Vaping ban

[Daggers]

4 hours ago, Kopic said:

I don't actually want the massive cloud, that is what has stopped me from trying one for the past few years.

The beauty of it is that it’s customisable for whatever works for you. Tight draw, loose, big cloud, small - there’s such a variety of kit that you can always find something that works. Which is also an issue because now there is so much choice it can take a while.

 

if you know people who’ve already made the switch I’d suggest trying what they have first. Failing that, go talk to a vape shop or the stop smoking service (they’ve led the way in embracing vaping as a quit tool).

 

Jacvapour’s Vim is very affordable and will give a rightish draw with little cloud https://www.jacvapour.com/

[shailen_patel4]

5 hours ago, Izzy said:

You don’t have to have a massive cloud if you don’t one one.

 

I mix my own juice and I’m much more interested in getting the right blend of flavour, taste and exact throat hit. 

 

I couldn’t care less about the size of cloud produced and it wouldn’t bother me one bit if there wasn’t one at all tbh

What flavours you got atm?

[Izzy]

8 hours ago, shailen_patel4 said:

What flavours you got atm?

I started vaping 'Menthol Special Blend' five years ago......and I'm still vaping Menthol Special Blend now 

 

I've tried pretty much every other flavor over the years but always come back to Menthol. I like the taste as it's cool and refreshing and I've got the exact strength and flavor mix right now so can't see me changing 

[shailen_patel4]

10 hours ago, Izzy said:

I started vaping 'Menthol Special Blend' five years ago......and I'm still vaping Menthol Special Blend now 

 

I've tried pretty much every other flavor over the years but always come back to Menthol. I like the taste as it's cool and refreshing and I've got the exact strength and flavor mix right now so can't see me changing 

I’m trying wild berries atm will most likely move onto deserts soon

[Innovindil]

On 22/01/2019 at 20:47, Raw Dykes said:

I agree - I was turned off by all the terminology and jargon I found when researching vaping. I can tell you it doesn't have to be complicated at all, though.

 

I've got a little Justfog Minifit (well, two - I liked it so much I had to get a spare. Now I've got twice the battery life and twice the e liquid capacity, and I can carry around 2 different flavours). It's a great design - the size of a USB stick, just one button you press while inhaling, 3 lights that tell you how much battery is left, and it plugs into any USB socket for charging with a little lead. You just have to pour e liquid into it and make sure the battery's charged. That's all there is to it. The "Blu" e cig is pretty good as well. That doesn't even have a button - it senses you're inhaling and turns on.

 

You can mix your own stuff. Apparently, that's the cheapest option, and you can come up with new flavours that way, but you don't have to do it.

 

I also smoked roll ups, and I used to roll 20 or 30 at a time to save me doing it when I needed a smoke. That took me about half an hour a day. Vaping has saved me that particular pain in the arse on top of everything else. Thanks - I'd forgotten all about that. I'd say vaping is a lot less complicated than fiddly roll ups.

 

I go to Vape HQ. Been to 3 branches (Syston, Birstall and Swadlincote). The staff in each have been very knowledgable and helpful, and they let you try e liquids before you buy. I'd strongly recommend them. I also use a site called Club Vape (clubvape.co.uk) which I think is very good.

 

I'd say give it a go if you're a smoker, even if you don't intend to give up tobacco. You could always do both.

Sorry to quote such an old post, but quick question if you don't mind, I picked one of these up last week and for the first 2 days it was really good, now it's hissing and spitting liquid all over the place. A friend suggested I was using the wrong liquid (i picked up some cheap 3 for a tenner ones at the corner shop), mind telling me which liquid you use with yours please? Or any ideas what's wrong with it?

[Daggers]

On 22/01/2019 at 20:01, Costock_Fox said:

I can understand why places ban it because there isn’t much research around it’s impact

 

Public Health England

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-publishes-independent-expert-e-cigarettes-evidence-review

 

Royal College of Physicians

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/guidelines-policy/e-cigarettes-inquiry

 

Royal College of GPs

https://www.rcgp.org.uk/policy/rcgp-policy-areas/e-cigarettes-non-combustible-inhaled-tobacco-products.aspx

 

Cancer Research UK

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/awareness-and-prevention/e-cigarette-hub-information-for-health-professionals

 

Cochrane Review

https://uk.cochrane.org/news/conclusions-about-effects-electronic-cigarettes-remain-same

 

National Centre for Smoking Cessation Training

https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/news/vaping-news/2018-11-09_new-ncsct-leaflet.html

 

All Party Parliamentary Group for Vaping

https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/news/vaping-news/2018-11-20_workplace-vaping-appg-report-launch.html

 

The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists

 https://www.ranzcp.org/news-policy/policy-submissions-reports/document-library/e-cigarettes-and-vaporisers

 

I could go on. There’s something in the region of 200 research papers released pcm on this subject, the majority are junk but there’s at least double digits-worth of good stuff. The only people who claim there’s not enough known about it are those actively campaigning against vaping as a form of tobacco harm reduction for ideological or financial reasons.

 

Bans are enacted for reasons of ignorance, ineptitude or avarice - none with sound scientific justification.

[Costock_Fox]

8 minutes ago, Daggers said:

 

Public Health England

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-publishes-independent-expert-e-cigarettes-evidence-review

 

Royal College of Physicians

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/guidelines-policy/e-cigarettes-inquiry

 

Royal College of GPs

https://www.rcgp.org.uk/policy/rcgp-policy-areas/e-cigarettes-non-combustible-inhaled-tobacco-products.aspx

 

Cancer Research UK

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/awareness-and-prevention/e-cigarette-hub-information-for-health-professionals

 

Cochrane Review

https://uk.cochrane.org/news/conclusions-about-effects-electronic-cigarettes-remain-same

 

National Centre for Smoking Cessation Training

https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/news/vaping-news/2018-11-09_new-ncsct-leaflet.html

 

All Party Parliamentary Group for Vaping

https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/news/vaping-news/2018-11-20_workplace-vaping-appg-report-launch.html

 

The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists

 https://www.ranzcp.org/news-policy/policy-submissions-reports/document-library/e-cigarettes-and-vaporisers

 

I could go on. There’s something in the region of 200 research papers released pcm on this subject, the majority are junk but there’s at least double digits-worth of good stuff. The only people who claim there’s not enough known about it are those actively campaigning against vaping as a form of tobacco harm reduction for ideological or financial reasons.

 

Bans are enacted for reasons of ignorance, ineptitude or avarice - none with sound scientific justification.

Fair enough then, might start up.

[LukeyZade]

If just need the nic on non sub ohm  try 1pound eliquid.com   or try dripdropvapour. Cheap yes but drip drop much better.

[Raw Dykes]

13 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Sorry to quote such an old post, but quick question if you don't mind, I picked one of these up last week and for the first 2 days it was really good, now it's hissing and spitting liquid all over the place. A friend suggested I was using the wrong liquid (i picked up some cheap 3 for a tenner ones at the corner shop), mind telling me which liquid you use with yours please? Or any ideas what's wrong with it?

That's okay. No worries. I'm happy to help.

 

Bad luck! That's a shame. I don't know if you know, but you have to make sure the coil doesn't burn out. That can happen if you try to use it when the coil's dry. All you have to do to avoid it is to leave it alone for a few minutes for the coil to soak when you first fill a new pod with liquid, or, I guess, if you've left a pod empty for a while. 

 

Whether this is the problem or not, I'm not sure, but I am fairly certain it's the pod part that's to blame (the main part just powers the pod, which contains the coil), and the good news is that they are cheap - about £4. I got 3 for £10 on eBay. I'm sure they'll have them in Vape HQ. It's good to have a spare, anyway, as they do burn out eventually, no matter how careful you are with them.

 

I doubt the liquid is to blame, although some can apparently wear coils out quicker than others. I usually spend around £3-£5 on a 10ml bottle. Vape HQ's own brand (pure, I think it's called), Vampire Vape (Heisenberg is the tits), and things I find on clubvape.co.uk (edit: vapeclub.co.uk) (I recommend WFFL almond & caramel).

Edited 2 February 2019 by Raw Dykes
I fuched up.

[Daggers]

Do you mean vapeclub.co.uk?

[Raw Dykes]

17 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Do you mean vapeclub.co.uk?

That's the fella.

[Daggers]

9 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

That's the fella.

Thought it was odd I’d not heard of that one

[Raw Dykes]

4 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Thought it was odd I’d not heard of that one

Turns out I hadn't, either, and I invented the bloody thing.

[shailen_patel4]

14 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Sorry to quote such an old post, but quick question if you don't mind, I picked one of these up last week and for the first 2 days it was really good, now it's hissing and spitting liquid all over the place. A friend suggested I was using the wrong liquid (i picked up some cheap 3 for a tenner ones at the corner shop), mind telling me which liquid you use with yours please? Or any ideas what's wrong with it?

https://youtu.be/RdS1LjCIep4 his voice is annoying but hope this helps

[Raw Dykes]

14 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Sorry to quote such an old post, but quick question if you don't mind, I picked one of these up last week and for the first 2 days it was really good, now it's hissing and spitting liquid all over the place. A friend suggested I was using the wrong liquid (i picked up some cheap 3 for a tenner ones at the corner shop), mind telling me which liquid you use with yours please? Or any ideas what's wrong with it?

Just to add to my last reply - it's a good idea to avoid getting too low on liquid in the pod, as you risk burning the coil this way.

 

It might also help to only fill the pod about 80% max. Just something I read in the instructions.

 

I'm fairly certain a new pod (about £3 or £4. I did read a comment on a video where someone said you can even replace the coil itself, rather than the whole pod, so it maybe even cheaper than that, but probably more hassle than it's worth) will sort your problem out. Just be careful not to burn the coil out, if you weren't doing so already.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

It's good for cigarette smokers, but like the proverbial fag, I don't want the stench in my airspace.

[Raw Dykes]

1 hour ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

It's good for cigarette smokers, but like the proverbial fag, I don't want the stench in my airspace.

Oh, yeah. That famous old proverb.

[Mike Oxlong]

On 30/01/2019 at 22:06, Daggers said:

The beauty of it is that it’s customisable for whatever works for you. Tight draw, loose, big cloud, small - there’s such a variety of kit that you can always find something that works. Which is also an issue because now there is so much choice it can take a while.

 

if you know people who’ve already made the switch I’d suggest trying what they have first. Failing that, go talk to a vape shop or the stop smoking service (they’ve led the way in embracing vaping as a quit tool).

 

Jacvapour’s Vim is very affordable and will give a rightish draw with little cloud https://www.jacvapour.com/

Is there any discernible difference to the user experience by vaping with big cloud or little cloud? 

 

I don’t want to shit on anyone’s party but I’d rather not breathe in someone else’s vape. 

[Daggers]

18 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Is there any discernible difference to the user experience by vaping with big cloud or little cloud? 

 

I don’t want to shit on anyone’s party but I’d rather not breathe in someone else’s vape. 

Yep, short answer. 

 

Cloud size relates to air flow, coil type, coil size, juice type and power setting. 

 

Smaller clouds tend to come from builds set up for mouth-to-lung vaping. This generally means higher nic/salt nic juices with higher ohm coils, lower power settings and a restricted airflow. 

 

Holding your breath for a tiny bit will reduce vapour down to almost nothing. 

[desertfox2]

On 22/01/2019 at 02:22, shailen_patel4 said:

I don’t know how many users smoke on here, but as a smoker who’s smoked for 3 years (I’m 19) I know it’s not long but i want to kick the habit and use vapes instead before it’s too late. I understand why it’s a good idea to ban vapes as kids who have never smoked before use it which causes nicotine addiction but I wanna know your thoughts on it.

On day 5 almost 6 of not smoking after a pack to a pack and a half a day for 17 years. It's the hardest thing to give up, absolutely hellish. Whatever works for you do it and earlier the better, pretty sure I've done permanent damage and still youngish (early 30s) not good hopefully lungs can heal themselves over time... Vaping didn't really work for me but that's a personal preference. Realized I'm a complete smoking addict so stopping totally was the only solution. Patches are a real God send. On the top dose one but honestly don't even feel like a smoke which never seemed possible. Need to still want to quit but they work miracles. Couple weeks then will try and go down a dose. 

 

Good luck which ever route you choose.

 

Vaping in all likelihood is probably far better than smoking. Still early days from a medical standpoint but pretty much everyone that I've spoken to that has gone from ciggies to Vaping sing it's praises. Doing neither would no doubt be better but Vaping is likely saving a lot of lives. I get that painting it as healthy is not a good thing if it gets people from not smoking to Vaping but as a means of getting people off the death sticks it seems to be very good. 

Edited 3 February 2019 by desertfox2
Vape

[shailen_patel4]

58 minutes ago, desertfox2 said:

On day 5 almost 6 of not smoking after a pack to a pack and a half a day for 17 years. It's the hardest thing to give up, absolutely hellish. Whatever works for you do it and earlier the better, pretty sure I've done permanent damage and still youngish (early 30s) not good hopefully lungs can heal themselves over time... Vaping didn't really work for me but that's a personal preference. Realized I'm a complete smoking addict so stopping totally was the only solution. Patches are a real God send. On the top dose one but honestly don't even feel like a smoke which never seemed possible. Need to still want to quit but they work miracles. Couple weeks then will try and go down a dose. 

 

Good luck which ever route you choose.

 

Vaping in all likelihood is probably far better than smoking. Still early days from a medical standpoint but pretty much everyone that I've spoken to that has gone from ciggies to Vaping sing it's praises. Doing neither would no doubt be better but Vaping is likely saving a lot of lives. I get that painting it as healthy is not a good thing if it gets people from not smoking to Vaping but as a means of getting people off the death sticks it seems to be very good. 

Cheers mate, I’ve got a vape now I haven’t touched a cigarette in a week now 

[desertfox2]

5 minutes ago, shailen_patel4 said:

Cheers mate, I’ve got a vape now I haven’t touched a cigarette in a week now 

Well done. Glad that Vaping is working for you. A week is good going. One thing that I found amazing was how much the mind can trick us. Until quitting I couldn't imagine not smoking and my brain was tricking me into thinking that way if that makes sense. 2 nights running my nose has started bleeding randomly for a long time 30 odd mins a time cigs are terrible. Tar and carbon monoxide are evil, nicotine itself is probably not so bad guess it's the method of delivery that's key. Lack of sleep is annoying though, need to buy some chamomile tea. Should do the trick. Anyway all good. 

[shailen_patel4]

6 minutes ago, desertfox2 said:

Well done. Glad that Vaping is working for you. A week is good going. One thing that I found amazing was how much the mind can trick us. Until quitting I couldn't imagine not smoking and my brain was tricking me into thinking that way if that makes sense. 2 nights running my nose has started bleeding randomly for a long time 30 odd mins a time cigs are terrible. Tar and carbon monoxide are evil, nicotine itself is probably not so bad guess it's the method of delivery that's key. Lack of sleep is annoying though, need to buy some chamomile tea. Should do the trick. Anyway all good. 

Yeah it’s all the chemicals they put in cigarettes which makes them bad it’s not the nicotine really 

[Bunyip]

Does anyone know if it's banned in the ground? only I had this Vape Ape blowing toffee caramel clouds of stink all over the place at today's game. Can he be stopped if reported?

[Bunyip]

15 minutes ago, shailen_patel4 said:

Yeah it’s all the chemicals they put in cigarettes which makes them bad it’s not the nicotine really 

Chewing Tobacco gave millions mouth Cancer over the years no chemicals in that.