. Looking back now the parents in this case seem stupid if this is what happened.

But there but for the grace of God go I, I guess. Or fate if God doesn’t exist.

[Drew Peacock]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Not sure what "doesn't add up", they've nipped quickly inside thinking nothing would happen and been massively unlucky. 

 

It's hideous because they'll know they're technically to blame but let's be honest, it could happen to all but the most neurotic and cautious of us. 

 

Every day, we all take 0.001% risks, including with our loved ones. 

 

They just appear to have fallen in to that fraction of a percent. The inevitable backlash is going to be be thousands of keyboard warriors who of course would never be so foolish taking to social media to tell them they're shit parents and no doubt they'll be ****ing gutted. 

 

Can't imagine how shit this must be. 

Kind of what I was trying to say, but put much more eloquently here. The risks we take everyday especially. Normally they have no consequences.

[stripeyfox]

25 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Something doesn't add up and it's hard to comment as I don't have children but I'd never leave a child alone in a car. 

 

Poor kid. Must have been awful. 

I think the initial story refers to a "stolen" car with the child in the back. The father has since clarified things so it is much clearer now, although no less tragic.

 

[stripeyfox]

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Media captionTributes paid to two-year-old Kiara Moore

A child has died after being pulled from a car found in a river near her family's outdoor pursuits business.

Kiara Moore, two, was found in the River Teifi in Cardigan on Monday.

Her father said she had been left in the car while the driver got cash from the office.

When the driver returned, the car was missing and initially feared stolen. A large police search followed and the car was found in the water just under two hours later, with Kiara inside.

In a Facebook post, which has since been deleted, her father Jet Moore suggested Kiara's death was an accident after the car had rolled down a slipway into the river.

Her mother, Kim Rowlands, also posted on Facebook that her "beautiful baby girl" had died, adding: "Due to my own stupidity, I will have to live with the guilt for the rest of my life.

"Mummy loves you baby girl and I'm so sorry."

The post has also since been deleted.

Dyfed-Powys Police confirmed it was not looking for anyone else in connection with its investigation.

It had followed fears shortly after Kiara was discovered missing that the car had been stolen with her inside, after social media posts were made by her mother appealing for information.

Image captionA tribute from Kiara's nursery Cylch Meithrin Drefach Felindre

During the two-hour search, Dyfed-Powys Police appealed for sightings of the car and later confirmed it had been found in the river with Kiara inside.

She was pulled from the car by police officers and airlifted to hospital but later died.

The coroner has been informed of Kiara's death. The little girl would have celebrated her third birthday next Tuesday.

In the Facebook statement, her father wrote: "They got in the car to go home. Sat on bank card which snapped and needed money to get home etc.

"Went back to the office to get money from the desk and came back to no car.

"Looked in the river. No signs. So we thought she and the car had been taken."

He said police had found the car a while later and "went way beyond the call of duty jumping in and pulling her out".

"They tried to revive her for hours but unfortunately could not," he added.

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• Child rescued from car in river

Police said they first received a call "as to the whereabouts of a silver Mini" which had been last seen at the old Scout Hall, near the river, at about 15:30 GMT on Monday.

At the height of the search there were 30 emergency service personnel from police, fire and coastguard units in Cardigan.

A search of the river continued into the evening after Kiara was found.

Image copyrightWALES NEWS SERVICE Image captionThe slipway where the car was parked

In the early hours of Tuesday morning, Dyfed-Powys Police said Kiara had died and her family were being supported by specialist officers.

Mr Moore later posted on Facebook, saying: "Thank you all for your help this evening. A mega thank you the officers who jumped in the river and the rest of the emergency services for all they did.

"Unfortunately Kiara had an amazing but short life."

In a tribute to his daughter he wrote: "She was an incredible happy young girl who lived I hope a great adventurous fun life. And may have done more than most people.

"Been skiing twice and skied her self. Paddled the great glen Scotland. Paddles the Wye.

"Played on every beach we could. Had a loving family and made us all happy.

"She always wanted to be called RAR RAR which was our nickname for her. Love her so much."

Image copyright@IGLWY/TWITTER Image captionSocial media posts showed a large police presence in Cardigan near the castle on Monday afternoon

Dozens of people posted messages of condolence on Facebook to Mr Moore and Kiara's mother Kim Rowlands.

The couple run an outdoor pursuits business, Adventure Beyond, which has a booking office at the old Scout hall next to where the car was last seen.

Ola Kowlaow was passing by the scene when she said she saw a woman in distress.

"My son say 'mommy she's crying'," she said, adding she had asked what had happened.

"[The woman] said 'Someone's kidnapped my kids [sic], my daughter in the car."

Ms Kowlaow said she had checked but had seen nothing, before the woman had "just run".

Image captionKiara was 'the most wonderful little girl' said neighbouring business owner Noel Lewis

Kiara's death has been described by local people as "an utter tragedy".

Noel Lewis said of the little girl: "Kiara was the most wonderful little girl. She was always playing out here with her little dog.

"Her parents run an outdoor adventure business the other side of the slipway.

"I'd often see them taking Kiara out on the river in a canoe. She always had a life jacket on when she was in the canoe with them.

"They're a lovely family, always smiling and having fun together."

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Tragic outcome and sincerest condolences to the family.
Incredible bravery and selflessness shown by officers who entered the water and rescued the child.

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Dyfed-Powys Police's Deputy Chief Constable Darren Davies tweeted: "Tragic outcome and sincerest condolences to the family.

"Incredible bravery and selflessness shown by officers who entered the water and rescued the child."

Image captionThere were 30 emergency service personnel including police, fire and coastguard in Cardigan town during the search Image copyright@IGLWY/TWITTER Image captionCoastguard rescue teams and the RNLI searched the River Teifi

[FLAN]

I remember “forgetting”to take our new baby out of the car when we took some shopping in. Probably about 5 mins in a locked car but the panic of that was terrible when we realised she was outside. As someone else said the likelihood of an accident or tragedy is low but in this case with devastating consequences. I do agree you would tend to be a bit more wary parking on a slope into water but regardless these parents have the worse nightmare ever which is magnified by their own part in it

 

poor child and family 

[lgfualol]

What a ****ing nightmare

[stripeyfox]

26 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

What a ****ing nightmare

About sums it up. I'm really trying not to think about the child, stuck in the car in the water but it really is horrifying.