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We have to talk about corners!

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Guest WarehamFox
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We seem to concede from them (zonal marking?) but cant score from them, how many do we need? It's becoming a joke. What do they do on the training ground? Great game shame about the result. :@

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Amazing how England made Maguire such a threat from set pieces at the World Cup but we can't work out how to do it.

Guest WarehamFox
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2 minutes ago, Woodsey1727 said:

With Pearson, Raniari and Shakespeare we used man marking and didn't concede that many from corners now under Puel we have changed to zonal and keeps conceding 

And never scoring! :mad:

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8 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Fkin zonal marking I hate it. It doesn’t work.

Been working since puel took over, can’t think of the last one we conceaded other than today’s in a long time

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5 minutes ago, Woodsey1727 said:

With Pearson, Raniari and Shakespeare we used man marking and didn't concede that many from corners now under Puel we have changed to zonal and keeps conceding 

I thought in Ranieri's 2nd season we stopped being able to defend corners, didnt we concede about 3 in one half vs Man U?

 

Our corner defending all went to shit when Morgan was no longer allowed to pull shirts and wrestle people to the ground.

Guest WarehamFox
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2 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

I thought in Ranieri's 2nd season we stopped being able to defend corners, didnt we concede about 3 in one half vs Man U?

 

Our corner defending all went to shit when Morgan was no longer allowed to pull shirts and wrestle people to the ground.

And the great Huth!

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To be fair we've hardly conceded from corners all season. Yes we lack threat from our own, but I don't think defending corners is our issue. I'm more worried about our defending from long range shots and when players are dribbling at us 25-30 yards out.

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11 minutes ago, lanefox said:

Been working since puel took over, can’t think of the last one we conceaded other than today’s in a long time

U being serious? 

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Pereira at fault for Bennett's goal. Let him run past him while he ball-watched and left Maguire to mark 2 players. Pereira didn't get the block on him properly and Maguire was left standing against a guy with a running jump. Poor defending. 

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4 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

U being serious? 

Yes, we've barely conceded any since we switched things about. It's been mentioned on here countless times.

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Funny how if a team concedes using zonal marking then it's always the fault of the system. If they concede using man marking you don't start going on about how useless man marking is as a concept, you blame the individual defender. Why's it any different? 

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4 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Fkin zonal marking I hate it. It doesn’t work.

Yes it does...

 

We've conceded 5 set pieces this season, last season we conceded 16 and the year before 15. That's a very clear and undeniable improvement. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yes it does...

 

We've conceded 5 set pieces this season, last season we conceded 16 and the year before 15. That's a very clear and undeniable improvement. 

 

Yep, what’s weird though is that we scored quite a lot last season but haven’t really scored too many this.

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1 minute ago, Stadt said:

Yep, what’s weird though is that we scored quite a lot last season but haven’t really scored too many this.

Scored 19 in 16/17, 12 in 17/18 and scored 4 this season... the Mahrez factor perhaps? It's not like much else has changed other than perhaps the delivery?

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4 hours ago, Woodsey1727 said:

With Pearson, Raniari and Shakespeare we used man marking and didn't concede that many from corners now under Puel we have changed to zonal and keeps conceding 

Bollocks. There are now new rules for the corners preventing thug defending so the likes of Morgan can't do as they please anymore and we had this problem before Puel.

 

We conceded only 5 goals from set pieces this season. Last season 15.

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5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yes it does...

 

We've conceded 5 set pieces this season, last season we conceded 16 and the year before 15. That's a very clear and undeniable improvement. 

 

We’re shit at corners. Last season we were (playing zonal) I agree and we will be this year. Standing jump against running jump there’s only one winner. 

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Just now, funkyrobot said:

We’re shit at corners. Last season we were (playing zonal) I agree and we will be this year. Standing jump against running jump there’s only one winner. 

We're far better at corners than we were when just man marking, the stats show that. Now that might be a case of it's also because we bring extra men back. But it's undeniable that there has been a significant improvement in our defending of them since we've made those changes. 

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4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

We're far better at corners than we were when just man marking, the stats show that. Now that might be a case of it's also because we bring extra men back. But it's undeniable that there has been a significant improvement in our defending of them since we've made those changes. 

We man to manned it 15/16 and I think overall we did ok that season 

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Just now, funkyrobot said:

We man to manned it 15/16 and I think overall we did ok that season 

We conceded 10 in a whole season, so we're on track to concede less this season. If we had Huth, Wes and Fuchs 3 or 4 years younger we might not have been in the state we were defending them. But they aren't and we were. 

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23 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Scored 19 in 16/17, 12 in 17/18 and scored 4 this season... the Mahrez factor perhaps? It's not like much else has changed other than perhaps the delivery?

I don’t remember him assisting many tbh, maybe our previous routines aren’t as effective or we’re sounding less time on them. 

 

If anything we should be spending more time on them as we’re more likely to score from a corner than we are in open play in games like the Southampton one 

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